Mishael Posted August 6, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/04/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 6, 2018 I feel so sorry for my Iraqi christian brothers to once again be forced to put up with Islamic barbarism. There should be a petition for Christians all across the country to buy the property from the Muslims and return it to its original function as a Church. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted August 6, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,016 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,291 Content Per Day: 1.79 Reputation: 16,355 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted August 6, 2018 I think the problem lies in that when a church is converted into a mosque....it is seen as a victory or putting down of our Christian faith by devout Muslims. That is the part I was surprised to learn in this thread....and I'm so sorry to hear it. How did Michigan end up with so many Muslims? Just curious... I live near a mosque that used to be a funeral home. Also, I have dear friends that were raised as Muslims but they don't attend mosque and the ladies don't wear head scarves either. They also prefer our Christian company....they don't like going out with strict Muslims. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 6, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,064 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,816 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Mishael said: I feel so sorry for my Iraqi christian brothers to once again be forced to put up with Islamic barbarism. There should be a petition for Christians all across the country to buy the property from the Muslims and return it to its original function as a Church. it would not be for sale at any price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 47 minutes ago, Debp said: I think the problem lies in that when a church is converted into a mosque....it is seen as a victory or putting down of our Christian faith by devout Muslims. That is the part I was surprised to learn in this thread....and I'm so sorry to hear it. That is precisely how it is seen. In fact, that is how mosques are seen whenever they are built. After 9/11, the Muslims wanted to built a mosque near Ground Zero it was going to be a huge mosque and it was going to be named "the Cordova mosque" after the name of a city in Spain that that the Muslims conquered. 9/11 is viewed in Muslim circles as victory over the US. And they wanted a mosque with name that conveyed that sentiment. I was glad that the deal fell through they were not allowed to build mosque on such sacred American soil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishael Posted August 8, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/04/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 8, 2018 On 8/6/2018 at 10:29 PM, other one said: it would not be for sale at any price. Then Christina should make a huge outrage at this insult to our faith and to all persecuted Christians and martyrs in the Middle East. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 9, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,064 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,816 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 9, 2018 5 hours ago, Mishael said: Then Christina should make a huge outrage at this insult to our faith and to all persecuted Christians and martyrs in the Middle East. Liberals call you a racist pig when you do that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mishael Posted August 9, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 336 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/04/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 9, 2018 5 hours ago, other one said: Liberals call you a racist pig when you do that... Doesn’t matter, Islam isn’t a race it’s a religion composed of numerous different ethnic groups and races. Criticizing a religiom, its teachings, or its practices for logical reasons doesn’t equal racism. I’m not saying that Muslims shouldn’t be allowed to build mosques I’m saying they shouldn’t be allowed to convert that Church into a Mosque by the Christian community. Not to mention the fight it would cause those poor Iraqi Christians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Badjao33 said: I'm a bit surprised for the total disregard for religious liberty by some. No one is disregarding religious liberty. Quote Federal law protects the right of all faith communities to build places of worship and to purchase properties without discrimination. Given the nature of Islam and Sharia, churches should not sell property to Muslims for purposes of building a mosque. If they want to open a 7/11, sure. But Christians should sell church properties to other churches within mainstream Christian churches. Quote The Church is not a building, it's the body of believers. Once the congregation leaves a building, it is nothing but an empty shell and can be converted into whatever the new owner desires as long as it is in line with zoning laws. We should not enable Islam to flourish in America. If they want to buy property adjacent to church property, they are free to do so. But Christians should not enable a bloodthirsty rape culture like Islam by selling them a church building. Quote Muslims purchasing an existing church building makes good sense because it doesn't face any zoning challenges since it was previously occupied by a religious group. That is their problem not ours. We should favor letting other churches not face those zoning problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, Badjao33 said: If you were selling your house and a Muslim family offered to buy it, would you sell it to them? Yes, because it is not a church building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 9, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,064 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,816 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Mishael said: Doesn’t matter, Islam isn’t a race it’s a religion composed of numerous different ethnic groups and races. Criticizing a religiom, its teachings, or its practices for logical reasons doesn’t equal racism. I’m not saying that Muslims shouldn’t be allowed to build mosques I’m saying they shouldn’t be allowed to convert that Church into a Mosque by the Christian community. Not to mention the fight it would cause those poor Iraqi Christians. with what we already know about what goes on inside the mosques and who owns them, they should not be allowed to build them at all... BTW Liberals call many things racist that doesn't have anything to do with race, this is just one example as you state. Edited August 9, 2018 by other one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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