Diaste Posted January 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,624 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,366 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Online Share Posted January 7, 2019 20 hours ago, Littlelambseativy said: If you cannot buy, sell, have no money, are hungry for days on end ... or your child is starving..what will you do? No water, no juice, no food as we have seen in the stores when hurricanes are coming, what will you do? This is 7 years we are told. Will you no do anything to survive? If you have money and can buy others will attempt or successfully kill you...no gas for the car...where will you hide? The tribulation is worse than WW2. That is why Jesus will take the believers faithful to Him away from the horror of a time like no other. you are not being realistic but very idealistic about that time. This is exactly what I mean. People will be desperate to save their lives. Its not the mark or worshipping the image that condemns, its the decision of the heart and mind, the mark and image are just symbols, and the heart and mind can change. Condemnation of anyone is not our place. Mercy, kindness, forgiveness is ours to accept and the Most High extends that to everyone as long as they repent, that is open right to the moment of physical death. You would rejoice if a murderer came to the saving grace of our Father. The possible repentance of people at the end of the age is time of rejoicing in the power and glory of our Savior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted January 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,624 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,366 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Online Share Posted January 7, 2019 13 hours ago, Littlelambseativy said: You forget, the born again will be with Jesus in heaven. Only after GT, not before. 13 hours ago, Littlelambseativy said: Those who denied Him will have to make the choice to follow the Antichrist and take the Chip or die. No brainer... As will we all if we dont pass before the time. 13 hours ago, Littlelambseativy said: you think life will proceed as it is now...imagine all Christians gone...what is left? Anarchy and the Antichrist. I think no such thing. The 'left behind' is not accurate. A huge group of saints come from out of the midst of GT. Chances are 'christians' will accept the mark as their pretrib rapture did not occur and they will fear for their lives. The Elect will never accept the mark. I hope and pray any 'christian' who takes the mark will repent and find forgiveness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted January 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Diaste said: And do you know for a fact neither Adam nor Eve repented and found forgiveness? What about us? Before we came to Christ we were not considered righteous. If we were found guilty of theft then we had sin in us. If were were guilty of one we were guilty of all, including making graven images and bending the knee to the image. We were forgiven, why not others? God's mercy is FOREVER. I did not say they were not forgiven but God removed them from Eden. They were punished for not following God’s instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted January 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,624 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,366 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Online Share Posted January 7, 2019 22 hours ago, Mystic_Pizza said: I wouldn't touch something like that, and possibly be responsible for causing others to do something that could - very possibly - condemn them. If i understand, your thought process is; you would feel personally responsible if you told someone there was the possibility of repentance after accepting the mark and/or worshipping the image, and in fact there was not, but that person you told accepted the mark hoping later to quickly repent when the time was right. Yeah, if you said so knowing it was wrong. Would you feel as personally responsible if you failed to tell a person the truth when that knowledge could be a possibility for salvation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted January 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2019 God told Noah to build an Ark. He was mocked and not believed by his neighbours or friends. When God closed the Ark Door and the rain came and people cried to be let in did God open the door to the Ark to save them? God honours His Word. He does not change nor does He change His mind. You are attempting to humanize Him. It will not work. When the rapture takes place and people are being beheaded for not accepting the mark and beg for forgiveness, God accepts them. But they had a chance to be with Jesus all that time and not endure the horrors yet chose not to follow Him. Just like those who drowned, left outside the ark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted January 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,624 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,366 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Online Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Littlelambseativy said: I did not say they were not forgiven but God removed them from Eden. They were punished for not following God’s instructions. It seemed to be implied. But that wasnt the point. You and I have been forgiven for violating every commandment, including the graven images thing. How could any group be excluded from forgiveness for the same thing of which we are guilty? Not saying this group would turn from their ways either individually or corporately, but the opportunity does exist. For God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted January 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,624 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,366 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Online Share Posted January 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Littlelambseativy said: God told Noah to build an Ark. He was mocked and not believed by his neighbours or friends. When God closed the Ark Door and the rain came and people cried to be let in did God open the door to the Ark to save them? God honours His Word. He does not change nor does He change His mind. You are attempting to humanize Him. It will not work. When the rapture takes place and people are being beheaded for not accepting the mark and beg for forgiveness, God accepts them. But they had a chance to be with Jesus all that time and not endure the horrors yet chose not to follow Him. Just like those who drowned, left outside the ark. A terrible analogy as the flood was the moment of wrath, GT is persecution; they do not equate. Look to the three angels in Rev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted January 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,624 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,366 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Online Share Posted January 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, Littlelambseativy said: You are attempting to humanize Him. Well, yes and no. Jesus is flesh, God is Spirit. And aren't we most grateful Jesus bled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted January 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, Diaste said: A terrible analogy as the flood was the moment of wrath, GT is persecution; they do not equate. Look to the three angels in Rev. And you think this not God’s wrath on those who did not accept God’s grace in the salvation offered by Jesus’ sacrifice but chose God’s enemy instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted January 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,624 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,366 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Online Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Littlelambseativy said: And you think this not God’s wrath on those who did not accept God’s grace in the salvation offered by Jesus’ sacrifice but chose God’s enemy instead? GT is not. GT is for the people of God when the test of the mark and worship of the image will try us by fire. Wrath is only for the enemies, not errant children like you and I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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