Pure Waters Posted August 29, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 54 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 54 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/28/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted August 29, 2018 45 minutes ago, iamlamad said: Sorry, Gibbus, but I don't think there is any possible way you can prove any of this by scripture. Therefore, I have a novel idea: why not just believe things AS WRITTEN? The 1260 are DAYS, the 42 months are MONTHS and the time, times etc are years. The 69 weeks are weeks of years. But God does not have the same calendar we use today or am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbus Posted August 29, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, iamlamad said: Sorry, Gibbus, but I don't think there is any possible way you can prove any of this by scripture. Therefore, I have a novel idea: why not just believe things AS WRITTEN? The 1260 are DAYS, the 42 months are MONTHS and the time, times etc are years. The 69 weeks are weeks of years. 6 hours ago, Pure Waters said: But God does not have the same calendar we use today or am I wrong? (Jesus Marks the Modern Day Calendar, it happened before that, but .........................) (A Day for 1000 Years, 1000 Years for a Day) 1260 // 1290 // 1335 = (Minus 1000) = 126 // 129 // 335 (335 - 365 Days in Year = 30) 26 A.D. to 29 A.D. for Jesus Ministry (3.5 Years) ... 30 A.D. Risen for 40 Days .......................... (A Day for 1000 Years, 1000 Years for a Day) 1260 // 1290 // 1335 = (Minus 1000 + 365 Days) ... (1335 Becomes 700) Flight 370 + 1990 Days // 2019 A.D. // 2066 A.D. ..........................(42 Mos and 24 Mos (1990 Days)....................... 49 Months/Years // 42/24 Months/Years and 7 Years // 42/24 Months Years 9/11/2001 + 49 Months + 24 Months + 7 Years = Flight 370 in 2014 + 42 Months + 24 Months to 2019 + 42 Years + 24 Months = 2066 .......................... (There is Only One Relative Answer, Even if You exchange/flip the information to fit the Gospel Claims .................. this matches 119 Years or 70 Years and 7 Weeks/49 Years from 1947 to 2066 .................. the rest is a mechanical analysis of the total sum of the interchangeable parts) (The Gospel gives us a Face Value Declaration = 2019 to 2066 for 1260 and 1290 and 1335 for 153 Days in 2066 A.D.) (These Facts are Persistent, these Facts are the Dominate Arguments) ******(The Statement from Jesus is, the Revised Best Answer)****** 26 A.D. to 29 A.D. for Jesus Ministry (3.5 Years) ... 30 A.D. Risen for 40 Days 2019 A.D. to 2066 A.D. for Trumpets/Vials ... 153 Days God Finishes the Law (The Persistent Fact "A Day for 1000 Years, cannot be Avoided" Do you See how 1000 Connects the Jesus Passion, to, the Revelation Timetable) Edited August 29, 2018 by Gibbus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted August 30, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Gibbus said: (Jesus Marks the Modern Day Calendar, it happened before that, but .........................) (A Day for 1000 Years, 1000 Years for a Day) 1260 // 1290 // 1335 = (Minus 1000) = 126 // 129 // 335 (335 - 365 Days in Year = 30) 26 A.D. to 29 A.D. for Jesus Ministry (3.5 Years) ... 30 A.D. Risen for 40 Days .......................... (A Day for 1000 Years, 1000 Years for a Day) 1260 // 1290 // 1335 = (Minus 1000 + 365 Days) ... (1335 Becomes 700) Flight 370 + 1990 Days // 2019 A.D. // 2066 A.D. ..........................(42 Mos and 24 Mos (1990 Days)....................... 49 Months/Years // 42/24 Months/Years and 7 Years // 42/24 Months Years 9/11/2001 + 49 Months + 24 Months + 7 Years = Flight 370 in 2014 + 42 Months + 24 Months to 2019 + 42 Years + 24 Months = 2066 .......................... (There is Only One Relative Answer, Even if You exchange/flip the information to fit the Gospel Claims .................. this matches 119 Years or 70 Years and 7 Weeks/49 Years from 1947 to 2066 .................. the rest is a mechanical analysis of the total sum of the interchangeable parts) (The Gospel gives us a Face Value Declaration = 2019 to 2066 for 1260 and 1290 and 1335 for 153 Days in 2066 A.D.) (These Facts are Persistent, these Facts are the Dominate Arguments) ******(The Statement from Jesus is, the Revised Best Answer)****** 26 A.D. to 29 A.D. for Jesus Ministry (3.5 Years) ... 30 A.D. Risen for 40 Days 2019 A.D. to 2066 A.D. for Trumpets/Vials ... 153 Days God Finishes the Law (The Persistent Fact "A Day for 1000 Years, cannot be Avoided" Do you See how 1000 Connects the Jesus Passion, to, the Revelation Timetable) You are just making things confusing! The Daniel prophecy of 69 weeks was given in 360 day years, but when converted came out to exactly 173,880 days - just as Daniel wrote. The the calendars made no difference. It will be the same in our future: aside from any calendar, when John wrote 1260 days, we can take that to the bank: that is exactly what it is going to be. So what if it does not fit our calendar? It will be the same for the 42 months: it will be 42 months of 30 days months, so again the count can be in days. It may not fit our calendar, but it will be accurate. But then, God certainly could change things so a month would again be 30 days. He has that power. 2019 to 2066? That's 47 years! The trumpet judgments will come in the first 1260 days of the 70th week of Daniel. The 7th seal will mark the start, the 7th trumpet will mark the midpoint and the 7th vial will end it. So we have 6 trumpet judgments in 1260 days. That COULD mean 6 months for each trumpet judgment, with a one month reprieve to see if any repent. (6 * 7 = 42) Probably it will not be so cut and dried. The rest of what you wrote seems like an effort is nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted August 30, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 30, 2018 11 hours ago, Pure Waters said: But God does not have the same calendar we use today or am I wrong? Calendars make no difference: days go by no matter what calendar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbus Posted August 30, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, iamlamad said: You are just making things confusing! The Daniel prophecy of 69 weeks was given in 360 day years, but when converted came out to exactly 173,880 days - just as Daniel wrote. The the calendars made no difference. It will be the same in our future: aside from any calendar, when John wrote 1260 days, we can take that to the bank: that is exactly what it is going to be. So what if it does not fit our calendar? It will be the same for the 42 months: it will be 42 months of 30 days months, so again the count can be in days. It may not fit our calendar, but it will be accurate. But then, God certainly could change things so a month would again be 30 days. He has that power. 2019 to 2066? That's 47 years! The trumpet judgments will come in the first 1260 days of the 70th week of Daniel. The 7th seal will mark the start, the 7th trumpet will mark the midpoint and the 7th vial will end it. So we have 6 trumpet judgments in 1260 days. That COULD mean 6 months for each trumpet judgment, with a one month reprieve to see if any repent. (6 * 7 = 42) Probably it will not be so cut and dried. The rest of what you wrote seems like an effort is nothing. (New Testament Epiphany) 70 Gen of Luke // 42 Gen of Matthew // 7 x 6 Gen of Matthew 1:17 70 Years + 42 and 7 Years = 49 Years 70 Years of Daniel + 7 Weeks/49 Years (God does not present us with a figure of "70 and 7", God gives us a parable to observe, 1947 Roswell to 2066 Halley's Comet for 119 Years) (Old Testament is "Parabolic", God has an Answer for That) 70 Weeks // 69 Weeks // 62 Weeks 62 Weeks 434 Days // 70 Weeks 490 Day // 69 Weeks 483 Days 9/11/2001 to Flight 370 in 2014 // 2017 to 2019 // 2066 to 153 Days (If the Old Testament is not addressed as a Parable, and the New Testament as Literal, the Gospel's Law is Violated) 2019 A.D. (This is Another Law, a "Day for 1000 Years, 1000 Years for a Day") 49 Years // 70 Days and 7 Years (1290 + 1335) // 1260 (24/42) (Simple Now?) 2017 to 2066 = 49 Years // 2017 to 2019 = 24 Months // 2014 to 2017 (42 Mos) 1260 // 62 Weeks = 2066 A.D. 1290 // 69 Weeks = 2019 A.D. 1335 // 70 Weeks = 1997 A.D. Turin Shroud of Jesus to End of 153 Days (70 yrs) A Day for 1000 Years, 1000 Years for a Day ... that means a Literal Association Between the Passion of Jesus, and the Second Coming of Jesus ... if that interpretation is not made, it has failed Just a Summary 1260 // 62 Weeks = 2066 A.D. // 42 Generations of Matthew 1290 // 69 Weeks = 2019 A.D. // 14 x 3 Gen. of Matthew for Lamb Slain 1335 // 70 Weeks = 1997 to End of 153 Days // 70 Generations of Luke Edited August 30, 2018 by Gibbus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted August 30, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gibbus said: (New Testament Epiphany) 70 Gen of Luke // 42 Gen of Matthew // 7 x 6 Gen of Matthew 1:17 70 Years + 42 and 7 Years = 49 Years 70 Years of Daniel + 7 Weeks/49 Years (God does not present us with a figure of "70 and 7", God gives us a parable to observe, 1947 Roswell to 2066 Halley's Comet for 119 Years) (Old Testament is "Parabolic", God has an Answer for That) 70 Weeks // 69 Weeks // 62 Weeks 62 Weeks 434 Days // 70 Weeks 490 Day // 69 Weeks 483 Days 9/11/2001 to Flight 370 in 2014 // 2017 to 2019 // 2066 to 153 Days (If the Old Testament is not addressed as a Parable, and the New Testament as Literal, the Gospel's Law is Violated) 2019 A.D. (This is Another Law, a "Day for 1000 Years, 1000 Years for a Day") 49 Years // 70 Days and 7 Years (1290 + 1335) // 1260 (24/42) (Simple Now?) 2017 to 2066 = 49 Years // 2017 to 2019 = 24 Months // 2014 to 2017 (42 Mos) 1260 // 62 Weeks = 2066 A.D. 1290 // 69 Weeks = 2019 A.D. 1335 // 70 Weeks = 1997 A.D. Turin Shroud of Jesus to End of 153 Days (70 yrs) A Day for 1000 Years, 1000 Years for a Day ... that means a Literal Association Between the Passion of Jesus, and the Second Coming of Jesus ... if that interpretation is not made, it has failed Just a Summary 1260 // 62 Weeks = 2066 A.D. // 42 Generations of Matthew 1290 // 69 Weeks = 2019 A.D. // 14 x 3 Gen. of Matthew for Lamb Slain 1335 // 70 Weeks = 1997 to End of 153 Days // 70 Generations of Luke Do you have any idea what the AUTHOR'S idea of the 1290 (days) and the 1335 (days) really is? what does Halleys comet have to do with anything in Revelation? A Day for 1000 Years, 1000 Years for a Day ... that means a Literal Association Between the Passion of Jesus, and the Second Coming of Jesus No it doesn't! Only in someone's imagination! i am sorry, but most of this has nothing to do with scripture. It is just imagination. Let me help you out: Daniel was told that to the "end of these wonders" would be 3 1/2 years. But he asked again and was told that from the midpoint of the week (when the sacrifice is taken away) there would be 1290 days. This then is speaking of an event that will take place 30 days AFTER the end of the week. Then the 1335 adds another 45 days to the 1290. This is speaking of another event 75 days after the end of the week. Or, of you wish, to count from the midpoint. What are these two events? Neither Daniel nor John gives us a hint. But, two awesome events that will happen: Jesus returning to earth - as shown in Rev. 19. He does not come at the end of the week - where everyone would know. He comes after the marriage and supper. Another event? Perhaps the dedication of the temple. Perhaps the capture of the Beast and False prophet. Perhaps the official start of the Millennial reign of Christ. People have been trying to fix dates on these things for a very long time - and have been wrong every time. One could make an association with Psalms where our lifespan is 70 years - with the date Israel put up the flag - 1948. That would hint (Maybe very slight hint) that Jesus could come THIS YEAR since this year is 70 years from 1948. Then again, if we add up the years when the first born came - of all the people from Adam to Abraham, the ages add up to 1948! So Abraham was born 1948 years after Adam. A coincidence? Edited August 30, 2018 by iamlamad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbus Posted August 30, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, iamlamad said: Do you have any idea what the AUTHOR'S idea of the 1290 (days) and the 1335 (days) really is? what does Halleys comet have to do with anything in Revelation? A Day for 1000 Years, 1000 Years for a Day ... that means a Literal Association Between the Passion of Jesus, and the Second Coming of Jesus No it doesn't! Only in someone's imagination! i am sorry, but most of this has nothing to do with scripture. It is just imagination. Let me help you out: Daniel was told that to the "end of these wonders" would be 3 1/2 years. But he asked again and was told that from the midpoint of the week (when the sacrifice is taken away) there would be 1290 days. This then is speaking of an event that will take place 30 days AFTER the end of the week. Then the 1335 adds another 45 days to the 1290. This is speaking of another event 75 days after the end of the week. Or, of you wish, to count from the midpoint. What are these two events? Neither Daniel nor John gives us a hint. But, two awesome events that will happen: Jesus returning to earth - as shown in Rev. 19. He does not come at the end of the week - where everyone would know. He comes after the marriage and supper. Another event? Perhaps the dedication of the temple. Perhaps the capture of the Beast and False prophet. Perhaps the official start of the Millennial reign of Christ. People have been trying to fix dates on these things for a very long time - and have been wrong every time. One could make an association with Psalms where our lifespan is 70 years - with the date Israel put up the flag - 1948. That would hint (Maybe very slight hint) that Jesus could come THIS YEAR since this year is 70 years from 1948. Then again, if we add up the years when the first born came - of all the people from Adam to Abraham, the ages add up to 1948! So Abraham was born 1948 years after Adam. A coincidence? (Collectively, that Withstanding ................. now ................... 1290 and 1335 is an Individual Prophecy) Comet ISON 2013 to 2019 (1290 and 1335) (In about 2300 Days of Daniel) 2066 A.D. to Begin 153 Days (1290 and 1335) (70yrs and 7wks/49yrs from 1947) ...................... Halley's Comet or Comet Halley, is a short-period comet visible from Earth every 74–79 years Halley is the only known short-period comet that is regularly visible to the naked eye from Earth, and the only naked-eye comet that might appear twice in a human lifetime.[13] Halley last appeared in the inner parts of the Solar System in 1986 and will next appear in mid-2061 Halley's Comet = 1947 Roswell UFO + 70 Years and 7Weeks/49 Years = 2066 ...................... (No Legal Evidence for 1948, thats Playing Make Believe, disregarding the Scientific Information, disregarding the Association to "Signs", Disregarding the Turin Shroud) ...................... Hale–Bopp met or exceeded most predictions when it passed perihelion on April 1, 1997 Turin Shroud Burning 1997 = Hale-Bopp 1997 .............. God used a Scientific Marker, but Remember Halley's Comet is Unique it is the "Only" = see description. ...................... ...................... ...................... (God Implies that the Figures of Daniel, "A Day for 100 Years", are a literal statement for the Birth, Ministry/Crucifixion = Second Coming ... ... ... ... that kind of statement invalidates any sound association between any figure other than 1947 Roswell UFO as an Act of God, and a literal statement, including a scientific statement, such as was voiced in this discussion) ...................... ...................... ...................... 10 hours ago, iamlamad said: But he asked again and was told that from the midpoint of the week (when the sacrifice is taken away) there would be 1290 days. This then is speaking of an event that will take place 30 days AFTER the end of the week. Then the 1335 adds another 45 days to the 1290. This is speaking of another event 75 days after the end of the week. Or, of you wish, to count from the midpoint. What are these two events? Neither Daniel nor John gives us a hint. Flight 370 in 3/8/2014 + 2061 Days = 10/29/2019 ......................... (God doesn't make those declarations of 45/75)........................ ......................... (God has already acted to Produce "Signs".......)........................ 9/11/2001 + 1335/13 Years = 3/8/2014 + 2061 Days = 10/29/2019 (SEALS completed 9/11/2001 (1335) ... TRUMPETS begin/completed 2019 A.D.) (It is the "TRUMPETS", that are associated with the "ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION" and therefore "1290", becomes "2019", "A DAY FOR 1000 TRUMPETS") ("A DAY FOR 1000 TRUMPETS = 153 Days for 1335, as a Literal Statement") ("A DAY FOR 1000 TRUMPETS = 2066 A.D. for 1260) (I understand the miniature argument you are trying to make, but the figures are "PARABOLIC" ... ... ... ... "1335" isn't Literal, so Remember that "1290 + 1335 = 70 Days and 7 Years" ... ... ... ... Since God does not say that ... ... ... ... we've used 2300 Days from Comet ISON to 2019 instead, as a literal statement) EDIT I'll be 37 Years Old for Flight 37 in 2019 A.D. (Daniel 9's 70 Weeks), Just a Joke Edited August 30, 2018 by Gibbus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted August 31, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.08 Reputation: 688 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 31, 2018 4 hours ago, Gibbus said: (Collectively, that Withstanding ................. now ................... 1290 and 1335 is an Individual Prophecy) Comet ISON 2013 to 2019 (1290 and 1335) (In about 2300 Days of Daniel) 2066 A.D. to Begin 153 Days (1290 and 1335) (70yrs and 7wks/49yrs from 1947) ...................... Halley's Comet or Comet Halley, is a short-period comet visible from Earth every 74–79 years Halley is the only known short-period comet that is regularly visible to the naked eye from Earth, and the only naked-eye comet that might appear twice in a human lifetime.[13] Halley last appeared in the inner parts of the Solar System in 1986 and will next appear in mid-2061 Halley's Comet = 1947 Roswell UFO + 70 Years and 7Weeks/49 Years = 2066 ...................... (No Legal Evidence for 1948, thats Playing Make Believe, disregarding the Scientific Information, disregarding the Association to "Signs", Disregarding the Turin Shroud) ...................... Hale–Bopp met or exceeded most predictions when it passed perihelion on April 1, 1997 Turin Shroud Burning 1997 = Hale-Bopp 1997 .............. God used a Scientific Marker, but Remember Halley's Comet is Unique it is the "Only" = see description. ...................... ...................... ...................... (God Implies that the Figures of Daniel, "A Day for 100 Years", are a literal statement for the Birth, Ministry/Crucifixion = Second Coming ... ... ... ... that kind of statement invalidates any sound association between any figure other than 1947 Roswell UFO as an Act of God, and a literal statement, including a scientific statement, such as was voiced in this discussion) ...................... ...................... ...................... Flight 370 in 3/8/2014 + 2061 Days = 10/29/2019 ......................... (God doesn't make those declarations of 45/75)........................ ......................... (God has already acted to Produce "Signs".......)........................ 9/11/2001 + 1335/13 Years = 3/8/2014 + 2061 Days = 10/29/2019 (SEALS completed 9/11/2001 (1335) ... TRUMPETS begin/completed 2019 A.D.) (It is the "TRUMPETS", that are associated with the "ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION" and therefore "1290", becomes "2019", "A DAY FOR 1000 TRUMPETS") ("A DAY FOR 1000 TRUMPETS = 153 Days for 1335, as a Literal Statement") ("A DAY FOR 1000 TRUMPETS = 2066 A.D. for 1260) (I understand the miniature argument you are trying to make, but the figures are "PARABOLIC" ... ... ... ... "1335" isn't Literal, so Remember that "1290 + 1335 = 70 Days and 7 Years" ... ... ... ... Since God does not say that ... ... ... ... we've used 2300 Days from Comet ISON to 2019 instead, as a literal statement) EDIT I'll be 37 Years Old for Flight 37 in 2019 A.D. (Daniel 9's 70 Weeks), Just a Joke You will find, when the day comes, that the 1290 days and the 1335 days are most certainly literal days. Thanks, but I am going to stick to scripture. And I will stick to literal when it makes sense in a literal sense. There is nothing figurative about 1290 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbus Posted August 31, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 138 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, iamlamad said: You will find, when the day comes, that the 1290 days and the 1335 days are most certainly literal days. Thanks, but I am going to stick to scripture. And I will stick to literal when it makes sense in a literal sense. There is nothing figurative about 1290 days. (Its not Literal with God, EDIT, but we'll have to see if Maybe this is accumulate/total argument by that reason then Literal) Solstice Precessional Alignment 1980 1998 2012 2016 (Finally 2019) Galactic Alignment 2012 + 1335 Days to 2016 (end of Solstice P. Alignment) 2019 Dark Rift Alignment (this is the figure nobody is clear about) (Zechariah Sitchin hosted a seminar in the City of Philadelphia, relative to the Death of Terrence Mckenna, that resulted from a misunderstanding with the state in the USA and the "Master Building // Ray Mabus (R.M.)" in New York City, as a result of information that may of originated from me personally) (Zechariah Sitchin was later killed and destroyed before the argument of 2012 was engaged) Right now You do not have effective legal evidence that 1335 Days means anything with God. God did not react, so the argument is "Parabolic". Right now also, everything will be resolved in 2019 A.D. for 1290 of Daniel which identifies with the TRUMPETS/ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION. We do not have a perfect understanding of the Universe that God has in view around the earth, otherwise 2019 A.D., may have significant Prophecy Attached to it, for a very long outstanding time, that we are no aware of, So this argument of 1335 is Literal from 2012 A.D., we'll have to see later on, next year. Edited August 31, 2018 by Gibbus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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