Jesusispeace Posted August 14, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 60 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 46 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/06/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2019 7 hours ago, Jostler said: Getting wisdom is begun by recognizing we don't have any. And the first thing we'll run into after we ask ...is fear...holy fear. We can hardly acquire wisdom if we don't know what it is. Proverbs 8 ...most of the chapter, reveals some amazing insights into that....but the bottom line is WE ARE instructed to get wisdom...and it's not the same as knowledge or understanding though both of those are intimately connected to wisdom and cannot be separated from wisdom. Pursuit of wisdom is one of the fundamental things a christian walk should include. So wisdom means to fear the Lord and follow his commandments? it seems like it’s impossible to acquire wisdom as that implies there is an end. A Christian never stops acquiring, that’s my understanding and it will never really stop. i truly don’t understand what it means to “get wisdom” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted August 14, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 25 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.40 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Jesusispeace said: So wisdom means to fear the Lord and follow his commandments? it seems like it’s impossible to acquire wisdom as that implies there is an end. A Christian never stops acquiring, that’s my understanding and it will never really stop. i truly don’t understand what it means to “get wisdom” well...here is a place to start Quote Jas 1:5 ¶ But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and it will be given to him. It's honestly there....just for the asking. Edited August 14, 2019 by Jostler 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesusispeace Posted August 14, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 60 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 46 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/06/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jostler said: well...here is a place to start It's honestly there....just for the asking. THis is know. I ask everyday... it seems like it never happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted August 14, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 25 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.40 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jesusispeace said: THis is know. I ask everyday... it seems like it never happens flesh says "I'll believe it when I see it" Wisdom says "believe ... and you'll see" Read Proverbs 8 and ask Him what it means You may discover Wisdom is a person....that alone can take some chewing to absorb. We all have to do the "work" Quote Jhn 6:29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.” Edited August 14, 2019 by Jostler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GandalfTheWise Posted August 14, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 24 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,459 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 2,377 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/23/2017 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Jesusispeace said: i truly don’t understand what it means to “get wisdom” Knowledge is knowing facts about things. Understanding is knowing the relationships between facts. Wisdom is being able to consistently use and apply knowledge and understanding to actual situations in life in a godly way. In Jesus's day, the Jews had the knowledge of the Law about the Sabbath and specific things that could or could not be done. Jewish scholars over the centuries arrived at an understanding of what it meant to keep the Sabbath and derived principles and rules which extended beyond those things specifically mentioned in the Law. They addressed situations not specifically mentioned in the Law. Then Jesus came along and simply pointed out God created the Sabbath as a blessing for man and not as a heavy weight to be carried. The Sabbath was created for man and not man for the Sabbath. Many Christians mistake knowledge and understanding for wisdom. Christians who have knowledge will quote bible verses. Christians who have some degree of understanding will debate theological points and enforce rules based on knowledge and theology. Christians who have wisdom will encourage and inspire people and speak God's guidance to particular situations in a way that drives positive spiritual change. For those who have wisdom, knowledge and understanding are merely tools and not ends in themselves. Many Christians take James 1:5 as meaning that wisdom is something like a light switch where you either have it or you don't and that it suddenly arrives all at once in answer to prayer. I think there is situational wisdom in which God gives guidance for a particular situation. However, I also think there is a general fruit of wisdom wherein wisdom starts to characterize our very thoughts and attitudes toward people and situations. As far as I can tell, that is something which we need to desire and seek after which God causes to grow in our lives over time. Often wisdom seems to come from asking Why? and not being satisfied with the first answer but learning how to find answers. Asking Why? without knowing how to find answers often leads to a cynical skepticism masquerading as something virtuous. Learning how to ask good questions and learning how to find good answers is a first step toward gaining wisdom. So is figuring out who are wise people to learn from. There is no shortage of people who can dispense knowledge and understanding, but those who dispense wisdom are rarer. There is no shortage of people who give the impression of being wise through fancy talk and sheer confidence and will spout advice at every situation, but there are fewer who can consistently give wise counsel that bears spiritual fruit in the long run. EDIT: I too should add that everything I've written here presupposes that one is walking with God on a consistent basis and growing spiritually. It is the atoning work of Jesus Christ that makes us a new creation and transforms us. To some degree wisdom is a natural result of walking with God. But to some degree, some Christians just seem to be satisfied with knowledge and understanding and never press on to wisdom. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
createdequal Posted September 27, 2019 Group: Catholic Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 591 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 96 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/05/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 27, 2019 On 10/15/2018 at 11:44 AM, Sharky and George said: Dealing with witchcraft Witchcraft is detestable to God and it hurts kids and breaks up relationships. It makes God furious (Jesus), it ruins peoples lives (Others) and it steals your soul (You). It hurts the JOY in this world and I hate it with a passion. How to defend yourself: - Praise Jesus. Praise is the highest level of faith. - The original Church teaches that the highest prayer is the Holy Mass. of course, one cannot always go to Mass in the middle of a demonic attack. I find the rosary works well.. saying the name of Jesus over and over works 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVID5 Posted November 8, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 1 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 157 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/02/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) YES THEY BETTER HURRY UP AND REPENT,TO JESUS.TIME IS RUNNING OUT,,,AMEN,,, Edited December 20, 2019 by DAVID5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky and George Posted November 11, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 168 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 394 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 197 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/26/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/28/1983 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 I should have said that witchcraft makes God furious as He loves us so much and wants to protect us from it. I read in a CS Lewis book the other day that the enemy aims to give people nastier temptations with less pleasure as he works on you over time. So basicly over time you turn into a zombie. Proverbs 4:18-19 The path of the righteous is like the first light of dawn shining ever brighter till the full light of day but the path of the wicked is like deep darkness and they dont even know what they stumble over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted November 11, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.24 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2019 Study the book of Proverbs. It is packed with wisdom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Child Posted November 11, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 40 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 27 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/09/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 8/13/2019 at 7:54 AM, BeauJangles said: It's not surprising how this topic ended with little interaction. It didn't open with a lot of wisdom to begin with. Maybe you could enlighten him then with some help. How was your comment more helpful than his? He put something out there that he believes with a passion to start a discussion. Did he claim to have all the answers or that he was trying to teach this session? Imho your comment came off rather condescending 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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