Shilohsfoal Posted January 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Revelation Man said: You might need to study Matthew more brother. Matthew 24:1-6 is before 70 AD...............Its about the 70 AD temple and cities destruction. Matthew 24:7-14 is about the Church Age..........It has nothing to do with the 70th Week end times, Period. Matthew 24:15-31 is about the 70th Week/Tribulation period. Listening to Jesus can only help you if you don't conflate the timing, if you confuse his meanings you will still be confused even if you read the Gospels. Mathew 24 is about the coming of Christ. https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-3.htm Tell us about thy coming and about the end of the age Then Jesus proceded to tell them what they asked to hear about. Jesus has not come. But since you prophecy there shallbe peace before Christ comes,do you have any scripture to back up such a claim? https://biblehub.com/jeremiah/6-14.htm Edited January 7, 2019 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted January 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 No one will safely dwell in Israel untill this verse is fulfilled.Not untill after Christ comes will Israel dwell carelessly without walls. https://biblehub.com/zechariah/14-11.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted January 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,066 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 551 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: Mathew 24 is about the coming of Christ. https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-3.htm Tell us about thy coming and about the end of the age Then Jesus proceded to tell them what they asked to hear about. Jesus has not come. But since you prophecy there shallbe peace before Christ comes,do you have any scripture to back up such a claim? https://biblehub.com/jeremiah/6-14.htm Wrong, its about THREE THINGS, the Temple and city being destroyed, the Second Coming and the END OF THIS WORLD/End of the age. Matthew 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 1. Tell us when shall these things happen ? WHAT THINGS ? The Temple being TORN DOWN/Destroyed is the very first question !! 2. What will be the Sign of thy Coming ? This is TWO-FOLD, Jesus must tell the Jews about his Second Coming (Matt. 24:29-31) and the Rapture (Matt. 24:36-51). Jesus has to give both versions even though he doesn't explain the Rapture to these Disciples, that was for Paul's Ministry to the Gentiles. 3. And what will be the End of the World ? The End of the Age so to speak. So it seems you are forgetting Matthew 24 first and foremost was about the 70 AD event where the Temple is torn down by the Romans. Like I stated, Matthew 24:1-6 is about the Temple being Destroyed, that is why Jesus tells HIS DISCIPLES, do not let anyone deceive you thinking I am come again, this is not the Zechariah 14 event (that is basically what he is saying). Matt. 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. Jesus tells his disciples, hey, listen to me, this Roman destruction of the Temple will look like the Zechariah 14:1-2 event but it is not, that is BY AND BY. The Pharisees tried to put forth Messiah's fulfilling what Jesus said in John 5:43, that the Pharisees would reject him when he came in the Father's name, but accept another that came in his own name. The Pharisees, Jews no doubt understood that Rome was the Fourth Beast, they didn't understand the Little Horn would not come until 2000 years later, so they tried to force a Messiah onto the scene !! So Jesus told them, hey DON'T BELIEVE THAT LIE.... The end will be by and by, or later on, even when you hear from afar about the wars and rumours of wars, this is not the Zechariah 14 event !! The END IS NOT YET !! Then Jesus tells his disciples about THEIR FATE, they will pretty much all be killed, he tells them that in verse 9, he tells them many false prophets will arise (preachers/rabbis) and deceive many, this is Jesus speaking about the overall 2000 some odd year Church Age, that is why he mentions false christs/prophets THREE DISTINCT TIMES, he is not repeating himself, he's speaking about three time periods. Verse 12 says the love of many will wax cold, that is the time we are in now, cold hearted evil exists in abundance (abortion, murder, perversions, etc.). Then verse 14 tells us this......BUT he that endures, the same shall be saved, this is speaking about those that overcome the world by the blood of the lamb during the Church Age, it is not about those that ENDURE the Tribulation period. Finally Jesus tells us about the Gospel being preached unto all the world, and THEN THE END WILL COME (Meaning the End Times/70th Week/Tribulation period). Then and only then do we transition to the END TIMES. Verses 15-31 are THE END TIMES, that is why we hear once again about false christs, but this time it is the FALSE CHRIST and FALSE PROPHET and these two work Miracles !! So the THREE MENTIONS of False Christs/Prophets are THREE DISTINCT TIME PERIODS. 1.) Matt. 24:1-6 is about the Temple, 70 AD. 2.) Matt. 24:7-14 is about the Church Age Period. 3.) Matt. 24:15-31 is about the Tribulation Period. Edited January 7, 2019 by Revelation Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted January 7, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.48 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Revelation Man said: Wrong, its about THREE THINGS, the Temple and city being destroyed, the Second Coming and the END OF THIS WORLD/End of the age. Matthew 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 1. Tell us when shall these things happen ? WHAT THINGS ? The Temple being TORN DOWN/Destroyed is the very first question !! 2. What will be the Sign of thy Coming ? This is TWO-FOLD, Jesus must tell the Jews about his Second Coming (Matt. 24:29-31) and the Rapture (Matt. 24:36-51). Jesus has to give both versions even though he doesn't explain the Rapture to these Disciples, that was for Paul's Ministry to the Gentiles. 3. And what will be the End of the World ? The End of the Age so to speak. So it seems you are forgetting Matthew 24 first and foremost was about the 70 AD event where the Temple is torn down by the Romans. Like I stated, Matthew 24:1-6 is about the Temple being Destroyed, that is why Jesus tells HIS DISCIPLES, do not let the deceive you thinking am come again, this is not the Zechariah 14 event (that is basically what he is saying). Matt. 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. Jesus tells his disciples, hey, listen to me, this Roman destruction of the Temple will look like the Zechariah 14:1-2 event bit that is BY AND BY. The Pharisees tried to put forth Messiah's fulfilling what Jesus said in John 5:53, that the Pharisees would reject him when he came in the Father's name, but accept another that came in his own name. The Pharisees, Jews no doubt understood that Rme was the Fourth Beast, they didn't understand the Little Horn would come 2000 years later, so they tried to force a Messiah onto the scene !! So Jesus told them, hey DON'T BELIEVE THAT LIE.... The end will be by and by, or later on, even when you hear from afar about the wars and rumours of wars, this is not the Zechariah 14 event !! The END IS NOT YET !! Then Jesus tells his disciples about THEIR FATE, they will pretty much all be killed, he tells them that in verse 9, he tells them many false prophets will arise (preachers/rabbis) and deceive many, this is Jesus speaking about the overall 2000 yer Church Age, that is why he mentions false christs/prophets THREE DISTINCT TIMES, he is not repeating himself, he's speaking about three time periods. Verse 12 says the love of many will wax cold, that is the time we are in now, cold hearted evil exists in abundance. Then verse 14 tells us this......BUT he that endures, the same shall be saved, this is speaking about those that overcome the world by the blood of the lamb during the Church age, it is not about those that ENDURE the Tribulation period. Finally Jesus tells us about the Gospel being preached unto all the world, and THEN THE END WILL COME (Meaning the End Times/70th Week/Tribulation period). Then and only then do we transition to the END TIMES. Verses 15-31 are THE END TIMES, that is why we hear once again about false christs, but this time it is the FALSE CHRIST and FALSE PROPHET and these two work Miracles !! So the THREE MENTIONS of False Christs/Prophets are THREE DISTINCT TIME PERIODS. 1.) Matt. 24:1-6 is about the Temple, 70 AD. 2.) Matt. 24:7-14 is about the Church Age Period. 3.) Matt. 24:1-31 is about the Tribulation Period. So ,where is the scripture backing up your prophecy concerning israels peace and safety before Christ comes.I didnr see it anywhere. Here is my verse showing Gods word when Jerusalem shall be safe and secure. https://biblehub.com/zechariah/14-11.htm Note,This is after Christ comes.Not before. Edited January 7, 2019 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted January 8, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,103 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,548 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted January 8, 2019 On 1/3/2019 at 2:57 PM, Shilohsfoal said: I only want you to consider one thing.Its not nature that destroys Egypt and the middle east. Its a man and his millitary. It will be both: the Daniel 11:40-45 war first, and the great physical cataclysms right after, when the 6th Seal takes place at the coming of the Lord in the clouds. The latter cataclysm will be what diverts the Nile for 40 years. Isaiah 19:1 The burden of Egypt. Behold, the LORD rideth upon a swift cloud, and shall come into Egypt: and the idols of Egypt shall be moved at his presence, and the heart of Egypt shall melt in the midst of it. ... 5 And the waters shall fail from the sea, and the river shall be wasted and dried up. Isaiah 11:15 And the LORD shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod. Rev. 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; ... 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. On 1/4/2019 at 3:03 AM, Diaste said: Although revelation is very clear of Armegeddon taking place before Gogs invasion,still many do not believe revelation could be accurate. They simply can,not comprehend the order of things. Incorrect: the battle of Armageddon IS the Gog invasion IS Zech 14. Both Ezekiel 39:20 and Rev. 19:18 speak of the birds eating the dead horses of the invaders. The Daniel 11:40 war won't involve armies on horseback: at that time there will still be military vehicles. Ezek. 38:22 and Rev. 16:21 speak of the great hailstones from heaven. Both Zech. 14:13 and Ezek. 38:21 speak about every man's sword being against his brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaste Posted January 9, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 67 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,625 Content Per Day: 1.99 Reputation: 2,366 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/17/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2019 13 hours ago, WilliamL said: On 1/4/2019 at 3:03 AM, Diaste said: Although revelation is very clear of Armegeddon taking place before Gogs invasion,still many do not believe revelation could be accurate. They simply can,not comprehend the order of things. Not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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