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Apostle John saw two groups of people in heaven

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FIRST GROUP : The great multitude before the Throne, THEY ARE NOT SOULS but living people.

Rev 7: 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands 14.....these are they which came out of great tribulation 16... They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more.

 

SECOND GROUP : SOULS under the Altar, waiting for their fellows.

Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

THOSE SOULS MUST WAIT UNTIL THEIR FELLOWS/TRIBULATION SAINTS ARE ALSO MARTYRED IN THE 7 YEARS TRIBULATION OF THE WORLD.

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

So we will belong to one of these 3 groups of people in the grief tribulation :

-Those who are raptured alive to heaven as the 1st group

-To be martyred in the tribulation if refuse to worship the beast and their souls to be gathered under the Altar

-To worship the beast like the rest of the world in the grief tribulation.

 

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4 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

So we will belong to one of these 3 groups of people in the grief tribulation :

The Grief Tribulation - is this the title of a book we should know about?

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1 minute ago, Michael37 said:

The Grief Tribulation - is this the title of a book we should know about?

Sorry i dont understand what book do you mean.

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1 minute ago, R. Hartono said:

Sorry i dont understand what book do you mean.

 

12 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

So we will belong to one of these 3 groups of people in the grief tribulation :

-Those who are raptured alive to heaven as the 1st group

-To be martyred in the tribulation if refuse to worship the beast and their souls to be gathered under the Altar

-To worship the beast like the rest of the world in the grief tribulation.

Are you serious? 

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3 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

 

Are you serious? 

Yes, better suffer the burden of the cross of Jesus now than get along with the world to worship the beast in the tribulation.

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1 minute ago, R. Hartono said:

Yes, better suffer the burden of the cross of Jesus now than get along with the world to worship the beast in the tribulation.

GREAT TRIBULATION - GREAT not GRIEF -Best you check the meanings of great versus grief, R.H. Sorry for my dig if English is not your first language.

Mat 24:21
(21)  For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.


Rev 7:14
(14)  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
 

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