Dennis1209 Posted September 17, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 17 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,447 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,363 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted September 17, 2018 I know I'm not the first to discover this, but studying O.T. Hebrew names has become very interesting. It even takes some of the dryness out of reading the long lists of 'begat's' biblical genealogies and adds some additional insight. We know these names in the Bible were not given after the fact to align with their actions, character, etc. I have yet to find even one instance so far where the name doesn't accurately give you a tiny bit of information about that individual. We know of instances of when the Lord told the parents what to name their child (Jesus - John the Baptist). So the question I wonder about: how did all those parents, both Hebrew and heathen, accurately name their child with a tidbit of accurate information about them? I'll just select one name out of many dozens for an example: SANBALLAT - hated or (thorn) in secret. That pretty much sums him up in the Book of Nehemiah doesn't it? What's your thoughts and perspective? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoltan777 Posted September 18, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 295 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/25/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) Good question. And I think names have meaning more than we think. Names have also related to numbers but I am not good at it. But I know names have meaning which reveals the future or our the personality somehow. Like a written code. But I also know God can change this code as He changed the name of Abram to Abraham or Jacob to Israel. Maybe it's off topic but I am also wondering about my name many times. Was it just a mistake or did it mean anything? Actually I was asking God some times to change it as I am not very happy with it. What's your name and what it means? Edited September 18, 2018 by Zoltan777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtletwo Posted September 21, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1,192 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 7,264 Content Per Day: 1.19 Reputation: 15,710 Days Won: 194 Joined: 07/15/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Yowm said: The next day, when Pashhur released Jeremiah from the stocks, Jeremiah said to him, “The Lord does not call your name Pashhur, but Terror on Every Side. Jeremiah 20:1-3 (ESV) Interesting. Did not know about this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melodyfire Posted September 21, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 31 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 29 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/13/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2018 Dennis, you are so right. And I am excited you posted this because it gives me a chance to share something amazing about the names found in the OT. This is the genealogy of Jesus. As you said, names have specific meanings. As one reads the meaning of each name in Christ's lineage, the prophecy of our Salvation unfolds. It is a bit long as it goes past Abraham and all the way back to Adam. God God Adam Man Seth is appointed Enosh a mortal man of Kenan sorrow is born. Mahalalel The glory of God Jared shall come down Enoch instructing that Methuselah his death shall bring Lamech those in despair Noah comfort and rest. Shem The fame of Arphaxad Babylon's fortress Cainan and sorrow Shelah extend like a plant Eber beyond the place of Peleg division (at the tower of Babel). Reu A friend Serug also branches out Nahor enraged Terah with fury. Abram A glorious father, (Abraham) the father of a multitude Isaac laughs Jacob as he outwits his enemy. (Israel) A mighty prince sees God Levi (then) joins himself to Kohath an assembly, Amram a glorious people Moses (whom) he rescued Gershom stranger(s) in a strange land, Shebuel captives delivered by God. Judah One who praises the Lord Perez breaks open a way (into) Hezron an area surrounded by a wall Ram of great height. Amminadab O, my people who belong to the Prince, Nahshon a prophet Salmon clothed Boaz with strength Obed who serves (the Lord), Jesse is here! David One well loved, Solomon peaceful, Rehoboam and who sets the people free. Abijah My father is the Lord, Asa the healer of Jehoshaphat him whom the Lord judged Jehoram and whom the Lord raised up. Ahaziah The Lord took hold (of me) Joash and the Lord is strong! Amaziah Mighty is the Lord! Uzziah/Azariah My strength and help are in the Lord! Jotham The Lord is perfect. Ahaz I took hold of Hezekiah the strength of the Lord. Mannaseh It made me forget (my misery). Amon Truly (I am) the master builder Josiah whom the Lord healed, Jehoiakim/Eliakim whom the Lord God raised up, Jeconiah whom the Lord upholds, Coniah did uphold Jehoiachin and will uphold! Shealtiel I have asked God about Pedaiah the ransomed of the Lord, Zerubbabel the exiles who are in Babylon. Abiud My Father is glorious! Eliakim My Father will raise up Azor a helper, Zadok the just One Akim will the Lord raise up! Eliud My God is my praise! Eleazar God will help! Matthan May the gift of Jacob Jacob (the one who grasped the heel) Joseph increase (in greatness)! Emmanuel For God is with us! Jesus Christ The Messiah and Savior of Church those called out of Babylon. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted September 21, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 17 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,447 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,363 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Yowm said: I was reading in Jeremiah today and was reminded of this thread and a possible exception. Pashur means freedom, but watch what happens... Now Pashhur the priest, the son of Immer, who was chief officer in the house of the Lord, heard Jeremiah prophesying these things. Then Pashhur beat Jeremiah the prophet, and put him in the stocks that were in the upper Benjamin Gate of the house of the Lord. The next day, when Pashhur released Jeremiah from the stocks, Jeremiah said to him, “The Lord does not call your name Pashhur, but Terror on Every Side. Jeremiah 20:1-3 (ESV) Interesting. What reference did you use? My "A Dictionary of the Proper Names" says - PASHUR = increasing of white (linen). I can't find anything listed for Pashur in behindthename.com. My Bible software references also translate his name as 'prosperity everywhere' in one, and 'liberation' in another. Wide differences in Hebrew translations for this name I guess. My KJV lists Magor-missabib and had to look it up, and your (ESV) correctly has the translation at your finger tips. It's interesting God changed his name to Magor-missabib for a number of reasons. And 'all' translations I've checked all agree (terror on every side) except one (fear from around about), but that's close enough for me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted September 21, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 17 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,447 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,363 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 4 hours ago, melodyfire said: Dennis, you are so right. And I am excited you posted this because it gives me a chance to share something amazing about the names found in the OT. This is the genealogy of Jesus. As you said, names have specific meanings. As one reads the meaning of each name in Christ's lineage, the prophecy of our Salvation unfolds. It is a bit long as it goes past Abraham and all the way back to Adam. God God Adam Man Seth is appointed Enosh a mortal man of Kenan sorrow is born. Mahalalel The glory of God Jared shall come down Enoch instructing that Methuselah his death shall bring Lamech those in despair Noah comfort and rest. Shem The fame of Arphaxad Babylon's fortress Cainan and sorrow Shelah extend like a plant Eber beyond the place of Peleg division (at the tower of Babel). Reu A friend Serug also branches out Nahor enraged Terah with fury. Abram A glorious father, (Abraham) the father of a multitude Isaac laughs Jacob as he outwits his enemy. (Israel) A mighty prince sees God Levi (then) joins himself to Kohath an assembly, Amram a glorious people Moses (whom) he rescued Gershom stranger(s) in a strange land, Shebuel captives delivered by God. Judah One who praises the Lord Perez breaks open a way (into) Hezron an area surrounded by a wall Ram of great height. Amminadab O, my people who belong to the Prince, Nahshon a prophet Salmon clothed Boaz with strength Obed who serves (the Lord), Jesse is here! David One well loved, Solomon peaceful, Rehoboam and who sets the people free. Abijah My father is the Lord, Asa the healer of Jehoshaphat him whom the Lord judged Jehoram and whom the Lord raised up. Ahaziah The Lord took hold (of me) Joash and the Lord is strong! Amaziah Mighty is the Lord! Uzziah/Azariah My strength and help are in the Lord! Jotham The Lord is perfect. Ahaz I took hold of Hezekiah the strength of the Lord. Mannaseh It made me forget (my misery). Amon Truly (I am) the master builder Josiah whom the Lord healed, Jehoiakim/Eliakim whom the Lord God raised up, Jeconiah whom the Lord upholds, Coniah did uphold Jehoiachin and will uphold! Shealtiel I have asked God about Pedaiah the ransomed of the Lord, Zerubbabel the exiles who are in Babylon. Abiud My Father is glorious! Eliakim My Father will raise up Azor a helper, Zadok the just One Akim will the Lord raise up! Eliud My God is my praise! Eleazar God will help! Matthan May the gift of Jacob Jacob (the one who grasped the heel) Joseph increase (in greatness)! Emmanuel For God is with us! Jesus Christ The Messiah and Savior of Church those called out of Babylon. Hi Melodyfire, Is there any coincidences in the Bible? No, I think not. What about the first 10 patriarchs listed, Adam - Noah, you notice anything? Depending whose Hebrew name translation you use it can vary slightly. Take the first ten generations from Adam to Noah and make a grammar correct sentence with their translated names. I come out with... Man (is) appointed mortal sorrow, (but) the Blessed God shall come down teaching (that) His death shall bring (the) despairing rest (and) comfort. Credit to the late Dr. Chuck Missler for this discovery. Fascinating isn't it, that's why I'm paying particular attention with names and genealogies listed. What else might be hidden in the Bible in plain sight? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted September 21, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 17 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,447 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,363 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 Another thing that glares out at me. I'm a visual type of person whom understands and comprehends better with pictures, graphs and charts (by the way, just got a very nice timeline laminated map from Kent Hovind). Anyway, looking at the genealogy from Adam living for 930 years, all the patriarch's down to and including Lamech lived during Adam's life time, think of that! The world population would not have been that great and they would not all be scattered all over the continent. It stands to reason that these patriarch's and descendants of Adam had to know him, or at the minimum know of him. The Bible seems to be silent about it, but if their human nature was like mine... I'd definitely be making a bee line to talk to the first created human being created in the image of God ASAP. Wouldn't you think it would be natural to have a million questions you'd like to ask Adam, especially if he was accessible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis1209 Posted September 21, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 17 Topic Count: 347 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,447 Content Per Day: 2.70 Reputation: 5,363 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 49 minutes ago, Yowm said: In that case it was 'Olivetree Enhanced Strong's Dictionary'. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LearningToLetGo Posted September 22, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 37 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 717 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 660 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/21/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted September 22, 2018 16 hours ago, Dennis1209 said: I come out with... Man (is) appointed mortal sorrow, (but) the Blessed God shall come down teaching (that) His death shall bring (the) despairing rest (and) comfort. Credit to the late Dr. Chuck Missler for this discovery. This is an amazing observation! Thank you for pointing this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangel Thyos Posted September 25, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 134 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 22 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/13/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted September 25, 2018 (edited) The word "Name" itself, when used by god, means something more along the lines of "Namesake / Reputation." So when the bible says "thou shalt not take the lord's name in vain," its talking about taking god's namesake with reverence. Edited September 25, 2018 by Archangel Thyos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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