Neighbor Posted October 25, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 950 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,524 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 9,025 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) Well they are going to be in the USA soon regardless of emotions one way or another- They're here! Nancy Pelosi said some time back; there is no one to make our beds, hotels need staffing, and the grapes they need tending. Seems arrogant, but ya know there isn't any low skill work force even at near $15 an hour to tend the crops. So what to do? Plus there is real need of educated or trainable workers everywhere. This country desperately needs new blood to replace the old that did not procreate as it should have. Is this it the new blood needed? Probably not, but maybe it will have to do. Might like to say; hey how about busing them all the way to San Francisco provide them with lots porta-potties, outdoor showers, and teach them to say Nancy Nancy Nancy? Just let Nancy invite them to her vineyards, or just give them maps and a comfortable ride to San Jose with a box lunch, and let California celebrate their arrival. It will be good. But; that isn't going to work, nor is it our own commision is it? The idea that they will not blend like the old European immigrants did may not hold up to scrutiny either. Old Europeans still have, as just one example, their clubs of separation like Italian American clubs. They still live in city and even burbs ghettos, and many will not associate with any but their own kind. Same with other groups. They do form ghettos,- or in the burbs we call them home owner associations where we associate only with our own kind too. Back in the old days at Los Angeles I used to track the movement of the various ghettos ( for sales purposes). The ghettos slowly move about, one group displacing another. What is a real problem is disease!!!- both for the native population and the immigrant, illegal or legal. Going to be a hard time to adjust to for all real soon, but a great opportunity to decide if one is an evangelist or not. Go into all the world it seems is now turning about to- all the world is coming - instead. Is your own local body of Christ prepared to share the gospel in many languages and dialects? How many translaters does yours have? How many classes to teach English as a second language has yours set up? - all in order to give testimony of our Lord Jesus and to share the gospel the saving grace and mercy of God through our Lord Jesus, plus to participate as good neighbors in the community helping one another. Think the churches of satan's minions are not setting up to aid the incoming hoards? They are, and so must the saints if we are to spread the gopel of Jesus. Doesn't matter my politics,- it is just the way it is. This is bigger than politics. This is spiritual warfare being fought out. There needs be spiritual armor put on, prayer, word of God, physical aid all in the name of our Lord for God's glory! Not so that we remain Americans as we think we may know Euro-USA today. The USA has changed - seriously changed; we are Asian, we are Pacific Islanders, we are African, we are Latin American. It is hard! But it is also glorious opportunity to prepare for our Lord's return by tending to the many sheep, bringing them into the fold, nurturing and loving in the name of Jesus, even by simply sharing a cool cup of water in His name. And yes even a M13 member can be evangelized, tough to do, tougher than is in me, but with the Holy Spirit turning about one by one all that now do not know Jesus as Lord God and personal savior, can be witnessed to and some turned by the Holy Spirit to repentance. It has been done, it is being done, it will be done. Please join together, in prayer often daily, include these immigrants needs, and in reading the Bible, in sharing and in assisting those in the front lines, missionaries both at home and in these lands where people are fleeeing for whatever reason. Do not be like the unsaved world. Do not just wall up and barricade the evidence of the mercy of God, and this abundant land of kind people. Help the desperate instead. Pray for everyone of them as though they are ours- for many are and many more will be. Some will become our own great grandchildren. Do not make as legacy the story that the USA rejected or tried to reject our own generations yet to come. Instead welcome many into the family and praise God for the opportunity to share of Him. Give as the poorest church gave to those at Jerusalem so long ago. Let their example be our guidance today. Edited October 25, 2018 by Neighbor spelling and punctuation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 29 minutes ago, shiloh357 said: burning the US flag, calling Trump the Antichrist and putting their middle finger up as they burn our flag. Those are not asylum seekers. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Neighbor said: Well they are going to be in the USA soon regardless of emotions one way or another- They're here! This group is coming in. Quote Nancy Pelosi said some time back; there is no one to make our beds, hotels need staffing, and the grapes they need tending. Seems arrogant, but ya know there isn't any low skill work force even at near $15 an hour to tend the crops. So what to do? Plus there is real need of educated or trainable workers everywhere. This country desperately needs new blood to replace the old that did not procreate as it should have. Illegals are not a good source for a workforce. Americans are not going to work for scraps. They are not going to break their backs for what the employers who want low cost tax free labor want to pay. It's not that Americans won't do those jobs; Americans won't do those jobs for peanuts. Quote Is this it the new blood needed? Probably not, but maybe it will have to do. Might like to say; hey how about busing them all the way to San Francisco provide them with lots porta-potties, outdoor showers, and teach them to say Nancy Nancy Nancy? Just let Nancy invite them to her vineyards, or just give them maps and a comfortable ride to San Jose with a box lunch, and let California celebrate their arrival. It will be good. But; that isn't going to work, nor is it our own commision is it? The job of the American government is to protect our borders from hordes just like this who don't intend to anything except live off of the American taxpayer. We don't need them here and most people don't want them here. It is not fair to the legal immigrants who followed the rules to become real Americans. Quote The idea that they will not blend like the old European immigrants did may not hold up to scrutiny either. Old Europeans still have, as just one example, their clubs of separation like Italian American clubs. They still live in city and even burbs ghettos, and many will not associate with any but their own kind. Same with other groups. They do form ghettos,- or in the burbs we call them home owner associations where we associate only with our own kind too. Blending in doesn't mean losing their ethnic identity or having their clubs. Blending in means they become Americans, that they are now Americans before they are... whatever they came here from. It means that THIS is their country and this country is who they owe allegiance too, not the old country. Quote What is a real problem is disease!!!- both for the native population and the immigrant, illegal or legal. Going to be a hard time to adjust to for all real soon, but a great opportunity to decide if one is an evangelist or not. Being an evangelist doesn't mean subjecting our country to pandemics from foreign invaders who show up and expect us to simply hand over the goods they came here for. Quote Is your own local body of Christ prepared to share the gospel in many languages and dialects? How many translaters does yours have? How many classes to teach English as a second language has yours set up? - all in order to give testimony of our Lord Jesus and to share the gospel the saving grace and mercy of God through our Lord Jesus, plus to participate as good neighbors in the community helping one another. Lot's churches are, but you are really naïve if you think that churches are anywhere near prepared for what is trying to get in. But no worries, they are not gong to get in. Quote Think the churches of satan's minions are not setting up to aid the incoming hoards? LOL I seriously doubt it. Quote This is bigger than politics. This is spiritual warfare being fought out. There needs be spiritual armor put on, prayer, word of God, physical aid all in the name of our Lord for God's glory! Not so that we remain Americans as we think we may know Euro-USA today. The USA has changed - seriously changed; we are Asian, we are Pacific Islanders, we are African, we are Latin American. It is hard! But it is also glorious opportunity to prepare for our Lord's return by tending to the many sheep, bringing them into the fold, nurturing and loving in the name of Jesus, even by simply sharing a cool cup of water in His name. I hate burst your ideological bubble, but politics is exactly what this is. This is an invasion that has been bought and paid for by those who want to turn the US into Venezuela. These hordes bring crime, disease, drugs and human sex trafficking into this country and they are not going to get in. We cannot absorb this endless flows of illegal aliens who are coming in who think they can simply break our laws and destroy what we have built and just leech off of the American taxpayer. Quote Please join together, in prayer often daily, include these immigrants needs, and in reading the Bible, in sharing and in assisting those in the front lines, missionaries both at home and in these lands where people are fleeeing for whatever reason. They are not "immigrants" and they are not "fleeing" anything. They are illegal aliens, they are law breakers and they are coming to take what is ours and they are not going to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Badjao33 said: Source? https://thepoliticalinsider.com/migrants-trump-anti-christ/ http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/hondurans-burn-the-american-flag-as-7000-migrants-march-to-assault-the-us-border-women-and-children-conspicuously-absent/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 19 hours ago, shiloh357 said: http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/hondurans-burn-the-american-flag-as-7000-migrants-march-to-assault-the-us-border-women-and-children-conspicuously-absent/ I was able to find the source of the picture in this article and it's not members of the caravan who are burning the flag. This was from a protest in front of the US embassy in Honduras where they were not only protesting President Trump, but also their own leader for creating the problems that lead to the caravan. They don't hate America, they dislike the current president and his current policies. IN HONDURAS, A MARCH WAS HELD TO SUPPORT THE CARAVAN OF MIGRANTS. Citizens from all walks of life also walked to express their rejection of their government and against US President Donald Trump. The torches of protest were seen again in the Honduran capital. This time they expressed their rejection of Trump's xenophobia and the direct responsibility of Juan Orlando Hernández, in the exodus of Hondurans to the United States. The mobilization reached the outskirts of the US embassy in Tegucigalpa, where Hondurans burned the flag of that northern country and called for the expulsion of the diplomatic representative in Honduras. Despite the media siege imposed by the Honduran government, the population continues to support the migrant caravan and does not accept the official discourse. The Hondurans arrived near the American embassy, for considering Trump responsible for the migration of their fellow citizens, for having illegally Juan Orlando in power. https://es.news-front.info/2018/10/20/en-honduras-se-realizo-una-marcha-de-apoyo-a-la-caravana-de-migrantes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristin Posted October 26, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 875 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 757 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/04/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted October 26, 2018 I see it as an invasion. It is not cheap to drag yourself and others all the way through Mexico. Why not stay in Mexico if their country is so terrible? Common language and culture. No, they want all the free offerings we, for some reason, give to illegals and such instead of our own citizens. And never the taxpayer. It’s like we are fools for working hard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 6 hours ago, Badjao33 said: I was able to find the source of the picture in this article and it's not members of the caravan who are burning the flag. Doesn't matter. The stories of this have been reported on broadcast news. This article used a different photo. But the story is still true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 hours ago, shiloh357 said: Doesn't matter. The stories of this have been reported on broadcast news. This article used a different photo. But the story is still true. Reporters embedded with the caravan haven't reported any American flags being burned and since there is no video or photographs showing this to be found, and only stories of flag burnings being debunked, until evidence shows otherwise, I'm not going to accuse this group of doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 52 minutes ago, Davida said: This is a political invasion that has been organized by another party , it is not a natural grassroots phenomena. These is a political invasion meant to cause Trump problems and they are probably hoping for some incident. This Trump needs to stop these invaders because there is going to be others, and he needs to amass soldiers and facilities at the border to deal with this swiftly and with precision. They need to stopped and sent back. We don't need them nor want them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 9 hours ago, Badjao33 said: Reporters embedded with the caravan haven't reported any American flags being burned and since there is no video or photographs showing this to be found, and only stories of flag burnings being debunked, until evidence shows otherwise, I'm not going to accuse this group of doing that. I have seen the reports so I will accuse them of it. They are nothing but free loaders coming here to live off of the taxpayer. We don't want them and we don't need them and they don't belong here. I am not here to convince you of anything, so I don't care where you stand on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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