bhforlife Posted November 13, 2018 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 61 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 59 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 13, 2018 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2261265604160176&id=2096334327319972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted November 13, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,072 Content Per Day: 7.97 Reputation: 21,398 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I do not agree with the Pentecostal beginning of early 1900's no! But I understand the spirit of it- as in time 'end of days' this must occur Matt 24:24-26 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. KJV therefore there must be a preparatory aspect for this... as we know since the early 1900's the Daniel identification has occurred Dan 12:4 4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. KJV as there is no doubt of this being true so also the signs and miracle things should be of the persuasion during this time... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK1110 Posted November 13, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 6,858 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 9,583 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/18/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/10/1986 Share Posted November 13, 2018 My pastor speaks on this once a year or every other year it seems. He always points out that when Paul commanded for husbands to love their wives and wives to submit to their husbands, that the same original text word is used for "love" and "submit" but is translated into those two words to help convey the chief needs of men and women. But in both cases, the Bible is clear that submission to one another, I.E. putting the other's needs and considerations first and foremost ahead of your own, is not only not bad, but is necessary. It's commanded, not suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted November 13, 2018 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, BK1110 said: My pastor speaks on this once a year or every other year it seems. He always points out that when Paul commanded for husbands to love their wives and wives to submit to their husbands, that the same original text word is used for "love" and "submit" but is translated into those two words to help convey the chief needs of men and women. But in both cases, the Bible is clear that submission to one another, I.E. putting the other's needs and considerations first and foremost ahead of your own, is not only not bad, but is necessary. It's commanded, not suggested. That's interesting, because they are not the same words. Agapao is the word used for love and Hupotasso is the word used for submit. They are definitely different words with different meanings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted November 13, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,047 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,792 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 13, 2018 If a husband loves his wife with the intensity that Jesus loved the Church, why in the world would the wife not be submissive to her husband.... when the husband does not love his wife as Jesus did the Church I think she can just tell him to stick it in his ear when disagreements come up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted December 13, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,626 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,366 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 11/13/2018 at 4:11 PM, other one said: If a husband loves his wife with the intensity that Jesus loved the Church, why in the world would the wife not be submissive to her husband.... when the husband does not love his wife as Jesus did the Church I think she can just tell him to stick it in his ear when disagreements come up.... Well, i heard that love is patient, kind, long sufferring, apt to listen, etc, love IS, in spite of anothers behavior. Im not sure a subjective standard should be used for determining depth, or existence, of love. Its certainly not love to tell ones most intimate partner to 'stick it in your ear'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted December 14, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,047 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,792 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted December 14, 2018 14 hours ago, Diaste said: Well, i heard that love is patient, kind, long sufferring, apt to listen, etc, love IS, in spite of anothers behavior. Im not sure a subjective standard should be used for determining depth, or existence, of love. Its certainly not love to tell ones most intimate partner to 'stick it in your ear'. the Greek word that is used for love in this instance is the Greek word used for the Love that God loved us when ha agreed to die for us..... it goes on to explain that we should love our wives as he loved the church..... that's pretty determining from my viewpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted December 14, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.34 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted December 14, 2018 My wife read "The Submissive Wife" and practices it. I also submit to her but in different ways. We've been married almost 21 years and it only grows stronger. Men and women are physiologically different. God designed them for different roles. Sure, they can both do most of the same things, but men do some things better and women do other things better. Also, men WANT to do the things they do better and women WANT to do the things they do better. When you feminize men and masculize women, they both end up being miserable. It's why feminists are always so testy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted December 14, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.34 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 11/13/2018 at 4:14 PM, Steve_S said: That's interesting, because they are not the same words. Agapao is the word used for love and Hupotasso is the word used for submit. They are definitely different words with different meanings. You need to read it in the original French. I'm with you on this. We have to test what pastors tell us from the pulpit, especially when they get into the weeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uber Genius Posted December 14, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 36 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 657 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 244 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted December 14, 2018 Enjoyed the teaching. Thought it was spot-on. My Father-in-law once asked where that passage was that said a wife should submit to her husband (his wife was a gem and he was a (can't use the appropriate descripture here), I whispered to him that he didn't want to quote that verse because the context was that Husbands lead by serving their wives in as dramatic a fashion as Christ dying on the cross for our sins. He got the message, and since he was not about to start serving his wife, let the conversation die there. This is an easy message intellectually. Living it is difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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