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Faith is usually thought of as  something we must have when there is no way to understand something. That is actually a dangerous trap to fall into. It leads people to believe in things that they really don't understand. "Just take it by faith," is too often used as a reply to someone who asks a question about something they don't understand. It is a way to get people to believe in any idea someone can dream up, whether it makes sense or not. The trinity is a perfect example. Even the staunchest of trinitarians readily admit it can't be explained or understood. Instead we are told to take it by faith. That is the only way it can continue to be taken as doctrine.

People may say they have faith in something they don't understand, but it is just words. One must know something to be trustworthy before you can have any genuine faith in it.

People have no trouble lending money to a friend as long as they know that friend to be reliable and trustworthy. Because they know their friend to be reliable, they have faith they will get re-payed. But how about a stranger or someone you really don't know that well? Because you don't know them you are not likely to have the faith they will repay the loan. So faith is really a matter of knowing something in a intimate way, far from accepting anything blindly.

In the scriptures faith is used to indicate trust and confidence, not a blind acceptance.

Rom 10:17,

So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

We gain faith in God in direct proportion to how much we know about Him. He reveals Himself to us via the scriptures, so the more we know the scriptures the more faith we can have in God. Faith is a result of learning, not blindly accepting.

 

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43 minutes ago, Yowm said:

...and via trials He shows Himself strong in our weakness.

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Yep!

2Cor 12:9,

And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

Thanks.

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1 hour ago, rrobs said:

Faith is usually thought of as  something we must have when there is no way to understand something. That is actually a dangerous trap to fall into. It leads people to believe in things that they really don't understand. "Just take it by faith," is too often used as a reply to someone who asks a question about something they don't understand. It is a way to get people to believe in any idea someone can dream up, whether it makes sense or not. The trinity is a perfect example. Even the staunchest of trinitarians readily admit it can't be explained or understood. Instead we are told to take it by faith. That is the only way it can continue to be taken as doctrine.

People may say they have faith in something they don't understand, but it is just words. One must know something to be trustworthy before you can have any genuine faith in it.

People have no trouble lending money to a friend as long as they know that friend to be reliable and trustworthy. Because they know their friend to be reliable, they have faith they will get re-payed. But how about a stranger or someone you really don't know that well? Because you don't know them you are not likely to have the faith they will repay the loan. So faith is really a matter of knowing something in a intimate way, far from accepting anything blindly.

In the scriptures faith is used to indicate trust and confidence, not a blind acceptance.

Rom 10:17,

So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

We gain faith in God in direct proportion to how much we know about Him. He reveals Himself to us via the scriptures, so the more we know the scriptures the more faith we can have in God. Faith is a result of learning, not blindly accepting.

 

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Hebrews 11:1-3 New King James Version (NKJV)

By Faith We Understand

11 Now faith is the [a]substance of things hoped for, the [b]evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good testimony.

By faith we understand that the [c]worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.

Cheers!!! :)

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21 hours ago, RockyMidnight said:

Welcome to Worthy RRobs!

Hebrews 11:1-3 New King James Version (NKJV)

By Faith We Understand

11 Now faith is the [a]substance of things hoped for, the [b]evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good testimony.

By faith we understand that the [c]worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.

Cheers!!! :)
 

Thank you. I love Hebrews 11! Those guys believed God's promises without reservation. God told them they'd get the promised land and they never doubted for one minute. They never saw it fulfilled with their eyes, but it was as good as done in their minds.

Heb 11:13,

These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of [them], and embraced [them], and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

Heb 11:39,

And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:

They went to their death with the same faith that God was good to His promises as they had on the day God first spoke to them. That's not even right though; their faith increased everyday as the learned how trustworthy God was. I think it would be fair to say their faith in God was never as solid as it was the day they died. Technically, the scriptures don't say that. Just a bit of Literary license on my part. The point is that they believed God regardless of the obstacles the devil placed in their way. They understood Romans 8:37 before it was written!

I knew a man who used to say over and over, "It's still the word, even if it never comes to pass!" When I see a fiery dart heading my way, I look it square on and say to myself, "Who are you going to believe? God or your own two eyes?" I have no faith in the 5 senses because they've proven to be highly detrimental to my walk with the Father. God's ways are infinitely better, so that's were I go in times of distress...and times of times of non-distress also. Why Not? God is always there!

God bless.

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On 8/10/2018 at 2:46 PM, rrobs said:

Faith is usually thought of as  something we must have when there is no way to understand something. That is actually a dangerous trap to fall into. It leads people to believe in things that they really don't understand. "Just take it by faith," is too often used as a reply to someone who asks a question about something they don't understand. It is a way to get people to believe in any idea someone can dream up, whether it makes sense or not. The trinity is a perfect example. Even the staunchest of trinitarians readily admit it can't be explained or understood. Instead we are told to take it by faith. That is the only way it can continue to be taken as doctrine.

People may say they have faith in something they don't understand, but it is just words. One must know something to be trustworthy before you can have any genuine faith in it.

People have no trouble lending money to a friend as long as they know that friend to be reliable and trustworthy. Because they know their friend to be reliable, they have faith they will get re-payed. But how about a stranger or someone you really don't know that well? Because you don't know them you are not likely to have the faith they will repay the loan. So faith is really a matter of knowing something in a intimate way, far from accepting anything blindly.

In the scriptures faith is used to indicate trust and confidence, not a blind acceptance.

Rom 10:17,

So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

We gain faith in God in direct proportion to how much we know about Him. He reveals Himself to us via the scriptures, so the more we know the scriptures the more faith we can have in God. Faith is a result of learning, not blindly accepting.

Great points. Pistis (Greek word translated as "faith" in the Bible) always means "Trust" not "Believing in something for which there is no evidence," as the New Atheists would have us believe. I wish pastors would have several sermons a year on this point. 

When James is talking of knowledge of God he uses the demons as an example of beings who have knowledge of God (which for the time-being is far superior to ours) and yet don't have faith, "Trust," God. 

The U.S. Marines have a motto that reads Semper Fidelis or "Always Faithful." Fidelis is latin for Pistis meaning again "Trustworthy." If we just plug in the fake definition for faith above we can see how valid it is:

The U.S. Marines are always faithful in that they alway believe in something for which there is no evidence.

Thanks for your post.

 

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This is super super true. This is a beautiful synopsis.

On 8/10/2018 at 2:46 PM, rrobs said:

Faith is usually thought of as  something we must have when there is no way to understand something. That is actually a dangerous trap to fall into. It leads people to believe in things that they really don't understand. "Just take it by faith," is too often used as a reply to someone who asks a question about something they don't understand. It is a way to get people to believe in any idea someone can dream up, whether it makes sense or not. The trinity is a perfect example. Even the staunchest of trinitarians readily admit it can't be explained or understood. Instead we are told to take it by faith. That is the only way it can continue to be taken as doctrine.

People may say they have faith in something they don't understand, but it is just words. One must know something to be trustworthy before you can have any genuine faith in it.

People have no trouble lending money to a friend as long as they know that friend to be reliable and trustworthy. Because they know their friend to be reliable, they have faith they will get re-payed. But how about a stranger or someone you really don't know that well? Because you don't know them you are not likely to have the faith they will repay the loan. So faith is really a matter of knowing something in a intimate way, far from accepting anything blindly.

In the scriptures faith is used to indicate trust and confidence, not a blind acceptance.

Rom 10:17,

So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

We gain faith in God in direct proportion to how much we know about Him. He reveals Himself to us via the scriptures, so the more we know the scriptures the more faith we can have in God. Faith is a result of learning, not blindly accepting.

 

 

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