KiwiChristian Posted November 3, 2018 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) No. God loves. God hates. And God hates certain PEOPLE, according to the Bible, not just the sin, but also the sinner. Check out: Edited November 26, 2018 by Steve_S Removed video. Please post videos in the appropriate video forum. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiChristian Posted November 4, 2018 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Share Posted November 4, 2018 "I Loved Jacob, but Esau I Hated" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figure of eighty Posted November 4, 2018 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 243 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,557 Content Per Day: 0.77 Reputation: 872 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted November 4, 2018 I agree with you OP. I think this is another one of those hard truths to swallow. I feel God has a basic concern for everyone like everyone has a certain amount of grace but some are extended more grace. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivingbyFaith Posted November 4, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 25 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 211 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/28/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/06/1970 Share Posted November 4, 2018 JAMES 4:4 You adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore, whoever chooses to be a friend of the world renders himself an enemy of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not me Posted November 4, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 512 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 3,185 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 3,349 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) God is complete in Himself. Never to change. Never to get more or less. All His attributes are eternal and in equal measure in Himself. If hate is put in God, than it could be rightly stated that “His hate saved me”. For if hate is in God. It is in Him as a eternal unchanging characteristic. Never to get more or become less. Would be equal as a quality to His love. Scripture says; Isaiah 27:4 (KJV) Fury [is] not in me: “fury” can also be translated as wrath. Therefore; how could there be a “wrath OF God” yet no “wrath IN God” Answer “wrath” can only be in fallen nature or the creation that has lost its first state of perfection. For wrath is disorder, something that has lost its perfect state of beinging. Therefore since God is perfect and has never and can never lose His state of perfection. Wrath or hate can not be in God. Therefore “wrath” or “hate” only can be manifested in this fallen creation for wrath is a manifestation of disorder. (My thoughts) much love in Christ, Not me Edited November 4, 2018 by Not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremiah1five Posted November 25, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 308 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/25/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 25, 2018 On 10/7/2018 at 8:47 AM, Unfailing Presence said: To make such a case you would need to show an instance where Jesus forced someone to accept Him ? If you can't show Jesus forcing someone to accept Him , you have no biblical support . I didn't say Jesus forced anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremiah1five Posted November 28, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 308 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/25/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 11/3/2018 at 11:40 PM, Figure of eighty said: I agree with you OP. I think this is another one of those hard truths to swallow. I feel God has a basic concern for everyone like everyone has a certain amount of grace but some are extended more grace. Just my opinion. There is no such thing as "more grace" in relation to a person receiving grace. Like the Holy Spirit....one either has the Spirit or they don't (Rom. 8:9). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremiah1five Posted November 28, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 308 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 47 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/25/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 11/4/2018 at 12:48 AM, Not me said: God is complete in Himself. Never to change. Never to get more or less. All His attributes are eternal and in equal measure in Himself. If hate is put in God, than it could be rightly stated that “His hate saved me”. For if hate is in God. It is in Him as a eternal unchanging characteristic. Never to get more or become less. Would be equal as a quality to His love. Scripture says; Isaiah 27:4 (KJV) Fury [is] not in me: “fury” can also be translated as wrath. Therefore; how could there be a “wrath OF God” yet no “wrath IN God” Answer “wrath” can only be in fallen nature or the creation that has lost its first state of perfection. For wrath is disorder, something that has lost its perfect state of beinging. Therefore since God is perfect and has never and can never lose His state of perfection. Wrath or hate can not be in God. Therefore “wrath” or “hate” only can be manifested in this fallen creation for wrath is a manifestation of disorder. (My thoughts) much love in Christ, Not me Context. Those words can only be understood in context to God's people. In other words....the Scripture was written BY God and given TO and FOR His Covenant people ONLY. Read it in this context and come to the knowledge of the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not me Posted November 29, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 512 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 3,185 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 3,349 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted November 29, 2018 13 hours ago, jeremiah1five said: Context. Those words can only be understood in context to God's people. In other words....the Scripture was written BY God and given TO and FOR His Covenant people ONLY. Read it in this context and come to the knowledge of the truth. Scripture says; 1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV) “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.” The natural man coming up with systems, methods, forms for the understanding of the things of God is that that is directly spoken against by the above scripture. For all understanding of the things of God have to be birthed in the believer. (the believer must know and learn them by experience otherwise they only remain ideas in the brain with no reality). For it is only ones personal relationship with Christ that opens up the meaning and intent of the truths of scripture in, and, to the Believer. For anything else is just the natural man using the words of scripture to elevate itself. Much love in Christ, Not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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