Heb 13:8 Posted August 11, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 11, 2018 Does God allow spiritual blindness to exist to fulfill his purpose. Has the veil been torn only to those who believe in Rom 10:9. Does God give power to nonbelievers through spiritual blindness. Why do some hear and receive the calling quicker than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 11, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,043 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,788 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Heb 13:8 said: Does God allow spiritual blindness to exist to fulfill his purpose. Has the veil been torn only to those who believe in Rom 10:9. Does God give power to nonbelievers through spiritual blindness. Why do some hear and receive the calling quicker than others. Yes No Don't understand the question That's so complex it would take books to answer..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted August 12, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, other one said: No Don't understand the question That's so complex it would take books to answer..... No - spiritual veil? Read Jhn 19:11, handing Jesus over to Pilate complex, or does God simply allow it to fulfill His will on earth.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMidnight Posted August 12, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 536 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 563 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said: No - spiritual veil? Read Jhn 19:11, handing Jesus over to Pilate complex, or does God simply allow it to fulfill His will on earth.. Hello Heb 13: 8! It's not that God allows it, He planned it. Yes, God is in control of everything from the smallest to the largest, and uses the will of each of us to accomplish His purpose. Absolutely nothing happens that was not intended by God to happen. Cheers!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted August 12, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, RockyMidnight said: Hello Heb 13: 8! It's not that God allows it, He planned it. Yes, God is in control of everything from the smallest to the largest, and uses the will of each of us to accomplish His purpose. Absolutely nothing happens that was not intended by God to happen. Cheers!!! That makes sense. In a way He created the Pharisee... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behold Posted August 12, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 7 Topic Count: 87 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,795 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/30/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, RockyMidnight said: Hello Heb 13: 8! It's not that God allows it, He planned it. Yes, God is in control of everything from the smallest to the largest, and uses the will of each of us to accomplish His purpose. Absolutely nothing happens that was not intended by God to happen. Cheers!!! Well of course what you said is not true. For example, God does not INTEND for a person to be born, so that they can go to hell and end up in the lake of fire. God is not in the business of bringing some into the world with His INTENTION of them going to hell. If God was like that, he would not be a Loving God, He would be a horrible manifestation of Evil....Cruel, Unjust, and mentally Ill......similar to the way your poison theology would paint Him and falsely accuse Him. Be careful. Edited August 12, 2018 by Behold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted August 12, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,825 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,753 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Heb 13:8 said: That makes sense. In a way He created the Pharisee... Jesus died for all, everyone is given the chance to repent from their unbelief, yes he knew that some of the Jews will ended up to be the Pharisees, But he did not create the Pharisee. How did you come to that conclusion. When you say "God", what do you have in your mind, if we are allowed to ask you this question. What is a Pharisee? We know how God created Adam, How did he create the Pharisee? Do you thing the Pharaohs were chosen for distruction, and ending in Hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMidnight Posted August 12, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 536 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 563 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted August 12, 2018 45 minutes ago, Behold said: Well of course what you said is not true. For example, God does not INTEND for a person to be born, so that they can go to hell and end up in the lake of fire. God is not in the business of bringing some into the world with His INTENTION of them going to hell. If God was like that, he would not be a Loving God, He would be a horrible manifestation of Evil....Cruel, Unjust, and mentally Ill......similar to the way your poison theology would paint Him and falsely accuse Him. Be careful. Behold, Of course He is a loving God. There is no higher definition of Love than God. Did He not know each and everyone of us from the beginning? Did He not give us free will to chose? Did He not know our choices before we did? Absolutely. Is He not the greatest form of perfection possible? Of course He is. He is forever the same, never changing, immutable. Is He not Omniscient, Omnipotent, and Omnipresent? Of course He is. How then can anything occur without His knowledge of it and plan for it? Is His ways not higher than our ways, and His thoughts higher than our thoughts? You wrote "For example, God does not INTEND for a person to be born, so that they can go to hell and end up in the lake of fire. God is not in the business of bringing some into the world with His INTENTION of them going to hell." I agree, these things are not His intention, They are man's intention by sinning against God. Because God already knows the choice we will each make before we make that choice, does not take away our free will, nor does it prevent Him from using our choices for His purpose. He wishes no one should perish and that evil should be destroyed, but we, through Adam, sinned against Him and fell from grace, and we each everyday sin continuously against God. It is our free will to do so. None of us are worthy, and if not for Christ we ALL would be born into eternal separation from God, according to God's will; the wages of sin IS DEATH, death to any knowledge of Him. Numbers 23; 19, Job 23: 13, Psalms 90: 2, 129: 16, 139: 16, 147: 5, Proverbs 19: 20, Isaiah 14: 24, 48: 8, Ephesians 1: 11, 1 John 3: 20, 1 Peter 1: 18-20.+ Cheers Behold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted August 12, 2018 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,900 Content Per Day: 3.26 Reputation: 4,831 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted August 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said: Does God allow spiritual blindness to exist to fulfill his purpose. Has the veil been torn only to those who believe in Rom 10:9. Does God give power to nonbelievers through spiritual blindness. Why do some hear and receive the calling quicker than others. Some people like to pick other people's brains. I'm choosy about who's brain I pick so I wouldn't pick the brain of someone I thought was spiritually blind. Jesus said the Pharisees were blind guides, and taught they were to be ignored because they were the blind leading the blind so that both fall in the ditch. Someone who lacks spiritual qualities because they haven't cultivated them is said to be blind, - not God's purpose. 2Pe 1:9 But he that lacks these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and has forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. The ekklesia at Laodicea was said to be blind because it had a false image of itself, - not God's purpose. Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: Paul quotes David from Psalm 69:22-23 to show the judicial blinding of unbelieving Israel by God was prophesied, - it is a judgment for a time that is intended to make unbelieving Israel jealous of the salvation enjoyed by the Gentiles. Rom 11:7-12 (7) What then? Israel has not obtained that which he seeks for; but the election has obtained it, and the rest were blinded (8) (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day. (9) And David says, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: (10) Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway. (11) I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. (12) Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? Duty calls - gotta go - more later if possible... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heb 13:8 Posted August 12, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,533 Content Per Day: 0.56 Reputation: 382 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/03/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Yowm said: He may have created the Pharisee...but not as a Pharisee. I guess that's true https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=frlvW6vBAYOK5wL6woOwCg&q=psychopaths+are+born+sociopaths+are+made&oq=psychopaths+are+born&gs_l=psy-ab.3.1.0l4j0i22i30k1l6.1268.7072.0.8874.20.19.0.0.0.0.165.1791.14j5.19.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.19.1788.0..35i39k1j0i131k1j0i10k1.0.LnpkcUYfwMk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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