frienduff thaylorde Posted October 31, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, Butero said: Hermeneutics is a pagan system of interpreting literature, named after the idol god Hermes. Don't use pagan methods to interpret the Bible. It leads to serious error! If it seems good unto man to learn of men , JUDGE YE , but as for me , I WILL RELY on the ONLY ONE NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND THE WORD OF GOD , THE SPIRIT . SEE how simple that is butero . Yet watch how mocked it is . THEY can keep they hermeneutics , I seen the damage it has done . AS FOR ME , I WILL SPEAK by the SPIRIT , for the SPIRIT WORD FATHER are one . AND THE SPIRIT is all one needs to UNDERSTAND the WORD . GOD GIVES UNDERSTANDING to little children , but makes foolish the wisdom of men . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted October 31, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,064 Content Per Day: 7.97 Reputation: 21,391 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said: Well you loved gary , but here is a simple truth any child of GOD can love , adore , wear , its a promise , from one who Lies NOT but is absolute truth . WORRY not what you shall say , FOR I WILL GIVE YOU A MOUTH . YEP , just rely , trust , adore and wear every promise of the LORD , and just speak as the SPIRIT leads . NOW HOW BOUT A DEEP AND HEARTY PRAISE TO GOD . Go on , GARY , you know you want to leap up and PRAISE the LORD . This is a good place to start … when was this said and to whom and what was the surrounding circumstances! As what has been stated as a today thing ( If I understand correctly ) your post is incorrect according to the intent of the Scripture: Mark 13:11 11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. KJV This was specific to His Disciples for the New Testament was being formed through them and was not yet put in place as a guide by which The Holy Spirit would instruct us through the objective format of His written Word... Now presently we have that completed work and by study, memorization of we can speak as it is written to others... for with it we have the promise of God in doing so 2 Tim 3:15-17 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. KJV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted October 31, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,064 Content Per Day: 7.97 Reputation: 21,391 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Butero said: Hermeneutics is a pagan system of interpreting literature, named after the idol god Hermes. Don't use pagan methods to interpret the Bible. It leads to serious error! This without substance and is without source of reality... hermeneutics is also known as a science of contextualizing of literary analysis. All written material is and must be done in this fashion or you have mystic what ever I feel stuff~ subjective without any objectivity what so ever... I feel, I think, could be is all fair game in this approach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted October 31, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted October 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, enoob57 said: This is a good place to start … when was this said and to whom and what was the surrounding circumstances! As what has been stated as a today thing ( If I understand correctly ) your post is incorrect according to the intent of the Scripture: Mark 13:11 11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. KJV This was specific to His Disciples for the New Testament was being formed through them and was not yet put in place as a guide by which The Holy Spirit would instruct us through the objective format of His written Word... Now presently we have that completed work and by study, memorization of we can speak as it is written to others... for with it we have the promise of God in doing so 2 Tim 3:15-17 15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. KJV THAT APPLIES to all beleivers . But go and learn what that means . Me no strive over this , because ONLY GOD can give the increase . AKA, all I got to do is warn once or twice . ITS UP TO YOU whether you reiceve it or not . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butero Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, enoob57 said: This without substance and is without source of reality... hermeneutics is also known as a science of contextualizing of literary analysis. All written material is and must be done in this fashion or you have mystic what ever I feel stuff~ subjective without any objectivity what so ever... I feel, I think, could be is all fair game in this approach. Look up the history of hermeneutics yourself. Also notice there are different kinds of hermeneutics: figurative and literal. It doesn't work for scripture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted October 31, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,064 Content Per Day: 7.97 Reputation: 21,391 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 Just now, Butero said: Look up the history of hermeneutics yourself. Also notice there are different kinds of hermeneutics: figurative and literal. It doesn't work for scripture. anyone may say anything here and there about anything... the world is filled with lies! However God tells us His Creative Word and His Written Word are in Him likeness... that is why The Lord used parables to proclaim truths both are born out from His Word. Thus subjective reasoning does not work in the area of Creation or His Written Word... there are a whole bunch of people out there that shuns study of God's Word and claim the Scripture that frienduff… quoted. That is in direct conflict where God tells us to study to show ourselves approved! I mean really -greek gods were not even real so to say hermeneutics came from them should be easily seen as a false premise even at the start... but for sake of the semantics let's use contextual literary analysis from here on out... I have no affection for the word hermeneutics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted October 31, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,064 Content Per Day: 7.97 Reputation: 21,391 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said: THAT APPLIES to all beleivers . But go and learn what that means . Me no strive over this , because ONLY GOD can give the increase . AKA, all I got to do is warn once or twice . ITS UP TO YOU whether you reiceve it or not . If you rip it from it's context then it becomes the pretext of what you are saying... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Butero Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, enoob57 said: anyone may say anything here and there about anything... the world is filled with lies! However God tells us His Creative Word and His Written Word are in Him likeness... that is why The Lord used parables to proclaim truths both are born out from His Word. Thus subjective reasoning does not work in the area of Creation or His Written Word... there are a whole bunch of people out there that shuns study of God's Word and claim the Scripture that frienduff… quoted. That is in direct conflict where God tells us to study to show ourselves approved! I mean really -greek gods were not even real so to say hermeneutics came from them should be easily seen as a false premise even at the start... but for sake of the semantics let's use contextual literary analysis from here on out... I have no affection for the word hermeneutics This system has the spirit of Hermes behind it, and there are different rules the old trickster uses. You could say it creates doctrines of Hermes. There are demonic spirits involved in idol worship, even if the idols aren't real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted October 31, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,064 Content Per Day: 7.97 Reputation: 21,391 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 14 minutes ago, Butero said: Look up the history of hermeneutics yourself. Also notice there are different kinds of hermeneutics: figurative and literal. It doesn't work for scripture. You know as well as all else -where you have truth you have the potential for lies... but the wisdom comes from the fact truth must first be before the lie can exist! It is in this reality that we can determine the s _Spiritual persuasion of anything: Does it lead me to the things created or does it lead me to The Creator... satan is not so foolish to lead us to The Creator and herein his weakness of power is seen and understood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted October 31, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,064 Content Per Day: 7.97 Reputation: 21,391 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Butero said: This system has the spirit of Hermes behind it, and there are different rules the old trickster uses. You could say it creates doctrines of Hermes. There are demonic spirits involved in idol worship, even if the idols aren't real. I find it disconcerting that the objective study of God's Word is deciphered by you as of the devil and demonic... you will simply have to deal with this in your own heart. How do you think theology is arrived at anyway? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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