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The Temple may not of been located on the Temple Mount.


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In the  pictures on the below website, You will see what Harod's Temple should look like.  So if they settle the debate on the LOCATION of the TEMPLE, it would be like the BIBLE is Clearer than the average JEWISH OPINION.  We ALSO have an eye witness, Josephus, other Historians, would put the true location all along, in the CITY OF DAVID.  When you consider the BIBLE, and Josephus, and many other sources such as Archaeologists, all say it is in the City of David. (Obviously the City of David is my opinion.)  I think the biggest factor is the POLITICS of ADMITTING the TEMPLE MOUNT was the wrong SITE, and therefore the JEWS have not been Praying at the Western Wall of Temple, but the Western Wall of Fort Antonia. That will be an awful bitter Pill for the Jews to Swallow. 

It seems in the top picture, to be almost Correct, EXCEPT the size of the Court of the Gentiles, and the Eastern Gate.  If I remember right it was Josephus that said, when he stood in the doorway of the Eastern Gate, if the other doors were open, he could see the curtain of the Holy of Holies.  That tallest TOWER in southeastern corner of Fort Antonia is CORRECT, because Josephus had the measurements of each Tower, and he said the Southeastern Tower was build much taller so the Roman Guards could see down into the Courtyards of the Temple, watching for signs of a rebellion about to take place.  He even recorded a large uprising that took place and the Roman Soldiers defeated them on double Colonnades Bridges.  In an Roman Legion, you had 6000 Soldiers and about 4000 support personnel.  So the artist that first drew the third Picture, for the Model in Jerusalem, NEVER bothered to look up how many people did it take to make up a Roman Legion.  So if you use Fort Antonia in the top picture, and the Temple from the third picture down in the article, of the Model of Herod's Temple in Jerusalem, it would be WAY MORE ACCURATE.

 

(https://truthinscripture.net/2017/11/03/where-was-herods-temple-temple-graphic/)

 

 

 

 

 

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The point that I have been trying to make is Archeologists, (one of them is an Israeli), have found evidence proving the so-called Temple Mount, where the Dome of the Rock sits; NEVER WAS THE LOCATION OF SOLOMON'S TEMPLE, {in my opinion}. Those Archeologists are patiently waiting for a combined Audience with the Israeli Govenment and the Temple Institute, to PRESENT their Evidence that the Dome of the ROCK does not sit on the Temple Mount but rather that location is only the CENTER OF FORT ANTONIA. AND they have evidence that the Real TEMPLE MOUNT WAS 600 Feet South of the Whaling Wall. What I am gaining as an understanding from the above videos, is apparently the Archeologists claim to even have evidence that the Temple Mount bedrock was removed by Simon bar Kokhba, the Jewish Leader at that time. 

That location is definitely LOWER than it was at the time of CHRIST, because after the Destruction in 70 AD, in the later part of 132 AD, Simon, ordered the original Temple Mount turned into a ROCK QUARRY to remove the DEFILED Bedrock of the Temple Mount. The reason Simon considered the Temple Mount defiled, was because the Roman Emperor Hadrian had built a new City (Aelia Capitolina) over the ruins of Jerusalem, and even built a Temple to Jupitor on the original site of Solomon's Temple. Aelia Capitolina remained the name of Jerusalem, until 638 AD. That is what really TRIGGERED THE WAR known as the The Bar Kokhba revolt in 132 CE.

Yeah, I had a dickens of a time finding out what CE was, and it was simple. It stands for Christian Era, in other words the same thing as AD. Apparently during that two year Period of Simon bar Kokhba RULING OVER JUDEA, he ordered that the Temple Mount be turned into a Rock Quarry to remove the bedrock defiled by the Temple of Jupiter, effectively removing Mount Zion, to where there is a debate going on in Isreal where it was for sure. They hauled the rock and dumped it in the gorges South of Jerusalem to make a fairly level road bed, giving them an easy access to Jerusalem from the South.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt)

 

Jeremiah 26:18 (HCSB)
18  “Micah the Moreshite prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah and said to all the people of Judah, ‘This is what the LORD of Hosts says: Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become ruins, and the temple mount a forested hill.’

Micah 3:12 (HCSB)
12  Therefore, because of you, Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become ruins, and the hill of the temple mount will be a thicket.
 

2 Samuel 5:7 (HCSB)
7  Yet David did capture the stronghold of Zion, that is, the city of David.

Psalm 20:2 (NCV)
2  May he send you help from his Temple and support you from Mount Zion.

Jeremiah 50:28-29 (NJB)
28  Listen! Fugitives and runaways from the country of Babylon arrive in Zion and proclaim the revenge of Yahweh our God, revenge for his Temple!
29  Call up the archers against Babylon! All you who bend the bow, invest her on all sides, leave her no way of escape. Repay her as her deeds deserve; treat her as she has treated others, for she was arrogant to Yahweh, to the Holy One of Israel.

 

ISN'T  IT CLEAR, THE TEMPLE IS IN THE WALLED STRONGHOLD OF ZION, THE CITY OF DAVID, according to Biblical Evidence?  

  

Lamentations 2:6 (HCSB)
6  He has done violence to His temple as if it were a garden booth, destroying His place of meeting. The LORD has abolished appointed festivals and Sabbaths in Zion. He has despised king and priest in His fierce anger.

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On ‎12‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 9:05 PM, George said:

Watch out for a series of destabilizing events in the Middle East that brings armies to the region ... this is when it could set the stage for Daniel 11.   Until then, we keep preaching the word -- in season and out of season!  :)   Keep pressing on ... the King is coming soon!  :)

That's right George , we gonna sound it out till our last breath .    Jesus only saves and only JESUS Saves .    

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12 hours ago, Roar said:

TRUE HISTORICAL LOCATION

Yes, George Steward debunked this hypothesis. Regardless the Temple will be built. First the elimination of the current world power is in order. Then having the vacuum filled by a universal messiah who will unite the world religions and govern them together. A line must be crossed first by the current ruling power to justify such a drastic measure. When the smoke clears there will be peace the build the Temple. Now is not the time.

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On 6/30/2020 at 1:34 PM, Roar said:

Only time and God's plan

Correct, God's plan has been laid out for us. The trick is to have a comprehensive view so a not to take verses out of context. The frame work of time have been shown in broad strokes. So, proper interpretation can only be made as events unfold in real time. Be that we keep a humble mind willing to be updated to current world conditions.

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1 hour ago, Roar said:

thy will be done oh Lord not ours

I could not agree more. Confirmation bias is difficult to recognize. It can take decades of introspection to see past them. Even then it is hard to let go of the comfort and sense of security they bring. 

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On ‎12‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 9:14 AM, George said:

Read my original post where you can go to Solomon's pools and the aqueduct system.  And then you'll also see the run off of the sacrifices would have run down the left side of the Old City via the drainage ditch on the map.  

God bless,

George

Being a newbie to Worthy, I just came across this posting/thread, and am interested.

So, George . . . I have a couple questions for you:

1. If the temple is not where the dome of the rock (which after reading articles on earlier, I agree with) AND if the temple was not on the southwestern ridge; Where do you think it was?

2. Does it even matter that we know where it was?

Thanks . . . Ray . . .

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