OSAS is the result of the finished work of the cross

[Heb 13:8]

The work has already been done, so let us rest in His work. OSAS is not a doctrine, it's rather the result of what Jesus already did for us. The carnal mind can't conceive that it is finished or that the gift of salvation is free, so those who oppose it place a price tag on themselves. , they work for the gift not knowing they're in defiance to God and the work He already did. 

They fear God instead of seeing Him as a friend, instead of accepting the truth that has been given to them through the internet. I suppose there is no difference in the Pharisee up in Jesus face 2000 year ago and Thomas wanting to see the nail marks in His hand vs his saints on the internet sharing the truth. Blessed is the one who does not see and yet believes.

Still, in all this defiance over centuries, God still loves them. All He requires is for us to believe in what He did, but we can't even do that right. We have to hold on to ourselves, our pride, ego, our world power. But don't you see, that's what is killing you. There is no truth in you unless you are born of God, He is the only truth in the end.

We have all fallen short of the Glory of God, even one sin that you've committed in your entire life places you in enmity with God and his saints. So how does one reconcile himself back to God, through belief in who Jesus says He is. He is God in the flesh who has died for your sins and has risen!. Don't just hear it, receive it.

Disobedience is not trusting in the finished work of the cross, they say disobedience is lack of daily repentance, following commandments etc etc... but they don't realize that what their preaching is actually the disobedience they obtain too, worshiping Christ without actually having Christ. Loss of salvation is the defiance, not trusting in what He already did for you. That's how the devil works, he reverses the truth because he opposes God and the victory that's already won. 

It's not that the devil doesn't want you to know the truth, but rather he doesn't want you to receive it because you're already his. The hardest thing to do is believe and walk away from everything that you think is truth, so walk away and let's be friends in Christ.

[Heb 13:8]

Jhn 3:16-18 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 

Jhn 5:24 "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.

Jhn 6:35-40 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

Jhn 7:37-39 On the last and greatest day of the festival, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, “Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. 38Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.” 39By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified.

Jhn 10:25-30 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.”

Act 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed.

Rom 6:3-4 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

Rom 8:31-39 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36As it is written: “For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.” 37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

2Co 1:21-22 Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, 22set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

2Co 5:4-6 For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. 5Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come. 6Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord.

Eph 1:13-14 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.

Phil 1:4-6 In all my prayers for all of you, I always pray with joy 5because of your partnership in the gospel from the first day until now, 6being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

Col 2:13-15 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

1Ti 1:16 But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life.

Tit 1:1-2 Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ to further the faith of God’s elect and their knowledge of the truth that leads to godliness— 2in the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time,

Tit 3:3-8 At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. 4But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, 5he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, 6whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life. 8This is a trustworthy saying. And I want you to stress these things, so that those who have trusted in God may be careful to devote themselves to doing what is good. These things are excellent and profitable for everyone.

Heb 6:16-20 People swear by someone greater than themselves, and the oath confirms what is said and puts an end to all argument. 17Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. 18God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged. 19We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain, 20where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.

1 Pet 1:3-5 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.

2 Pet 2:8-9 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.

1 Jhn 5:9-14 We accept human testimony, but God’s testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. 10Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. 11And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.

Jude 1:1 Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James, To those who have been called, who are loved in God the Father and kept for a Jesus Christ:

Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let the one who hears say, "Come!" Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.

[Blood Bought 1953]

21 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

The work has already been done, so let us rest in His work. OSAS is not a doctrine, it's rather the result of what Jesus already did for us. The carnal mind can't conceive that it is finished or that the gift of salvation is free, so those who oppose it place a price tag on themselves. , they work for the gift not knowing they're in defiance to God and the work He already did. 

They fear God instead of seeing Him as a friend, instead of accepting the truth that has been given to them through the internet. I suppose there is no difference in the Pharisee up in Jesus face 2000 year ago and Thomas wanting to see the nail marks in His hand vs his saints on the internet sharing the truth. Blessed is the one who does not see and yet believes.

Still, in all this defiance over centuries, God still loves them. All He requires is for us to believe in what He did, but we can't even do that right. We have to hold on to ourselves, our pride, ego, our world power. But don't you see, that's what is killing you. There is no truth in you unless you are born of God, He is the only truth in the end.

We have all fallen short of the Glory of God, even one sin that you've committed in your entire life places you in enmity with God and his saints. So how does one reconcile himself back to God, through belief in who Jesus says He is. He is God in the flesh who has died for your sins and has risen!. Don't just hear it, receive it.

Disobedience is not trusting in the finished work of the cross, they say disobedience is lack of daily repentance, following commandments etc etc... but they don't realize that what their preaching is actually the disobedience they obtain too, worshiping Christ without actually having Christ. Loss of salvation is the defiance, not trusting in what He already did for you. That's how the devil works, he reverses the truth because he opposes God and the victory that's already won. 

It's not that the devil doesn't want you to know the truth, but rather he doesn't want you to receive it because you're already his. The hardest thing to do is believe and walk away from everything that you think is truth, so walk away and let's be friends in Christ.

Great post, as usual.....

God will not save anyone who is trying to be saved, He will only save those who are trusting to be saved.

go to “ get God’s gift .org”  for further info 

 

[frienduff thaylorde]

17 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

Jhn 3:16-18 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 

Jhn 5:24 "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.

Jhn 6:35-40 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

Jhn 7:37-39 On the last and greatest day of the festival, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, “Let anyone who is thirsty come to me and drink. 38Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them.” 39By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified.

Jhn 10:25-30 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30I and the Father are one.”

Act 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who were appointed for eternal life believed.

Rom 6:3-4 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

Rom 8:31-39 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36As it is written: “For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.” 37No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

2Co 1:21-22 Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, 22set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.

2Co 5:4-6 For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. 5Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come. 6Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord.

Eph 1:13-14 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.

Phil 1:4-6 In all my prayers for all of you, I always pray with joy 5because of your partnership in the gospel from the first day until now, 6being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

Col 2:13-15 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

1Ti 1:16 But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life.

Tit 1:1-2 Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ to further the faith of God’s elect and their knowledge of the truth that leads to godliness— 2in the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time,

Tit 3:3-8 At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. 4But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, 5he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, 6whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life. 8This is a trustworthy saying. And I want you to stress these things, so that those who have trusted in God may be careful to devote themselves to doing what is good. These things are excellent and profitable for everyone.

Heb 6:16-20 People swear by someone greater than themselves, and the oath confirms what is said and puts an end to all argument. 17Because God wanted to make the unchanging nature of his purpose very clear to the heirs of what was promised, he confirmed it with an oath. 18God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope set before us may be greatly encouraged. 19We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain, 20where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.

1 Pet 1:3-5 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God’s power until the coming of the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.

2 Pet 2:8-9 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.

1 Jhn 5:9-14 We accept human testimony, but God’s testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. 10Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. 11And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.

Jude 1:1 Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James, To those who have been called, who are loved in God the Father and kept for a Jesus Christ:

Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let the one who hears say, "Come!" Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.

That's right everyone .   JESUS IS THE ONLY ONE .    I KNOW I am saved .   FOR GOD SAVED ME .    OH LET ALL SING A SONG OF REJOICING TO THE LORD .

And let us CONTINUE IN HE who as saved us and can keep us from falling .   Cotinue IN HIM , faithful to the end and as JESUS said Let no man take thy crown.

Be faithful to the end .    For if a man continues not IN CHRIST They will surely hear , depart from me workers in inquity I never knew you .

OH let us make our calling and election sure , ENSURE its JESUS we are following and not some image of Him that man created .  Endure faithful

HE is with us and HE can succor us through any temptation .    Remember those who are LED of the SPIRIT are HIS .     LED of the SPIRIT .   

We are servants to whom we obey .    Whether of sin unto death or obedience unto righteousness.   YES , let us read all things written in the bible and get well fed .

CHRIST paid the price ,  COUNT THAT AS ABSOLUTE TRUTH .   AND CONTINUE IN HIM TO THE END or be prepared to hear I never knew you .

BE YE HOLY FOR HE IS HOLY , HE has sent all who are HIS the SPIRIT and it is HE that is giving us the desire and abilty to walk as did HE .

ONLY let us understand ,   HIS SPIRIT LEADS and if one does not follow , obeying HIM but rather heeds the flesh ,  BETTER CORRECT that one who has erred and fast .

AND fast as in faster than greased lightning .   THE ONE THING ALL MUST FIRST KNOW and DEEPLY KNOW , IS THAT WE are saved SOLEY BY THE GRACE OF GOD .

KEEP FIRM IN MINDS that JESUS IS THE SAVOIR , THAT HE DID ALL THAT WAS REQUIRED FOR SALVATION.  DO not ever once doubt that .

AND continue in HIM till the end .  

[frienduff thaylorde]

4 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

Great post, as usual.....

God will not save anyone who is trying to be saved, He will only save those who are trusting to be saved.

go to “ get God’s gift .org”  for further info 

 

TRYING TO BE SAVED .    WELL THAT IS TOTALLY DOUBTING CHRIST .    CONTINUING IN HIM is simply CONTINUING IN THE ONE WHO SAVED and can KEEP us from falling .

LOTS of folks misunderstanding me .     But watch how I am ONLY going to keep reminding , CONTINUE IN HIM or be told I never knew you .

The reminders I have been giving ,   Lord willing they about to increase .    We running out o time and ROME inclusive SATANIC lies are spreading as fire .

YEAH I did say satanic .  CAUSE that is who Fathered this big unity inclusive lie .    AND YES I called it a lie too .

OL frienduff , makes no apologies for saying any such thing .  IF exposing false moves , and churches seems not as love .  THEN we better LEARN JESUS much better.

OH , on that note I don't think YOU FOLLOW that mess pile .     JUST reminding was all . 

[Blood Bought 1953]

2 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

TRYING TO BE SAVED .    WELL THAT IS TOTALLY DOUBTING CHRIST .    CONTINUING IN HIM is simply CONTINUING IN THE ONE WHO SAVED and can KEEP us from falling .

LOTS of folks misunderstanding me .     But watch how I am ONLY going to keep reminding , CONTINUE IN HIM or be told I never knew you .

The reminders I have been giving ,   Lord willing they about to increase .    We running out o time and ROME inclusive SATANIC lies are spreading as fire .

YEAH I did say satanic .  CAUSE that is who Fathered this big unity inclusive lie .    AND YES I called it a lie too .

OL frienduff , makes no apologies for saying any such thing .  IF exposing false moves , and churches seems not as love .  THEN we better LEARN JESUS much better.

OH , on that note I don't think YOU FOLLOW that mess pile .     JUST reminding was all . 

 

I try to be as kind as humanly possible with my posts in these forums, yet some things I see in here make me genuinely angree.....false doctrine MUST be exposed....those that attend Catholic Churches can be saved, but if they actually believe the Satanic lies found in there Cathechism they are in big- time jeopardy .And I will always believe that anybody who believes in Purgatory is absolutely clueless about Christianity.Frienduff seems to have a calling for calling this cult out......I hope he does not think he is alone.Many other churches err in there unscriptural beliefs.I was raised as a Methodist and unless things have changed, they are just another one of the many” Jesus Saves.....BUT”  denominations preaching a “ perverted” gospel of works.

 

 

 

 

[Heb 13:8]

1 hour ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

TRYING TO BE SAVED .    WELL THAT IS TOTALLY DOUBTING CHRIST .    CONTINUING IN HIM is simply CONTINUING IN THE ONE WHO SAVED and can KEEP us from falling .

How can we not continue in him if we are sealed until redemption and buried in his death? 

Rom 6:3-4 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

Eph 1:13-14 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.

[discipler777]

4 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

The work has already been done, so let us rest in His work. OSAS is not a doctrine, it's rather the result of what Jesus already did for us.

Yes, ... but only if the believer continues to still have faith in Jesus Christ/God until his/her dying breath, eg did not blaspheme or curse the Holy Spirit of God. Once saved, believers may later lose faith or not keep the faith by ignorantly and unrepentantly sinning willfully(HEBREWS.10:26-31 & 6:1-8, cf 2TIMOTHY.4:7, 1CORINTHIANS.5:5 & 6:9-10), deny or renounce the faith during times of persecution and tribulations(MATTHEW.10:33), depart from the faith(1TIMOTHY.4:1), etc, especially Gentile Christians who were formerly mostly lawless Gentiles wrt God's Law.

So, once saved is NOT ALWAYS saved - Parable of the Sower at MATTHEW.13. Most of God's promises or blessings are conditional, eg to be saved from hell by God, you need to believe in His Son, Jesus the Christ/Messiah/Saviour = the condition for salvation; to be blessed by God with a good and long life on earth, you need to keep His Law/commandments/Word; etc. Like they say, "There is no free lunch in this world" = "you" have to work for it, as per PHILIPPIANS.2:12.

OSAS or "once saved ALWAYS saved" is likely  a self-deception and unconditional self-assurance = OSAS adherents have falsely guaranteed themselves salvation no matter what, eg no matter if they "go and sin some more or sin the same sin repeatedly" or curse God/Jesus and die(cf JOHN.5:14 & 8:11, JOB.2:9). It's like they take God for granted or may mock God with their willful sins(cf GALATIANS.6:7-8) or deciding things for themselves by putting themselves as God(cf 2THESSALONIANS.2:4).

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Edited December 4, 2018 by discipler777

[discipler777]

2 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

How can we not continue in him if we are sealed until redemption and buried in his death? 

Yes, ....... but only for the elect who have been elected, saved and sealed in the eyes of God - the God who sees people from their conception to their death in a blink of an eye. Christians should not be presumptuous that once saved by faith, they are already the elect for "many are called but few chosen" and "narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to (eternal) life". ... 

PHILIPPIANS.2:12-16 (NKJV) = Light Bearers

12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

14 Do all things without complaining and disputing, 15 that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world, 16 holding fast the word of life, so that I may rejoice in the day of Christ that I have not run in vain or labored in vain.

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ROMANS.11:19-24 = Israel’s Rejection Not Final

19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.” 20 Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either. 22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

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Edited December 4, 2018 by discipler777

[Blood Bought 1953]

On 11/30/2018 at 6:10 PM, Butero said:

You spent an entire night praying till you received salvation.  If I am preaching a works based salvation, so are you.  Only a pure Calvinist is going to the point of saying they had absolutely nothing to do with them being saved.  

What lacks logic and common sense is your vain attempts to keep charging people with pride and a works based salvation.  That is the pot calling the kettle black.  I have never seen anyone so prideful than those who take pride in their OSAS doctrine.  

 

On 11/30/2018 at 6:14 PM, Heb 13:8 said:

The narrow way is to come to a saving faith in Jesus Christ, not to create your own rule book of salvation. God bless.

This was meant to reply to Discipler.....but if the shoe fits.....Heb13 does not need it— he is not a Legalist—- he gets it

“ but to him that does NOT WORK, but who BELIEVES on Him that justifies the ungodly his FAITH is counted as righteousness”. If you choose to take the road that depends on your pitiful performance , just remember that the standard for that choice is perfection.You and the other Legalists ( Judaizers) can’t keep God’s Standard so you take His Holy Laws and reduce them to a level you think you CAN keep.James said if you break one Commandment you have broken them all.All those things that you don’t do that in your heart you know you “ should” do? Yep.....those are sins too. If you are taking strangers into your home everyday to feed and clothe them and give them a place to stay, I apologize.Cant you get the big hint that God is trying to show all of you blind guides? Every time you delude yourself into thinking you can keep the rules, God just keeps raising the bar.To the Pharisees That thought they were “ good enough” because they had never committed adultery, He said that if you even lust after a woman you are just as guilty as the adulterer.If some idiot convinced himself he had never committed spiritual adultery with his lust, He is given an even standard to reach. Break one of the 613 laws and you are no better than the guy who broke them all.If that ain’t enough for you, let’s raise the bar even higher—-in your spare time today , did you take care of all the poor and sick in your neighborhood and feed any stranger that came around?

 Do you Judaizing Legalists fail to see a slight trend here?God is trying to show you the utter FUTILITY of trying to make it with your works.Why on earth do you reject Grace? It’s freely given to those that merely put their faith in Christ’s Shed  Blood.He will GIVE you what you are working so hard for.SAVED BY GRACE.And you reject it.You do not trust God — the One that offers it as a free gift.There will be irony galore at the Great White Throne Judgement.The Johnny- One-Notes who do nothing but spout off “ repent...repent....repent of all of your sins before you die” will discover they never knew what repentance was.

 

Edited December 4, 2018 by Blood Bought 1953