R. Hartono Posted November 22, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 770 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,929 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) A pastor turned water into wine, making money appear and multiplying money in the wallet. See youtube video with this title : Shocking Miracle!!!! Water Turned into wine!! History has been repeated www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWKHMJ5Vv9A Unbelieveable Miracle ..By faith money multiplies in members hands instantly www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdXnZv8f5Ss Edited November 23, 2018 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah_ Posted November 22, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 790 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 878 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2018 Looks like 100% showmanship to me. God is not a cash machine. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted November 22, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 770 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,929 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 30 minutes ago, Deborah_ said: Looks like 100% showmanship to me. God is not a cash machine. Is this a magic show ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah_ Posted November 22, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 790 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 878 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted November 22, 2018 32 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: Is this a magic show ? He uses some of the same techniques, and a fair bit of crowd psychology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted November 22, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,058 Content Per Day: 7.97 Reputation: 21,388 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Only those who are looking for such will get caught in the deception... I didn't even bother to look Matt 24:24-26 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. KJV 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithbuilders Posted November 22, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 235 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 166 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/20/1972 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I started to watch, then stopped, we can not place God in a box, and there is a chance, all tho very slim that God would show off as a sign of His power; He has done it before. That being said, however, I doubt that this is one of those. I only watched the so-called wine video; the money one I did not watch. God does multiply the seed of the of the giver... I just have to ask, who IS getting the glory here? It least the water in the bottle could have turned red... lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted November 22, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted November 22, 2018 IF so called money just appears in hands , THEN WHY THEY ALWAYS ASKNG GIVE ME GIVE ME GIVE ME . This love o money and crafity show mans ship aint new at all in the churches . IF by faith money could just appear in hands , then why was paul asking the church for SUPPORT to those who were under distress. I mean this has gotta cease . But I have heard some wicked things said in this prosperity machine . And folks DARE to follow such men . Here is one from keneth Copeland . BUT I warn ya , ITS VERY BLASPHEMOUS . The man at the pool , DID NOT NEED JESUS , IF he had just had FAITH IN HIMSELF , he would have been healed . But wait , it gets worse than this . Kenny also said , I HAD TO TELL GOD to move HIS SON out of MY WAY so I could get the job done . AND FOLKS FOLLOW THAT . NEVER . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walla299 Posted November 22, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 9 Topic Count: 92 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,164 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 1,727 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/19/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/10/1961 Share Posted November 22, 2018 1. Videos should be posted in the video forums only. 2. Didn't bother with the videos as this looks way too much like prosperity gospel stuff to me. Our Father is not a genie or an ATM machine. This looks more like a magic show as others have said. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted November 22, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.35 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted November 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Deborah_ said: Looks like 100% showmanship to me. God is not a cash machine. The love of money is the root of all evil . PS , if this was real and had really occurred . THEN perhaps these so called men of GOD , would have had plenty and given to the POOR , stead of asking for DONATIONS . Even the fake blab it n grab it group leaders , DONT BELIEVE What they teach . IF so , how come THEY DONT GIVE their money away and get way way more in return . ITS ALL A SHAM to rid the poor of the money in their wallets . One thing we all need to remember . We sit under , we listen too , WHO and what we love . And if our desire is abundance , THEN THOSE MEN WE WILL SIT UNDER . BUT if our desire is TRULY from new hearts given us in Christ . THEN WE SIT UNDER the TRUE PROSPERITY , the TRUE KING and even if we lose all for HIS SAKE , we REJOICING . KNOWN to GOD are those who are HIS . And those who are HIS have a love FOR TRUTH . And they will flee such men who teach contrary to Christ and the apostles . They follow only the LAMB and any strangers voice that teaches , THEY FLEE SUCH . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithbuilders Posted November 22, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 235 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 166 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/29/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/20/1972 Share Posted November 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said: The love of money is the root of all evil . Yes the love of money, not money, is the root of all evil: God wants us to control stuff, not have stuff control us. 10 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said: IF so , how come THEY DONT GIVE their money away and get way way more in return . Actually I know a number of preaches that do! I hate it when people judge all same type preachers because of the downfall of some! And the same preachers never ask "give me give me give me" They preach, and live the Word of God; and God has blessed them for it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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