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to Christians there is no other king besides Jesus, but rev 12 prophesies the birth of a child, one who will rule with an iron sceptre which he also states in rev 2 and 19.

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1 minute ago, noblenut said:

to Christians there is no other king besides Jesus, but rev 12 prophesies the birth of a child, one who will rule with an iron sceptre which he also states in rev 2 and 19.

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That manchild was taken to God's throne, who on earth Can sit on God's throne? It speaks bout Jesus, not other king n not about the raptured church.

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8 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

That manchild was taken to God's throne, who on earth Can sit on God's throne? It speaks bout Jesus, not other king n not about the raptured church.

 

8 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

That manchild was taken to God's throne, who on earth Can sit on God's throne? It speaks bout Jesus, not other king n not about the raptured church.

 

8 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

That manchild was taken to God's throne, who on earth Can sit on God's throne? It speaks bout Jesus, not other king n not about the raptured church.

 

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for one its a prophesy, and Jesus was not taken up to heaven as a child nor did mary get wings to flee to the wilderness and the devil was not thrown down and convulsed the sea.  non of these things have happened.  and Jesus refers to one who conquers in rev 2 and 3 about which are repeated later.

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On 1/2/2019 at 8:55 PM, noblenut said:

for one its a prophesy, and Jesus was not taken up to heaven as a child nor did mary get wings to flee to the wilderness and the devil was not thrown down and convulsed the sea.  non of these things have happened.  and Jesus refers to one who conquers in rev 2 and 3 about which are repeated later.

The Prophecy is Rev. 12:6-17, Rev. 12:1-5 is CODE for who the players are....Jesus, the Dragon and the Woman (Israel) as seen in Genesis 37:9. It has ZERO to do with Mary, Israel birthed Jesus. 

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you are speaking complete nonsense and i have no idea wat your talking about, the prophesy is sbout a woman giving birth to a child do not go beyond wat is written and take the passage for wat it is, twisted minds distort this and talk rubbish

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2 hours ago, noblenut said:

you are speaking complete nonsense and i have no idea wat your talking about, the prophesy is sbout a woman giving birth to a child do not go beyond wat is written and take the passage for wat it is, twisted minds distort this and talk rubbish

Hi noblenut, 

Can you please adopt a more courteous tone than you have just used. If you wish to discuss various aspects of prophecy please remember that your opinion is just that, your opinion, and opinions are fallible. In the Bible we are exhorted to edify one another in love, not demolish each other in hate. Having studied Scripture and various well-known commentaries, a reasonable person will understand how difficult it is for all concerned to arrive at a consensus. With this in mind we should frame our points of view with some degree of humility so as not to invoke a divisiveness that does nothing to glorify God.  

Blessings for the future... 

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15 hours ago, noblenut said:

you are speaking complete nonsense and i have no idea wat your talking about, the prophesy is sbout a woman giving birth to a child do not go beyond wat is written and take the passage for wat it is, twisted minds distort this and talk rubbish

The book of Revelation is encoded by the Old Testament, Jesus encoded it. Now as per who the Woman is, it is ISRAEL....There is no doubt about that, I gave you the verse, you shoulda looked it up.

Genesis 37:9 And he (Joseph) dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.

Rev. 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered 3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

Notice where the CODE came from ? The SUN, MOON and 11 STARS is Israel !!  (It's 12 STARS Counting Joseph who had the DREAM that 11 Stars bowed down unto him, and his father and mother were the SUN & MOON). Thus in Rev. 12 the Sun, Moon and 12 Stars = Israel.  I have been doing this Prophecy thing 30 years brother. You can learn from your brothers/elders/sisters if you just stop thinking you already know everything, many people on this site have a lot of knowledge to share. Don't assume we are just saying things without knowledge brother. God Bless.

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there are no codes in the bible it say what it means and means what it says, u may as well accuse God of talking gibberish.  the woman is a ruler just as joseph was a ruler

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