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"But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day". - 2 Peter 3:8 

This is not a direct mathematical formula, actually it could be saying exactly the opposite. Where we get a thousand years equals a day might be erroneous. This scripture sounds like a discussion about the relativity of time. How long should a "day" be to an infinite mind? 

In the creation story God is viewing the earth as a potential contained within the formless mass at hand, only the mind of God can penetrate to this image.

Example: Seven days of creation(time is relative to observer):

0) Nebula

1) Sun and planet formation

2) Atmospheric stratification

3) Water world forming volcanic plates and vegetation forms

4) The clearing of the atmosphere

5) Aquatic life and dinosaurs are formed

6) Mammals are formed

7) The earth is finished and ready for Man

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1 hour ago, Scott Free said:

"But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day". - 2 Peter 3:8 

This is not a direct mathematical formula, actually it could be saying exactly the opposite. Where we get a thousand years equals a day might be erroneous. This scripture sounds like a discussion about the relativity of time. How long should a "day" be to an infinite mind? 

God is viewing the earth as a potential contained within the formless mass at hand, only the mind of God can penetrate to this image.

Example: Seven days of creation(time is relative to observer):

0) Nebula

1) Sun and planet formation

2) Atmospheric stratification

3) Water world forming volcanic plates and vegetation forms

4) The clearing of the atmosphere

5) Aquatic life and dinosaurs are formed

6) Mammals are formed

7) The earth is finished and ready for Man

Are you by any chance implying that "God used evolution"?

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5 hours ago, Scott Free said:

"But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day". - 2 Peter 3:8 

This is not a direct mathematical formula, actually it could be saying exactly the opposite. Where we get a thousand years equals a day might be erroneous. This scripture sounds like a discussion about the relativity of time. How long should a "day" be to an infinite mind? 

I don't know a whole lot of people who believe that 2 Peter 3:8 is talking about an algorithm - in terms of relation to or independence of anything else.

Peter is quoting Psalm 90:4 where Moses, [yes, Moses] was writing about how God's eternal nature is part of what makes him so sovereign and he expresses the"eternalness" of God all through that particular psalm.

Peter is using that verse to teach that God doesn't count things as fast or slow as we do in terms of the return of Christ.  This paragraph from Peter is not about creation or anything scientific in nature.  It's about why God has allowed much time [in our eyes] to pass before what we call the "end of time".

This verse and passage in context is reiterating that God desires all people to be saved and his timetable about wrapping things up is not our timetable nor is his reasoning our reasoning.

"But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up." 

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6 hours ago, Scott Free said:

"But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day". - 2 Peter 3:8 

This is not a direct mathematical formula, actually it could be saying exactly the opposite. Where we get a thousand years equals a day might be erroneous. This scripture sounds like a discussion about the relativity of time. How long should a "day" be to an infinite mind? 

God is viewing the earth as a potential contained within the formless mass at hand, only the mind of God can penetrate to this image.

Example: Seven days of creation(time is relative to observer):

0) Nebula

1) Sun and planet formation

2) Atmospheric stratification

3) Water world forming volcanic plates and vegetation forms

4) The clearing of the atmosphere

5) Aquatic life and dinosaurs are formed

6) Mammals are formed

7) The earth is finished and ready for Man

Psalms 90:4 (ESV2011)
For a thousand years in your sight are but as yesterday when it is past, or as a watch in the night.

Revelation 8:1 (ESV2011)
When the Lamb opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour.

Also, your order of creation doesn't match the word of God in Genesis 1. You've mixed it all up. For instance, the sun wasn't created until day four.

Stick to the word of God and you won't have any issues.

 

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Jayne said:

I don't know a whole lot of people who believe that 2 Peter 3:8 is talking about an algorithm

Thankyou for sharing that. The majority of Christians do not believe in this interpretation of creation. Both sides, Creationist and Evolutionist are only half truths. The reality of Gods ways are more astounding than the presented contemplation's of either side.

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2 minutes ago, Abdicate said:

For instance, the sun wasn't created until day four

If the Sun was created on day four, how did the vegetation of day three survive the dark frigid cold? Day four comes after the intense volcanic activity that would be necessary to create land mass above sea level. And after day two were the Earth would have a shallower and denser moister laden atmosphere before the influx of massive volumes of carbon dioxide from the land formation introduced on day three.

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22 hours ago, Scott Free said:

If the Sun was created on day four, how did the vegetation of day three survive the dark frigid cold? Day four comes after the intense volcanic activity that would be necessary to create land mass above sea level. And after day two were the Earth would have a shallower and denser moister laden atmosphere before the influx of massive volumes of carbon dioxide from the land formation introduced on day three.

It's what the word of God says. You're extrapolating from what man has told you rather than believing the word of God. You're problem is with God, not me.

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On ‎11‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 11:29 AM, Scott Free said:

If the Sun was created on day four, how did the vegetation of day three survive the dark frigid cold? 

It wasn't dark nor frigid.  There was a light and heat source beginning on day 1.  That was the first thing created for the earth.

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3 hours ago, Abdicate said:

extrapolating from what man has told you

I think equating one day to a thousand years is an opinion and should be presented as such. The whole line of reasoning is devoid of the blessed hope of the return of Jesus Christ and creates too much quarrel with the unsaved. Presenting personal speculation as the Word of God is more in line with a cult like following than devotion to our Lord Jesus Christ.  

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On ‎11‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 4:09 AM, Scott Free said:

"But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day". - 2 Peter 3:8 

This is not a direct mathematical formula, actually it could be saying exactly the opposite. Where we get a thousand years equals a day might be erroneous. This scripture sounds like a discussion about the relativity of time. How long should a "day" be to an infinite mind? 

In the creation story God is viewing the earth as a potential contained within the formless mass at hand, only the mind of God can penetrate to this image.

Example: Seven days of creation(time is relative to observer):

0) Nebula

1) Sun and planet formation

2) Atmospheric stratification

3) Water world forming volcanic plates and vegetation forms

4) The clearing of the atmosphere

5) Aquatic life and dinosaurs are formed

6) Mammals are formed

7) The earth is finished and ready for Man

II Peter 3:8  is simply stating, in reference to mockers about the 2nd coming  of Christ, that God does not operate on man's time table and that they misinterpret the delay in Jesus' coming as meaning that God is slow in keeping His promise.   Evidently, the mockers and scoffers were making fun of the early believers' urgent belief in Jesus' second coming.

It is not addressing the creation issue at all. 

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