douge Posted December 9, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 354 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 964 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 181 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/14/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2018 There is a difference in the gospels preached by Peter and Paul. It is evident by the preaching of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Below, Peter was speaking; Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; According to Peter, Christ was raised to sit on the throne of David in the coming earthly kingdom. Romans 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. According to Paul's gospel above, Christ died for our sins; as our substitute; to satisfy and appease the wrath, justice, and righteousness of God. The cross of Jesus Christ provided our atonement. He was buried. He rose again for our justification. This is the gospel we are to believe and trust alone for our salvation and eternal life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtletwo Posted December 10, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1,192 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 7,264 Content Per Day: 1.19 Reputation: 15,710 Days Won: 194 Joined: 07/15/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2018 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted December 10, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 686 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/16/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, douge said: This is the gospel we are to believe and trust alone for our salvation and eternal life. 1 John chapter 2 verse 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. James chapter 2 verse 13 because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment. I don't think you can trust in Jesus alone for eternal life, because he died for everyone's sins, you also have to show mercy just as he showed you. Matthew chapter 18 verse 27, 28 The servant's master took pity on him, canceled the debt and let him go. "But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred silver coins. He grabbed him and began to choke him. 'Pay back what you owe me!' he demanded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jayne Posted December 10, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,776 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,746 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 hours ago, douge said: There is a difference in the gospels preached by Peter and Paul. Below, Peter was speaking; Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; According to Peter, Christ was raised to sit on the throne of David in the coming earthly kingdom. No, there is no difference between the gospel of Peter and Paul. There is only one gospel of Jesus Christ. Why did you skip the verses in Peter's sermon that told how to be saved? "Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the LORD. And it shall come to pass that whoever calls on the name of the LORD Shall be saved." "Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.” And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation.” His comment about Christ being raised to sit on throne was helping those orthodox Jews who had Jesus killed to finally understand the truth. God had promised King David that one would sit on the throne one day and rule forever. This was the Messiah being foretold. They were looking for him. And now they know it was Jesus - whom they killed. Jesus both died for our sins to saved us and he will rule and reign forever. Both. Not either/or. Not two gospels. One gospel. 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted December 10, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,776 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,746 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, john1 said: I don't think you can trust in Jesus alone for eternal life, because he died for everyone's sins, you also have to show mercy just as he showed you. There is nothing we can do to be saved. Nothing. No works will save. Yes, you trust Jesus Christ alone for eternal life. The Bible says so over and over. Once you ARE saved, mercy should flow as evidence of salvation. So should love, joy, peace...... These things do not and cannot save. Period. But they should be part of our Christian walk. Edited December 10, 2018 by Jayne 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted December 10, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2018 Good responces people ? Yes there is only One Gospel, One Way to eternal salvation.. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah_ Posted December 10, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 788 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 872 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2018 13 hours ago, douge said: There is a difference in the gospels preached by Peter and Paul. It is evident by the preaching of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Below, Peter was speaking; Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; According to Peter, Christ was raised to sit on the throne of David in the coming earthly kingdom. Romans 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. According to Paul's gospel above, Christ died for our sins; as our substitute; to satisfy and appease the wrath, justice, and righteousness of God. The cross of Jesus Christ provided our atonement. He was buried. He rose again for our justification. This is the gospel we are to believe and trust alone for our salvation and eternal life. I'm sorry, but where is the difference? Quote According to Peter, Christ was raised to sit on the throne of David in the coming earthly kingdom. Where did Peter specify an earthly kingdom? He said that Christ was "exalted to the right hand of God." (Acts 2:33) And according to Paul, Christ "is seated at God's right hand in the heavenly realms."(Ephesians 1:20) Quote According to Paul's gospel above, Christ died for our sins; as our substitute; to satisfy and appease the wrath, justice, and righteousness of God. The cross of Jesus Christ provided our atonement. And Peter agrees: "Christ Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness." (I Peter 2:24) Also, "Christ suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God." (I Peter 3:18) There is indeed only one gospel. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted December 10, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 686 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/16/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2018 12 hours ago, Jayne said: There is nothing we can do to be saved. Matthew chapter 9 verse 13 But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted December 10, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,776 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,746 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, john1 said: Matthew chapter 9 verse 13 But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." Alright, then. How MUCH mercy must we show to be saved? Would assisting one old woman with putting her groceries in her car be enough? Or would the compassion have to extend to feeding the homeless everyday between Thanksgiving and Christmas? Where's the cut of point of mercy that we can say, "Here's the line in the sand, I'm saved now." Jesus wasn't telling the Pharisees that one has to show compassion to others to be saved. Please read the context. He was telling the Pharisees that HE was showing compassion on the sinners that they complained about him eating with. Jesus was the one showing compassion as God instructed in Hosea 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted December 10, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 41 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 686 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 221 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/16/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted December 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Jayne said: Jesus wasn't telling the Pharisees that one has to show compassion to others to be saved. Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, now we need to show mercy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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