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Been hearing some things about the farmers being in danger in South Africa.   Anyone have more information about this?

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9 hours ago, Debp said:

Been hearing some things about the farmers being in danger in South Africa.   Anyone have more information about this?

Hi, Seems farmers are always  in danger everywhere.  There were farmers at Los Angeles at one time. Not anymore. Land is always being taken. Fights over rights are always occurring. It is worldwide, part of this fallen creation, and often just a power trip for the more powerful against the less powerful. Usually  with a crusade in mind religious or otherwise.

Threats over land and farming goes on using just plain old zoning issues at the USA, water rights issues between countries, religious/ecological causes world wide, need for electrical power at China,  and at Brazil it has been going on  for over sixty years with even the highest court setting aside a specific time to resolve ownership of massive quantity of lands. People have been shot up, run off, records destroyed, squatters have taken lands. All that happens, bad stuff happens it is life. Yet one day the lamb will lay  with the lion and there will be plenty for each.

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I have heard the Muslims of the north are invading South Africa and building mosques every mile and converting churches into mosques. Is there a link between the Muslim Conquista and the farming scandals?

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I saw a youtube video the other day where Putin was inviting all the white farmers to come to Russia and stay....   at least that's what the translators were saying he said

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5 hours ago, Davida said:

Not even close to what is happening in South africa.

Hi,

Perhaps I do not understand. Why not make it clearer for me.

Are you to tell me that 8% of the population had not pushed nearly 92% off land for all the time of English colonialism? And  tell me that Israel for it's own reasons having to do with immigration, but also diamond trade, and natural gas did not enter into attack  to help the 8% in near recent history  against 92% of the population? Are you  going to tell me there is no possibility that Israel will do that  again? ( I don't think they will this time). Tell me that  the eight percent is not in dire trouble today trying to continue to be  holding onto the lands and mineral resources they have controlled. 

Tell me that parliment is not considering just taking the land without compensation to the 8%. Tell me the gold mines are not almost all gone. Tell me the diamond mining industry is not in turmoil, affecting Italy, Israel, Cuba,  South Korea, and China's, interests in high end diamond and gold jewelry.

Tell me that the formerly safe seeming retreat for many US americans wanting to place their assets outside the USA is not being seen as crumbling. Tell me the currency is not in severe trouble.

To me all is pretty much what it always has been.

I do think man of the unsaved world of men raids each other's turf, takes what  they can, a few get very very rich, many go very very hungry stay in poverty and suffer until a time of severe circumstances come together, and then desperate people gather and do battle. Sometimes they win sometimes they are wiped out. Sometime other governments and peoples see opportunity for themselves and join in the fray.

If I remember at all, South Africa  was used, by Germany as it's long range plan for fueling their industry and war machines to come starting early in the 1920s leading to being ready again for the second world war, for a safer place to convert natural gas into useable diesel fuel.

Natural gas and gas conversion plants Fisher - Tropsch method ares till being a resource of very high interest there right now. There is an other conversion method  that does not require oxygen that is being developed at New Zealand with rights to the process already licensed by most evey refiner.

That is a composite of what I recall, but perhaps its pollute my mind, and I do not know what is really happening. So please correct my  impressions and perhaps my own prejudices, -share what is closer to being correct. For it seems to me that with all that going on there is also a religious fevor, an opportunity to gather people into a fold, not necessarily the fold of Jesus.

Is that some of what might be going on? Is that "even close"- If not again please tell me. What is going on? Thanks.

I see it as simple: What is needed is Christ Jesus. My prayer is for many to come to Jesus as their Lord and savior.  In the midst of such conflict discord and hardship for many,  might  the name of our Lord be championed throughout all the African Continent. May the peoples of the lands hear and turn about to Christ Jesus. May enemies become brothers sharing one with another helping from within more than being overrun from without again and again.

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12 hours ago, Davida said:

It is way worse then that other link reports. Go on youtube and find Lauren southern has done a report and interviewed South African Dutch farmers, it's heart wrenching. 

There is a genocide happening against the white Dutch farmers, who are living under constant threat and killed in horrible savage attacks. The all black socialist government has been accused of inciting racial hatred towards the whites and condoning the taking their land. They also chant kill the Boer (Dutch south African settler farmers) which The media is not covering it, because it's a black racial hatred and genocide against white farmers  and that doesn't fit the narrative.... 

https://southafricatoday.net/south-africa-news/book-kill-the-boer-brutal-reality-of-farm-attacks-government-complicity/

 https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/180781/gruesome-reality-racist-south-africa-arnold-ahlert

 

10 hours ago, other one said:

I saw a youtube video the other day where Putin was inviting all the white farmers to come to Russia and stay....   at least that's what the translators were saying he said....

 

4 hours ago, Badjao33 said:

It seems that South Africa has a problem with high crime rates and corruption. The far right seems to have spun these problems in South Africa into a racial issue. It is important to note that frontpagemag also claimed there was a genocide here in Mindanao that involved 60,000 Christians which was a complete lie. It seems that website likes to throw the genocide word around a lot without any facts on the ground to support their claims....

 

46 minutes ago, Davida said:

I don't care for posts that try to drown out other people's. A person that does that has a political Agenda and it has nothing to do with Truth. They attempt to SLANDER and are divisive....

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7 minutes ago, Davida said:

Oye comment Joe , is inappropriate  because it's Not a "zoning" issue it's racially driven, many farmers have been murdered and the chants of  "kill the boer" done by the elected officials. Why do you think Putin has offered them refuge?

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7 minutes ago, Badjao33 said:

Because the farmers are offering $100,000 per family ($1.5 billion total investment) to lease land in Russia? Putin didn't offer them refuge, the farmers approached Russia with the idea.... 

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