Neighbor Posted August 20, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 948 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,507 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 9,019 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Online Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) Hi, A subtopic that opened up in a welcome thread has me wandering through whether God is static or fluid, and especially if God is a being at all? So I share the following for simple conversation and not as a doctrine. God Being - Human Being - Beings Beings are things that exist. God exists so is God a being? Somehow I think that is not the case. God exists in three persons, but is one God. Okay, is that a unity of beings, or is it God who created all that is, all beings. If God is creator of beings, is God a creation a being of God's own will? Somehow I see God is higher, greater than being. God is the source of all being, and not a being. Seems to me God is neither static, nor fluid or evolving, for God is not limited as are all that are created under God's sovereign will and awesome power to will all that God wills. God simply is, He was before there was being. God just doesn't seem to me to fit well into an encompassing by language, not under the limitation of human language. The fifty plus attributes of God found in language when summed is infinitely beyond the capacity of language itself other than to say - God. Yes? No? It just seems to me the only limit on God God overcame. God cannot abide sin. God made atonement for sin, perfection taking on imperfection and reconciling imperfection of sin to perfection by the work and obedience of God the Son Jesus, our Lord and savior who is the reconciler. "God", no wonder some find it a word not to pronounce, nor try to write. That word, does it do justice to what I call God, even though it does not seem to encompass all that is deity? God being beyond simply being, language seems incomplete. Edited August 20, 2018 by Neighbor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FollowerOfTheWay Posted August 20, 2018 Group: Junior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 117 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 86 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/30/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2018 I think if you reflect on The Word you may get the answer you are looking for. For example, reflect on this verse: "Be still, and know that I am God". I want to reflect with you: "Be still..." what does this mean? To be mentally still? Maybe? "...and know..." maybe means "to experience"... "...that I am God" and God is love (1 John 4:8) And by the way, we have the answer right there in 1 John 4:8 - God is love. And you may continue to reflect on that. Ok, this was just a quick reflection. You may reflect further and deeper. Hope I could help. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted August 20, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 948 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,507 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 9,019 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Online Birthday: 03/03/1885 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) I actually "see" God as outside of time for He created it. God is more than what I think of as a being, Jesus having created all that is created. Before all, was God If there are dispensations it seems to me there must be a dispensation of time before time and I think a time after time itself. The first a void, the latter the fullness of all creation to where there is no void. God is awesome beyond and greater than than all of that as I see God. Fact I cannot see God, not because God is Spirit, but because God is larger than my mind's eye can perceive. Edited August 20, 2018 by Neighbor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted August 20, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,013 Content Per Day: 7.97 Reputation: 21,364 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted August 20, 2018 God is very personal... in fact He relates our promised relationship as Husband and wife. The fact that God exceeds us is not to be our focus, for how can it, but what can be understood should be our meditation day and night till He takes us home and enlarges us 1 John 3:2-3 (KJV) 2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. The issues of s/Spiritual matters lies within the everlasting not the things that are passing away 1 Corinthians 2:14-16 (KJV) 14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted August 20, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 17 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,436 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,360 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted August 20, 2018 I'm unsure what you're implying, but God had no beginning (He always was, Alpha & Omega) and has no end. As far as human language and our limited understanding to comprehend much less communicate it, I believe the Apostle Paul hints at it in 2 Cor 12: 4. 2 Corinthians 12:4 (KJV) How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. Hebrews 13:8 (KJV) Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. This is fixed in concrete so to speak; and is not fluid, changeable or debatable. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted August 21, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.36 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted August 21, 2018 11 hours ago, Neighbor said: Hi, A subtopic that opened up in a welcome thread has me wandering through whether God is static or fluid, and especially if God is a being at all? So I share the following for simple conversation and not as a doctrine. God Being - Human Being - Beings Beings are things that exist. God exists so is God a being? Somehow I think that is not the case. God exists in three persons, but is one God. Okay, is that a unity of beings, or is it God who created all that is, all beings. If God is creator of beings, is God a creation a being of God's own will? Somehow I see God is higher, greater than being. God is the source of all being, and not a being. Seems to me God is neither static, nor fluid or evolving, for God is not limited as are all that are created under God's sovereign will and awesome power to will all that God wills. God simply is, He was before there was being. God just doesn't seem to me to fit well into an encompassing by language, not under the limitation of human language. The fifty plus attributes of God found in language when summed is infinitely beyond the capacity of language itself other than to say - God. Yes? No? It just seems to me the only limit on God God overcame. God cannot abide sin. God made atonement for sin, perfection taking on imperfection and reconciling imperfection of sin to perfection by the work and obedience of God the Son Jesus, our Lord and savior who is the reconciler. "God", no wonder some find it a word not to pronounce, nor try to write. That word, does it do justice to what I call God, even though it does not seem to encompass all that is deity? God being beyond simply being, language seems incomplete. Seems to me God is neither static, nor fluid or evolving, for God is not limited as are all that are created under God's sovereign will and awesome power to will all that God wills. God simply is, He was before there was being. YEP. GOD always was is and never changes . the constant , the absolute . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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