The Message is the worst Translation

[JTC]

I just listened to some of the translation called The Message. It was terrible especially the book of Ecclesiastes. It actually says things that are not true. This was extremely obvious to me because I had just finished Ecclesiastes in the ESV. It was so bad I had to stop. Sure Solomon was disgusted and a little sad towards the end of his life but he didn't say what this translation claims he said. Do Not Read it. I'm a Bible reader for 40 years and I was just checking out the translation. It's garbage. Even worse to a new believer. Shun this translation.

Edited December 18, 2018 by JTC

[R. Hartono]

Give some examples don't just complain

[Guest 1sheep]

16 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

Give some examples don't just complain

He isnt complaining.

He did actually give an example about Soloman.

Google it in fact do a search here on worthy because Im pretty sure it has been discussed.

The Message is not biblical in fact one could argue it is blasphemous. 

 

[Guest 1sheep]

Here is a review of The Message. Its very detailed. Final word: Yes. It is garbage. Its wintertime. It will make good kindling.

http://www.bereanresearchinstitute.com/02_Bible_Versions/BV.0101_04_Is_Eugene_Petersons_book_The_Message_Gods_Word.html

[turtletwo]

9 minutes ago, 1sheep said:

Here is a review of The Message. Its very detailed. Final word: Yes. It is garbage. Its wintertime. It will make good kindling.

http://www.bereanresearchinstitute.com/02_Bible_Versions/BV.0101_04_Is_Eugene_Petersons_book_The_Message_Gods_Word.html

Thanks for posting this. I was remembering back to a topic posted recently about this disgusting 'Bible.' I lifted some of the most glaring examples from it...

 

[turtletwo]

40 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

Give some examples don't just complain

Here are a few from a recent thread on the Message

I'd thought I'd note a few of the changes...

For whosover shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Rom 10:13 (KJV)

Everyone who calls ‘help God!’ gets help. Rom 10:13 (The Message)

 

The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? Ps 27:1 KJV

Light, space, zest–that’s God! So, with him on my side I’m fearless, afraid of no one and nothing. Ps 27:1(The Message)

 

Thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that putteth not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him. (Mic 3:5) KJV

“For as long as they’re well paid and well fed,
    the prophets preach, ‘Isn’t life wonderful! Peace to all!’
But if you don’t pay up and jump on their bandwagon,
    their ‘God bless you’ turns into ‘G- – d- – – you.’ Micah 3:5(yes it is spelled out in The Message Bible.)

 

After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen. KJV (Mat 6:9-13)
 

Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
Set the world right;
Do what’s best—
    as above, so below.
Keep us alive with three square meals.
Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
You’re in charge!
You can do anything you want!
You’re ablaze in beauty!
    Yes. Yes. Yes. (Mt 6:9-13) The Message Bible

Here is an example of how important it is to stick as close as possible to the original text. In Galatians, Paul states...

Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, "And to seeds," as [referring] to many, but [rather] to one, "And to your seed," that is, Christ. (Galatians 3:16 NASB)

As you can see, even one changed word (seeds/seed) can throw one off into an alternate direction.

[Guest 1sheep]

2 minutes ago, turtletwo said:

Thanks for posting this. I was remembering back to a topic posted recently about this disgusting 'Bible.' I lifted some of the most glaring examples from it...

 

Your most welcome. 

I remember a discussion here on worthy too but I was having difficulty locating it! 

I agree it is disgusting! 

[john1]

12 minutes ago, turtletwo said:

Here are a few from a recent thread on the Message

Glad I don't have that, thinking it's a bible.

[Jayne]

1 hour ago, JTC said:

I just listened to some of the translation called The Message. It was terrible especially the book of Ecclesiastes. It actually says things that are not true. This was extremely obvious to me because I had just finished Ecclesiastes in the ESV. It was so bad I had to stop. Sure Solomon was disgusted and a little sad towards the end of his life but he didn't say with this translation says. Do Not Read it. I'm a Bible reader for 40 years and I was just checking out the translation. It's garbage. Even worse to a new believer. Shun this translation.

The reason that you didn't like this translation is that it is not a translation. ?

It's one man's [there's a clue right there not to trust it] feelings about what it says and his rewriting it in his own words expressing those feelings.  It's a very poor choice of reading. There's nothing wrong with a person writing down scripture in a personal journal of what it means and says to you - but that doesn't a Bible translation make.

 

[OneLight]

I no longer insult God by calling it a bible.  It's not.  There have been many threads about this book.  Here is one search ... https://www.worthychristianforums.com/search/?&q="the Message bible"&page=1&search_and_or=or&sortby=relevancy

My advice, avoid it at all cost.