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When I first was born-again and received knowledge that I was a son of God and that I was ALWAYS a son of God I used to believe just as the majority of those in Christendom that the kingdom of

God was an actual kingdom with a king, (with a realm or location, with subjects, a royal court, a castle or mansion, etc.), all the fixings of what we all commonly know in this earth as a kingdom.

But I was wrong. We were wrong. Christendom was wrong and still is. 


Matthew 12:28 (KJV)
28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God
is come unto you.

Luke 11:20 (KJV)
20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God
is come upon you.

Question: What is Jesus Christ doing?
Answer: Jesus Christ is casting out 'devils.'

Jesus Christ is, in effect, saying that He is the kingdom of God. A kingdom OF GOD that has come 'unto you.'
This 'kingdom' is not the same as the kingdom of heaven. This kingdom (of heaven) does have a king, a realm, a court, subject, etc.

Luke 17:20-21 (KJV)

20 And when he was demanded of the
Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

The apostle Paul adds to this truth when he says:

Romans 14:17 (KJV)

17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and
drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

The kingdom of God
is Christ.
Christ is within 'you.'
Christ is righteousness, peace, and joy... all the deific attributes of Christ Himself. And flesh has inherited Christ as Promised by God to His people Israel, and spiritual Israel.

And this is our inheritance as named souls that were contemplated by God in Trinity in His Mind BEFORE He created heaven
earth
and man.
His Elect people were written in a 'book' of life of the lamb slain from [BEFORE] the foundation (creation) of the world (Rev. 13:8).


1 Corinthians 15:50 (KJV)
50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

The unsaved cannot inherit the kingdom of God who is Christ:


John 14:17 (KJV)
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

The unsaved who are not named in the book of life of the lamb slain... a.k.a., the world, CANNOT RECEIVE Christ. No way, no how.

So, there are two groups of people on the planet, always has been: those in Covenant with God, and those not in Covenant with God.

Righteousness = The Father

Peace = the Son, the Prince of Peace

Joy = the Holy Spirit.


Go figure.



 

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1 hour ago, jeremiah1five said:

When I first was born-again and received knowledge that I was a son of God and that I was ALWAYS a son of God

This thread is probably my favorite topic, subject, scriptures...(George has a good teaching on the Kingdom).

When I was first born-again I received the knowledge that I was a child of God. Sonship is progressive and takes maturity.

What did you mean by you were ALWAYS a son of God?

I am writing to you, fathers, because you know Him who has been from the beginning. I am writing to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I have written to you, children, because you know the Father. 1John2:13

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2 hours ago, In Him said:

What did you mean by you were ALWAYS a son of God?

 

Before God created anything it was just Him (Father, Son. Holy Spirit) in Trinity. Our finite minds cannot fathom the enormity of what it is like in Him, in Trinity, for that is 'when' He contemplated His people before He created heaven, earth, and man. 

There is no sin in God, there is no death in God, so when He did contemplate to create and birth a people, the only way He can contemplate His Elect and that of sons and daughters but as holy, righteous, sinless beings. This is where His Foreknowledge of these Elect people occurred. But the moment God breathed into the nostrils of the first created man He 'blew' His Elect into the loins of the man to be born at an appointed TIME, and born-again at the appointed TIME.

All that God is doing in TIME is preparing bodies to go with those names in the book of life of the lamb slain from [BEFORE] the foundation (creation) of the world (Rev. 13:8).

And He's getting away with it.

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5 hours ago, jeremiah1five said:

When I first was born-again and received knowledge that I was a son of God and that I was ALWAYS a son of God I used to believe just as the majority of those in Christendom that the kingdom of

God was an actual kingdom with a king, (with a realm or location, with subjects, a royal court, a castle or mansion, etc.), all the fixings of what we all commonly know in this earth as a kingdom.

But I was wrong. We were wrong. Christendom was wrong and still is. 


Matthew 12:28 (KJV)
28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God
is come unto you.

Luke 11:20 (KJV)
20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God
is come upon you.

Question: What is Jesus Christ doing?
Answer: Jesus Christ is casting out 'devils.'

Jesus Christ is, in effect, saying that He is the kingdom of God. A kingdom OF GOD that has come 'unto you.'
This 'kingdom' is not the same as the kingdom of heaven. This kingdom (of heaven) does have a king, a realm, a court, subject, etc.

Luke 17:20-21 (KJV)

20 And when he was demanded of the
Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

The apostle Paul adds to this truth when he says:

Romans 14:17 (KJV)

17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and
drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

The kingdom of God
is Christ.
Christ is within 'you.'
Christ is righteousness, peace, and joy... all the deific attributes of Christ Himself. And flesh has inherited Christ as Promised by God to His people Israel, and spiritual Israel.

And this is our inheritance as named souls that were contemplated by God in Trinity in His Mind BEFORE He created heaven
earth
and man.
His Elect people were written in a 'book' of life of the lamb slain from [BEFORE] the foundation (creation) of the world (Rev. 13:8).


1 Corinthians 15:50 (KJV)
50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

The unsaved cannot inherit the kingdom of God who is Christ:


John 14:17 (KJV)
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

The unsaved who are not named in the book of life of the lamb slain... a.k.a., the world, CANNOT RECEIVE Christ. No way, no how.

So, there are two groups of people on the planet, always has been: those in Covenant with God, and those not in Covenant with God.

Righteousness = The Father

Peace = the Son, the Prince of Peace

Joy = the Holy Spirit.


Go figure.



 

Focusing totally on the spiritual facet of the Kingdom and deny the future physical manifestation of the kingdom is a mistake.. 

The spiritual Kingdom is only the first stage of the Kingdom where the future citizens of the Physical kingdom are recruited..

But once the Number of citizens is reached then the Kingdom will be transformed into it's final state..

So the Spiritual kingdom awaits the transformation into the eternal physical Kingdom..

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4 hours ago, jeremiah1five said:

But the moment God breathed into the nostrils of the first created man He 'blew' His Elect into the loins of the man to be born at an appointed TIME, and born-again at the appointed TIME.

a slight biological point here:

a grandmother carries the eggs her daughter will have, a mother carries eggs, which are passed to her daughter, and so on, back to Eve. Hence the Jewish line being from the mothers line. Sperm, on the other has, is made all the time without this biological connection. This information is not widely known, as it further supports the existence of Eve.

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      We, as the born again...are all as one body =   ministers of the reconciliation. We are all called to set the table with the Goodness of God's Gift of Righteousness, and invite the entire world to come to God's table and be filled with the goodness of God's mercy and forgiveness. Salvation is a spiritual  family reunion where we are all rejoined into the Spirit of God as we gather around the Cross, in celebration of Christ's Blood, which alone  has made us acceptable to God as  '"the righteousness of Christ." This is the Grace of God.  This is the "Gift of Righteousness".   Paul teaches... "be followers of Me, as I follow Christ". Jesus literally gave Paul most of the "church doctrine", that we understand as a "new Testament Church". Its Paul who first delivered, to the body of Christ,  the exact truth/doctrine regarding exactly how God saves you. "Justification by Faith". This is not "repent and be baptized".  This is JUSTIFICATION BY FAITH.  Notice the different words, the different meaning, between the two? So, when you preach and  teach "Justification by FAITH"..., you are teaching.. "faith"....as ONLY what God accepts to then SAVE YOU and Keep you saved....., as Jesus taught Paul.   What is so unusual about this situation with Paul... is that Paul was called later......after Jesus went back to heaven. Jesus took this "apostle to the gentiles", and taught him basically all that believers understand regarding almost every church doctrine, but most specifically the doctrine of "Justification by Faith", = without your self effort being involved. (no works, no commandment keeping, to BE saved or STAY saved). Salvation is  all of Grace. Logically this is easy to understand, because..... unless you are on the Cross bleeding and dying, you are not the savior of yourself. A lot of people are trying to keep themselves saved, but you can no more do that then you can save yourself to begin with.... as it takes a sacrifical redeemer on a Cross, shedding blood,  to save you and keep you saved. The bumper sticker says.....>"The ONE who saved you, keeps you saved."    Philippians 1:6   Salvation is not a commandment keeping performance to be accepted by God,  situation. Pride, self righteousness..... is the carnal idea of being good enough, based on commandment keeping, or lifestyle...that says to God..."see ME, im doing all this STUFF, im keeping the commandments, im living holy. so you HAVE TO TAKE ME NOW". "YOU HAVE TO KEEP ME NOW".. No He doesn't, and no He won't. ! As compared to Jesus, all your and my good works and commandment keeping and your idea of holy lifestyle that you are doing after you are saved, all this is just as dirty and useless to save US,  as ALL that was  before you were Saved. Get this !!  What could not save you before the Cross, can't keep you saved after the Cross. Understand that, and you have seen yourself as God sees you, and once that happens, you will understand just how wonderful the Mercy of the Grace of God, really is.... and what its done and keeps doing for you.   as "The Gift of Salvation".. "The Gift of righteousness".   This is your Salvation. Redemption, is a GRACE via MERCY situation, where the goodness of God has been slain on a Cross, so that by Jesus's BLOOD bought redemption, you are accepted by God, once you Give God your Faith. "faith is accepted (by God) as your righteousness". Giving God your faith, activates God to impute to you (eternally gift you with)  the " righteousness of Christ".   How long does the Blood of Jesus effect last (the forgiveness of God)  if you have it as your blood atonement?   It will last as long as Jesus Lives. If you are saved, born again, (SAVED)  then you will remain so for exactly as long as the One who saved you, Lives. This is because you have literally become "the Righteousness of Christ". The NT explains this as being "IN CHRIST"....as in ...you are now become "the righteousness of Christ". You are a "New Creation". You have become a Blood bought, Saint. Did you do for yourself? So, if you didnt cause yourself to be saved, then how can you cause yourself to stay saved by your self effort? If you think you can lose what only God caused, then you are pretending that you can control what God has given as a Gift.   And that is pride.   Listen, Salvation is ALL OF JESUS.  The beginning and the end of it. And notice you didnt have to keep any commandments or be water baptized to BECOME born again. After this, sure, you are to live holy, etc, etc, etc.. Discipleship follows salvation...but this  is NOT Your Salvation. Jesus is your salvation.  You get your righteousness as "the gift of Righteousness" from Him. Live holy, do right, pay attention to the commandments, while understanding that none of these can save you or keep you saved. Salvation is ALL of Jesus. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------   How to teach :   "Justification by Faith", and the "Gift of Righteousness".   And the reason im teaching (some of  you this) , is because over the years ive discovered that many fine Christians, good hearted, sincere, are horribly taught in their Christian beginnings regarding the New Testament,  and suffer the consequences of this until they are helped. So, i just try to resolve this, i just try to be that help.... so that anyone and everyone who didnt have the benefit early on, regarding  a good NT Teacher or good solid "Grace Foundation" doctrinal teaching,  Hebrews 13:9 =  can have it if they want it.   So, This is how you understand HOW God saves you so that you can see why and how.  And in this way, when you have the opportunity to "contend for the Faith", as Jude explains, you'll be able to argue the True faith from the point of view of the Cross, and the Grace of God. And you'll be able to teach a new believer how to understand what i call : "From Adam to Adam to Righteousness".   Here we go..   God understood that Adam lost "righteousness" when tempted to eat the apple and did. Eve was tempted, Adam saw it coming, both sinned, and here we are in a mess, till God rescues us. So, the "fall of Adam", is the sin of Adam that LOST Adam's righteousness. It was this righteousness, this sinless perfection, that made Adam "in the image of God". God is HOLY.  Holy is a specific spiritual term for the Righteousness of God, that ADAM HAD, before He sinned. Once Adam sinned, then his God-like .."state of sinless perfection" was LOST, = "adamic nature" ensued, and this is the eventual spiritual state of all people born since then. "sinners". Notice that you dont have to be taught how to lie, cheat, steal, or just do bad stuff. You are born this way.. "born into Sin". So, that is simply that you have no righteousness, same as Adam LOST.   Answer ?  Cure ??   = SALVATION.   Salvation is God restoring this RIGHTEOUSNESS to anyone who will "call on the name of Jesus, and you shall be saved".   This is "justification by faith", and "THE GIFT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS".   THIS IS "REDEMPTION".   REDEMPTION IS CHRIST DYING FOR YOU SIN, AND GOD GIVING YOU JESUS'S RIGHTEOUSNESS =  IN PLACE OF YOUR SIN.   GOD CAME HERE, as Jesus, to give it back.  To restore the original righteousness that Adam had, into and unto all who are BORN AGAIN.   Jesus is the "2nd Adam".   He's the same righteousness as the 1st, but He's also GOD in the Flesh, and when He sacrificed Himself for the "sin of the world", He is offering His very Righteousness to anyone and everyone who will go to the Cross, kneel, accept Christ as their Savior, BY FAITH, as explained by THE Gospel., that came thru Jesus thru Paul to you and me and everyone.  = "justification by faith"". = God accepts your FAITH, to give you the eternal righteousness that JESUS died to offer.     John 3:16   All Salvation actually is, is the lost righteousness of Adam, given back thru the Cross (Jesus Sacrifice) to anyone who will "believe on the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved".  Its a Gift.   "The Gift of Righteousness".   This is called the "ministry of reconciliation"...were we are reconciled back into God's family and into God Himself.....by receiving the righteousness of CHRIST as "the gift of Righteousness".   This is your Salvation.
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