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1 hour ago, maryjayne said:

I 90% agree with you, but do think we have a duty to make sure they know what God says.

and to let them know that God loves them, its the active lifestyle which is the problem. 

Lets lower that number .    Remember GOD judges those outside the church .  But if any comes into a church let sound holy doctrine be preached .  

Andlet us remember that if any man , woman or child profess to be a believer ,  we then do as they real apostels taught .

If any man does err, sin , etc ,  we rebuke them sharply   .    Too many professing its being cult like to remind .   It aint being cult like

well,  unless the true ones who wrote those letters were cults .     They made sure if error was spotted to correct it fast .  They made sure ONLY sound doctrine was taught .

heck , they burned books that were false .   Its in acts .   The first line of defense and building one another up,  Is Sound doctrine .  IS the pattern the early church taught .

If a deacon , bishop or any leader is not grave and serious ,   They need to go find jobs at burger king or etc and step down .

This let folks make their own mind up    ,   shoo wee,   that mindset was not In one single true apostels letters .  Instead it was rebuke sharply , correct any error

feed only sound doctrine .    We need that pattern back,  all else is sinking sand and comes right from sensual leaders.

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4 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Lets lower that number .    Remember GOD judges those outside the church .  But if any comes into a church let sound holy doctrine be preached .  

Andlet us remember that if any man , woman or child profess to be a believer ,  we then do as they real apostels taught .

If any man does err, sin , etc ,  we rebuke them sharply   .    Too many professing its being cult like to remind .   It aint being cult like

well,  unless the true ones who wrote those letters were cults .     They made sure if error was spotted to correct it fast .  They made sure ONLY sound doctrine was taught .

heck , they burned books that were false .   Its in acts .   The first line of defense and building one another up,  Is Sound doctrine .  IS the pattern the early church taught .

If a deacon , bishop or any leader is not grave and serious ,   They need to go find jobs at burger king or etc and step down .

This let folks make their own mind up    ,   shoo wee,   that mindset was not In one single true apostels letters .  Instead it was rebuke sharply , correct any error

feed only sound doctrine .    We need that pattern back,  all else is sinking sand and comes right from sensual leaders.

I have just edited my post, after the bolded words, to clarify my point, as it was incompletely worded.

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On 12/5/2018 at 8:50 AM, NathWChristian said:

If someone lives a gay lifestyle, and practice homosexual acts without repentance, what will happen with then, since the Bible says homosexuals will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven?

Only if they do not believe in Jesus Christ. 

Same as with liars, murderers, adulterers, etc.

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There is no argument that homosexuality is sin. Adultery is sin. Liars, thieves, cheaters, etc. 

Under the Law of Moses these were to be stoned. 

Under Grace, these are to be evangelized and God deals with his property thereafter himself. 

Straw poll... how many are divorced / remarried? 

How many divorces resulted from adultery? 

How many looked at women lustfully (Matthew 5:27-30)?

How many go about showing shameful nakedness in public (Isaiah 47:1-3*)?

* Which is adultery (Leviticus 18:8)

Hmmmm?

Why is it we single out these people and do everything BUT witness to them in a loving way? 

Matthew 7 Judge not lest ye be judged... 

King David judged the sheep thief when he was in fact judging himself... four fold, just as he said. 

1 .His illegitimate child died. 

2. His daughter Tamar was raped by her 1/2 brother Amnon. 

3. Her full brother Absalom killed Amnon. 

4. Absalom tried to overthrow his father David and was killed in the process.      

Especially after gay people have been so harshly treated by believers, when you can get beyond the retaliation... showing them true loving kindness in Jesus' name works miracles! 

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P.S. 

The militant gays are driven by two factors... 

1. retaliation by Churched people

2. they seek the affirmation they will never ever have... their own. ← deep down inside they know it's wrong. 

Our place is to help not judge.

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On 12/10/2018 at 10:02 AM, John Robinson said:

It appears George has banned CCHL from this topic (and hopefully from the board). At any rate, I've put him on ignore. 

It's better to reach those in darkness then to ignore them brother

 

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On 12/16/2018 at 5:17 PM, JohnD said:

There is no argument that homosexuality is sin. Adultery is sin. Liars, thieves, cheaters, etc. 

Under the Law of Moses these were to be stoned. 

Under Grace, these are to be evangelized and God deals with his property thereafter himself. 

Straw poll... how many are divorced / remarried? 

How many divorces resulted from adultery? 

How many looked at women lustfully (Matthew 5:27-30)?

How many go about showing shameful nakedness in public (Isaiah 47:1-3*)?

* Which is adultery (Leviticus 18:8)

Hmmmm?

Why is it we single out these people and do everything BUT witness to them in a loving way? 

Matthew 7 Judge not lest ye be judged... 

King David judged the sheep thief when he was in fact judging himself... four fold, just as he said. 

1 .His illegitimate child died. 

2. His daughter Tamar was raped by her 1/2 brother Amnon. 

3. Her full brother Absalom killed Amnon. 

4. Absalom tried to overthrow his father David and was killed in the process.      

Especially after gay people have been so harshly treated by believers, when you can get beyond the retaliation... showing them true loving kindness in Jesus' name works miracles! 

I agree John there no time left in this world. Let's try to open people's eyes instead of condemnation. 

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On 12/11/2018 at 11:14 AM, euggio said:

It is not for us to determine who will be saved or not. God chooses whomever he wants. Just remember not to cast the first stone and not to judge others.

Go and sin no more !

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17 minutes ago, Wayne222 said:

It's better to reach those in darkness then to ignore them brother

 

If after the first or second admonition they aint hearing , but keep on with their agenda ,  REJECT THEM .     Yes , its not seeker friendly ,  But it is wise

as paul wrote it first .    We don't want leaven rising to the full,   DO WE .

This world is seriously ripe for the all inclusive Anti Christ which his all inclusive spirit is leading all right too .

But no worries for me wayne .   No worries , YOU REJOICE for me , no matter how hated I am for exposing and correcting .

I GOT the LORD , I have all hope and JOY and it seems no matter how rejected I am , I ONLY REJOICE , saying OH thank thee O Lord for at least

counting me worthy to suffer some form of shame FOR YOUR GLORIOUS NAME .    THE JOY of the LORD is my strength and the Salvation of the LORD MY JOY .

Man , its time to praise the LORD again everyone .  So hands up and rejoice in the LORD .

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Just now, frienduff thaylorde said:

If after the first or second admonition they aint hearing , but keep on with their agenda ,  REJECT THEM .     Yes , its not seeker friendly ,  But it is wise

as paul wrote it first .    We don't want leaven rising to the full,   DO WE .

This world is seriously ripe for the all inclusive Anti Christ which his all inclusive spirit is leading all right too .

But no worries for me wayne .   No worries , YOU REJOICE for me , no matter how hated I am for exposing and correcting .

I GOT the LORD , I have all hope and JOY and it seems no matter how rejected I am , I ONLY REJOICE , saying OH thank thee O Lord for at least

counting me worthy to suffer some form of shame FOR YOUR GLORIOUS NAME .    THE JOY of the LORD is my strength and the Salvation of the LORD MY JOY .

Man , its time to praise the LORD again everyone .  So hands up and rejoice in the LORD .

Brother that's talking about believer's not unblievers. We must get the context right. So we can walk upright in all righteouness.

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