Equippers Posted September 15, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1,214 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1,163 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/28/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) hello i have a mental health diagnosis recently i was put on compulsory treatment order in a court hearing in front of a judge by my doctor with help of false testimonies. he falsely claimed that i have a history of worrying about people put poison in my food, this is not true. he claimed i refused a heavier dose of this previous medication i am on, which is not true because i have specifically told my key worker i am open to higher dose of my previous medication. i was reluctant to be on new medications with nasty side effects. he said in one of our previous appointments, i was hurrying to leave because i said i need to go back to school, and later on he found me hanging outside the clinic leisurely. i am pretty sure i said no such thing. it appeared he stated this to discredit me to the judge..... there are other false testimonies as well when he tried to launched CTO against me, at one point he said coldly to me "you are not working with us, you don't trust us" it is true i did not fully trust them because of my negative experience with mental health professionals in the past, as well as how this physician had conducted himself. but i have always tried to answer their questions as much as i could. and his behavior now just confirmed i was right about him in the first place. where i live, we have this thing called the mental health act, it is designed to safe guard patients' human rights and acknowledging in the process that physicians can and do abuse patients, otherwise there would be no need of having safe guards in place. but here is mine problem, i can't talk to people about the dilemma i am in because when it comes to mental health, most people tend have their tinted glasses on when they listen to you, and they tend to want to give the physicians the benefit of doubts as take whatever they say at face value. i don't know what to do, i am a little bit scared of this doctor right now because now i am under compulsory treatment, he can do whatever he wants, and he has already proven himself to be dishonest and without integrity by lying in an attempt to put me under this order. i am currently experiencing side effects with mine new medication, but i am concerned he will not agree to change it back to mine old medications, which i did not experienced side effects on or agree to reduce the dosage. he has already dismissed mine concern once by stating the symptoms i am experiencing is considered rare for this drug, but when i do research on the net, it says one in 10 people experience the type of side effects i am experiencing. anyway, the point of me thread is to get advice on how i can talk to people about this type of things and getting a fair shot of them listening to me with an open mind i also don't know how to trust God in the midst of it when truth did not prevail and there does not seem to be likelihood of it ever does..... Edited September 15, 2018 by Equippers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GandalfTheWise Posted September 15, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 24 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,459 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 2,377 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/23/2017 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted September 15, 2018 @Equippers Wow. That is way outside the range of anything I have any experience with. The only possible advice I'd have is to document things. Maybe keep a notebook and write down dates and times when things happen for a record as well as keeping any paper records you receive in a folder. It might also be helpful to document when and where you go to places before and after various appointments. Perhaps organizing your research as well including the actual drug description inserts would be useful to have copies of as well. My *very minimal* experience with the court system in the US is that written documentation seems to carry some weight compared to purely oral comments. Hopefully someone here has more experience and can give better input. Some of the worst situations we find ourselves in often seem to be the ones God uses to prepare us for ministry to others in the future. Decades ago, I always thought ministry came from a position of authority, knowledge, and completely having your own act together. I now realize that often those ministries we are each most suited for are often a result of the darkest places we went through. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted September 15, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,197 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,495 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted September 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Equippers said: hello ...... anyway, the point of me thread is to get advice on how i can talk to people about this type of things and getting a fair shot of them listening to me with an open mind i also don't know how to trust God in the midst of it when truth did not prevail and there does not seem to be likelihood of it ever does..... Hi Equippers, You certainly are going through a challenging time. GandalfTheWise has given you very good advice that is very practical. My thoughts to add are that man`s systems in any area are faulty and you will not get justice or truth prevailing there. The second part of your problem is a trust issue with God. Are you a believer? Sounds as though you are, however have you made the Lord, lord of your life. Is He just a Saviour to you, or have you totally given over your life to Him. Are you addressing sins that keep you from hearing God. He does not want these things that will eventually kill you, as part of your life. I believe you know the areas that God is highlighting to you. Give them over to Him and then your relationship with God can be honest, and not deceitful. (BTW to those reading I have had personal PM`s with Equippers, and he will know what I am saying.) praying, Marilyn. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMidnight Posted September 15, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 536 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 563 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted September 15, 2018 Hello Equippers! Do you have any options for a second opinion preferably by an accredited physician from another, unaffiliated medical institution than the one treating you to show impartiality? Do you have a lawyer representing you? A Christian attorney and Christian physician for a second opinion would seem to be your best defense IMHO. Praying that this issue gets resolved justly and that you receive the help God deems best for you. Sincerely!!! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equippers Posted September 15, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1,214 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1,163 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/28/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 35 minutes ago, Marilyn C said: Hi Equippers, You certainly are going through a challenging time. GandalfTheWise has given you very good advice that is very practical. My thoughts to add are that man`s systems in any area are faulty and you will not get justice or truth prevailing there. The second part of your problem is a trust issue with God. Are you a believer? Sounds as though you are, however have you made the Lord, lord of your life. Is He just a Saviour to you, or have you totally given over your life to Him. Are you addressing sins that keep you from hearing God. He does not want these things that will eventually kill you, as part of your life. I believe you know the areas that God is highlighting to you. Give them over to Him and then your relationship with God can be honest, and not deceitful. (BTW to those reading I have had personal PM`s with Equippers, and he will know what I am saying.) praying, Marilyn. hello yes, i am a Christian. i have decided to stay celibate to honor Him though i do struggle in this area. what do you mean by them over to Him though? do you mean that i can hand over things to God and trust He will take care of me regardless what happens...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equippers Posted September 15, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1,214 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1,163 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/28/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, RockyMidnight said: Hello Equippers! Do you have any options for a second opinion preferably by an accredited physician from another, unaffiliated medical institution than the one treating you to show impartiality? Do you have a lawyer representing you? A Christian attorney and Christian physician for a second opinion would seem to be your best defense IMHO. Praying that this issue gets resolved justly and that you receive the help God deems best for you. Sincerely!!! ? thank you the question is how to find a Christian physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMidnight Posted September 15, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 536 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 563 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted September 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Equippers said: thank you the question is how to find a Christian physician. Hi Equippers. If you are allowed to request a second opinion, stipulate that you want it from a Christian doctor. Where are you located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equippers Posted September 15, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 138 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 1,214 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 1,163 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/28/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, RockyMidnight said: Hi Equippers. If you are allowed to request a second opinion, stipulate that you want it from a Christian doctor. Where are you located? hello i am from nz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMidnight Posted September 15, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 536 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 563 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Equippers said: hello i am from nz Then there should be no problems finding Christian doctors. Perhaps this organization can help' New Zealand, Christian Medical Fellowship Christian Medical Fellowship of New Zealand is a group of Christian doctors and medical students throughout New Zealand with a passion for serving Christ through their work in medicine. We are encouraging people to think about what it means to be a Christian doctor. www.cmf.net.nz C/O TSCF P.O.Box 9672 Marion Square Wellington 6141 New Zealand email: admin@cmf.net.nz Can you request a second opinion? Here's the google results om New Zealand Christian attorneys. https://www.google.com/search?q=Christian+lawyers+in+New+Zealand&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS794US794&oq=Christian+lawyers+in+New+Zealand&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.15239j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Cheers!!! Edited September 15, 2018 by RockyMidnight 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted September 15, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,017 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,293 Content Per Day: 1.79 Reputation: 16,356 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted September 15, 2018 4 hours ago, RockyMidnight said: Then there should be no problems finding Christian doctors. Perhaps this organization can help' New Zealand, Christian Medical Fellowship Christian Medical Fellowship of New Zealand is a group of Christian doctors and medical students throughout New Zealand with a passion for serving Christ through their work in medicine. We are encouraging people to think about what it means to be a Christian doctor. www.cmf.net.nz C/O TSCF P.O.Box 9672 Marion Square Wellington 6141 New Zealand email: admin@cmf.net.nz Can you request a second opinion? Here's the google results om New Zealand Christian attorneys. https://www.google.com/search?q=Christian+lawyers+in+New+Zealand&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS794US794&oq=Christian+lawyers+in+New+Zealand&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i64.15239j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Cheers!!! The above is a great resource for you! I was thinking you should try to get another doctor. Perhaps if you get a second opinion and they agree with you, you can get your original doctor to make the proper changes to your medication. Or you might ask for help in changing doctors entirely. That would be the most ideal solution.... let's pray about that! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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