Sermon: What can we learn from the Moravian Revival?

[Guest]

On 1/6/2019 at 12:53 PM, George said:

Perhaps .. but we just start with our Statement of Faith.   

The statement of faith is well written but leaves a gap that between the death of Jesus and His ascension.  

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We believe in the Messiah, Jesus, God’s only begotten son, God come in the flesh. He was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate. He was crucified, died and buried. On the third day, He rose again. Soon afterward He ascended into heaven. Now He is seated at the right hand of the Father and He will return to judge both the living and the dead and reign for evermore.

The gap between Jesus' death and His ascension is being filled with some heretical teachings among some of today's TV's evangelists.  It all happens because of the difference between Hell and Hades.  You, of course, know this.  There is nothing in the Statement of Faith that I would disagree with.  The Statement of Faith is in harmony with the oldest creeds.

[leah777]

39 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

leaves a gap that between the death of Jesus and His ascension.  

where was Jesus? He was on Earth, preaching to people. Hades and Hell is the same place.

[Guest]

38 minutes ago, leah777 said:

where was Jesus? He was on Earth, preaching to people. Hades and Hell is the same place.

Hell and Hades: Not the Same Place

[leah777]

10 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

Hell and Hades: Not the Same Place

when you are dead, you are dead. Thats it until the day of Judgement. No souls floating around in Hades waiting. Despite what some anonymous link, with no idea of who wrote it, says.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, leah777 said:

when you are dead, you are dead. Thats it until the day of Judgement. No souls floating around in Hades waiting. Despite what some anonymous link, with no idea of who wrote it, says.

Luke_23:43  And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise."

2 Corinthians 12:4  was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak.

[This was Paul speaking before his death.]

Rev_2:7  'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life which is in the Paradise of God.'

[Not in some future date, but immediately Jesus grants to those who overcome.]

[George]

I removed some remarks from this thread.  Let's keep in mind that we're all family!    

[Guest]

On 1/9/2019 at 7:27 PM, PepperS said:

In verse 23:43, who decided the location of the comma?

The United Church of God places the comma after today.  There are a large number of Christians who believe the United Church of God is a cult.  We do know they deny the trinity which would make them at odds with the Statement of Faith on this Forum.  George, correct me if I am wrong or misleading here.

Armstrongism

[Guest]

Getting back to the OP, one only has to read through the various threads to see the need for revival.

Moravian Revival

[Robert.A]

The Brotherly Agreement

1. The Triune God as revealed in the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments is the only source of our life and salvation; and this Scripture is the sole standard of the doctrine and faith of the Unitas Fratrum and therefore shapes our life.

2. The Bible shall be our constant study: We shall read it with prayer for the influence and teaching of the Holy Spirit.

3. We will faithfully attend the service in the House of God and any special services that may be held in connection with our Church. We will be diligent in private prayer and will practise and encourage family worship.

4. Realizing that we have been called into fellowship with our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and being desirous that we shall be recognized as His followers, we shall conscientiously abstain from all amusements which would be inconsistent with the Christian life. We will avoid gambling of every kind.

5. Knowing that fornication, drunkenness and all other sins of the flesh are condemned in the Word of God, we will determine by His grace to live pure and morally upright lives.

6. Covetousness, dishonest practices in trade and wilful deceit are evils which are hindrances to the life of the Christians. These we will seek to avoid in our daily dealings with others.

7. We will earnestly oppose all superstition, obeahism and "false revivalism".

8. We will avoid envy, malice, revenge, strife, quarrelling and evil speaking. We will seek to be truthful and endeavour to live in the spirit of peace and good will to others, remembering that lying, profane language, such as swearing, abuse, unclean talk and all other sins of the tongue are contrary to the Spirit of Christ.

9. We acknowledge that it is our duty to obey the laws of the land in which we live, and we will endeavour to promote good citizenship.

10. We will endeavour to settle our differences with others in a Christian manner and only seek the aid of the courts of the law as a last resort and with the sanction of our ministers.

11. By our industry, sobriety and thrift, we will endeavour to erect proper houses and maintain good homes.

12. As parents and guardians we will bring up our children in a Christian manner and endeavour to secure for them the advantages of good education.

13. We believe it to be our duty as Christians to care for our aged parents and helpless members of our families, and at the same time to exercise public charity as it may be within our power to bestow.

14. As stewards of the gifts of God, we will support the spread of the Gospel at home and abroad by means of our tithes and freewill offerings.