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An Analysis of End Time Biblical Prophecies.


Pre-amble and Introduction.

If ever there was a subject that is filled with controversy, this will be it. I have found that I can take 20 well schooled Bible Scholars and no two of them will be in full agreement. Yes they will settle on main topics that are self evident but the division come in regards to the timing and overlap of the separate events.

In fact at lot of people know more about the different stances, which now all have their own names, than they know about the actual supporting scriptures. eg; pre-Trib, mid-Trib or post-Trib rapture. Obviously only one stance can be correct, which also means the other two have to be wrong indicating their theology is off. Just as well that our salvation is not dependant on our ignorance or cleverness in knowledge of the scriptures, but upon our faith in Jesus and his sacrifice on the cross.

To add to the mix is the fact that most events found in the book of Revelation, also has its counterpart describing the same event in the old Testament as well. There is also an overlooked situation where the destiny of the Israelites are different from that of the Gentiles. Only the 12 tribes of Israel were represented at the covenant that made up the old Testament under Moses, where as the Gentile nations come under the new Covenant established by Christ. Psalm number 2 explains this rather well. In fact this psalm is very prophetic and points to the end of age judgments.

 

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Psa 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
Psa 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
Psa 2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

 

All that being said, what I wish to do here, is to give a time line for the progression of the end time events as laid out in scripture with the relevant scriptural passages as proofs. Digging too deep is avoided so as to enable the narrative to progress in a logical and straight forward way that the new Christian can follow easily. Once the basic outline is grasped the saint can always go back over to dig out the greater details on their own. At least this should give the correct questions to ask !

The Beginning of the End.

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Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

 

The end time events have to begin at some point in our historical time line and it has become quite obvious that this marker has already passed. It has also become obvious that the end times are going to drag out as a long drawn out marathon, not a short sprint to the end.

Jesus warned us about this in the parable about the ten virgins and their lamps. This is worth taking a look at;
 

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Mat 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Mat 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Mat 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
Mat 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
Mat 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
Mat 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Mat 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
Mat 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
Mat 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
Mat 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

 

Now the virgins represent the saints, they all perceived that the time of Christs return was close which is why they gathered their lamps in the first place. They all came together so as to meet him when he came but there was a delay resulting in them all slacking off. However when the call went out that the time of his return had actually come, only half of the number were still properly prepared. We are currently in that delay !

During the 1800's missionaries went out to all parts of the world along with the explorers and colonisers. This has been described by theological scholars as the greatest age of missions. At this point in time there is no nation in this world that has not heard of Christ. Many have rejected the message and some nations drawn back from following Jesus while the academia of the world has gone out of its way to disprove Christ. Even the nations that were once considered the bastion of Christendom have drawn back opening the door for the rise of Satanism.

But the fact remains all have heard of Christ and the gospel of salvation. And right on cue the end time events start to unfold through the natural course of events. The reason there is so much aggression directed against Jesus and his saints is because we are in the end times, what else are we to expect at this time ? Jesus warned of this period as progressing to when the night falls and no man is able to preach.
 

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Joh 9:4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.

 

The First Signs.

Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

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Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

 

The very first thing that Jesus warned about was the rise of false teachers and prophets to corrupt the simplicity of the Gospel. Even to the point of some claiming to be Christ himself. This basically started while the original Apostles were still living and has only gotten worse. At this time the promotion of the false has become an avalanche.

In the last days here we have reached the point where there is now an entire false church system operating along side the real. The best way to tell the difference is what does the body in question teach about Mammon. In order to understand the difference between the kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Satan you really do need to understand the significance of mammon and its levers of operation.

Then the next marker for the end days is wars, think the first two world wars, what is significant here is that they were fought on a global scale. This is very significant and is what separates these wars from the wars of the past. In the past it was basically one tribal group looting the other. But here it was all done with a global view and rule of law even though the laws were in conflict. It placed in the minds of men the idea of a global government so as to prevent these wars. A concept that was not really plausible before.

The industrial age has enabled mankind to slaughter itself on an industrial scale and the use of money provided under Usury is the chains that binds all nations in a common net. The concept of a single world government along with the striving for world domination is what points to the end of the age wars. Jesus spoke in terms of global events, not regional, which was not possible before.

Along with the wars would also come natural disasters. The size and frequency of earthquakes has definitely increased. So has pestilence and famine. With global travel common now the pestilence is spread globally very quickly. We are also running into diseases never seen before like Ebola and AIDS. Bio weapons coming out the labs is also new to nature but are produced for these last days.

However we are told that this is just the beginning of sorrows. Indicating that we have this start then there is a period of time to pass before the rest comes crashing down on us.

The Main Event Begins.

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Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

 

I am writing this in December 2018. You can see the hatred of Christians growing world wide, It is organized and very violent, In fact there is no shortage of the saints getting their heads lopped off around the globe. Satanism is now open and on the rise. Christmas has become a yearly battle fought both in the courts and on social media, an entire generation has been indoctrinated to be anti Christian through the education system. Who would have thought that a season for peace on earth and good will towards men would be so hated.

This is so obviously spiritually driven that there is no denying that the kingdom of Satan is behind it. Which would indicate that the event in the verses below must have occurred; The woman that brought forth the man child is the nation of Israel, This nation is currently being blamed for all the troubles in the world right now. The man child is Jesus who founded the church so by extension Satan will be going after the saints for persecution as well.
 

 
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Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Rev 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
 

 

 

 

 




There is one thing that may prove of comfort to the saints here. The kingdom of Satan is not actually becoming more powerful, only more concentrated. As the demons are kicked out of every where else, so they end up here as their fall back position. We are simply experiencing more demons per square mile than before. Even though this is a bit harsh for us and getting harder, the demons are actually getting the worse end of it and eventually there will not even be room for them here either.

The game plan that the kingdom of Satan has to combat the saints during these last days is also laid out in the book of Daniel. Its worth looking at.
 

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Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
Dan 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

 

Well we are now at the time of the end so these words are for us. We are the Holy people and the power that is to be scattered is ours. No the authority we have in Christ is not going to be annulled but how we will have to wield it, will be different in these end times.

The word translated as scattered is this one below;

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H5310
נפץ
nâphats
naw-fats'
A primitive root; to dash to pieces, or scatter: - be beaten in sunder, break (in pieces), broken, dash (in pieces), cause to be discharged, dispersed, be overspread, scatter.

 

In other words we are to be worn down by being subjected to repeated blows. These repeated blows will be psychological as well as physical, This is why Jesus said that only those that endure to the end will be saved. Along with the constant warnings about deceptions, false prophets and persecutions.
 

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Mar 13:12  Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.

 

Look closely at how the family structure and the basic definition thereof, is being broken down by the state and the children encouraged to spy on the parents. The intrusion of the state into the family unit we see today is not normal, it is something new and very destructive. This is only going to be getting worse with the social credit scores coming in.

The scriptures simply state that something will happen and to look out for it, it does not state why it happens or how it comes about. Well we can see how the betrayals between family members have come about. An over reaching government department did it. The more first world a country is, the worse the effects are !

Another aspect to keep an eye on is the law. This regards the secular law and how it has been abused during our time;
 

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Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

 

It is to be noted that there is no greater tool in the arsenal of evil than the rule of law. Most of the greatest atrocities of this time have been carried out with the power of the law as backing. At this time we have a two tear legal system, One for those doing the evil and another for the rest of us so that those doing the evil get the backing of the law, to use against the common citizens of the nations. This selective abuse of power has a very negative effect on the saint which is why we are told that we need to endure to the end. We see this because the end times is currently in full swing.

If you are wondering why everything is going so queer and gay at this time, there is a reason that is found in Daniel as well. Below is a description of some of the attributes associated with the anti-christ. The one that will set up the abomination of desolation in the Jewish Temple.
 

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Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Dan 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

 

When it says he will have no desire of woman it means he will not be attracted to them, he will be a gay himself. He will be a self centred, self absorbed, gay megalomaniac. Now you know why the schools are pushing fifty something sexes and filling the workplace with snowflakes that are permanently offended, They are grooming this generation for his appearance. This is how close to the end we are !

The Great Tribulation.

 
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Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

 


Now we are going to be going through a lot of tribulations in the last days but the Great Tribulation is going to be something different, It will not be troubles caused by Satan coming against the saints but By God himself coming against the world in general. The trigger will be when the anti-christ sets up an image of the beast in the Jewish third temple, thus bringing the daily sacrifices to an end

 
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Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
Dan 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.


Now the timing of this event is really important as a lot of other prophecies get their cue from this event. It is also very close in time from now. So using logical deduction lets work this out.

Israel became a nation state again in 1947. They also now have parcel control over Jerusalem and are getting ready to rebuild their Temple, the third Temple. They have raised the money for it, they have remade the utensils for the sacrifices, they have retrained the Levites to carry out the priestly duties. They are re-breeding the red heifers. The only thing holding them back is that they will need full control of Jerusalem in order to rebuild the actual Temple. This is not going to happen until the time of the gentiles comes to an end.
 

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Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

 

The time of the gentiles is the Church age, the age of grace. This time of gentiles will only come to an end with the rapture. That is when the age of grace ends and the door closed. After the rapture everything returns back to the law given through Moses and of course this is when the daily sacrifices will be required to restart, not much point before this time.

Now the rapture of the saints under the new covenant under the blood of Jesus takes place during the opening of the sixth seal. So the re-establishing the daily sacrifices has to happen after this point in time. Now we need an end point in time which we can find here;
 

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Rev 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
Rev 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
Rev 15:4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

 

Now the Israelites get their own reaping or rapture in their own time where they end up before the throne of God the Father. Note that this group sing the song of Moses, Only the Jews will be doing that, not the saints redeemed of Christ. The saints are all about the Blood and confession of faith.

This scene takes place just before the angels go forth to pour out the seven bowls of wrath on the earth. So we know that the Great tribulation had to have occurred before this time because the Jews had to have been carrying out their daily sacrifices on earth in order for the abomination of desolation to take place. And the Temple will only be in operation after the time of the gentiles has past. So this means the Great Tribulation has to take place sometime during the blowing of the trumpets .

The onset of the great tribulation is going to be very rapid. Not much in the way of warning, The scriptures tell the Jews that as soon as they see the abomination take place in the Temple they are to flee to high ground. If they are in a tall building then they are to stay at the top, do not go down stairs to collect their coat even. So what ever God the Father is going to be letting loose because of this act of desecration is going to be something ground hugging that is heavier than air.

Also to note is that it is the Jews that had to overcome the Mark of the Beast to be counted worthy to be gathered before God the Fathers throne in heaven. No mention is made of the saints having to over come the mark at their gathering before Christ so logical deduction says that the full mark of the beast will only come in during the time of the Trumpets as well. Considering that we are already seeing the development of it now, along with the desire by the UN to use it, shows just how close we are to the end.

The Rapture.

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Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

 

The word Rapture is a name given to the event where Jesus comes to collect his bride. The church made up of all the redeemed saints. All of them, the living and those that have already died over the last two thousand years. Thus we get the first resurrection consisting of the saints that are already judged in Christ. In the gospels it talks of the Lord gathering his elect, while in the book of revelation it describes the event as the reaping of the earths harvest. As can be seen from the verses below. However for this study I will stick with the word Rapture as the saints all have a clear understanding of its meaning and connotation.

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Rev 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
Rev 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
Rev 14:16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

 
The tribulations against the saints in the form of the persecutions and betrayals will start to wind down and this will be immediately followed by cosmic disturbances. For the Sun and the Moon to be darkened indicates that something will be passing between the earth and the sun so as to create a shadow. The stars falling would probably be a large meteorite shower, probably triggered by what ever is making the shadow.


But this will be the very last event before the Rapture which is what also ties it to the opening of the sixth seal in revelation. The same events are described there regards the cosmic disturbances. But more detail.

Now the reaction of the worlds population to this event is going to be very interesting. All the nations of the world are going to see the return of Jesus to gather his own and they are going to be going into mourning. They will recognize Jesus for whom he is, but he is also the last person they expected to see. They had had great fun mocking and bulling and killing the religious nuts and did not for a moment believe anything the scriptures said was based in reality. Now there he is directing an army of angels from his position in the clouds.

If any of you have been interacting on social media you will know all about those that have no time for sky daddies or spaghetti monsters etc. Collage professors all over have gone out of their way to teach their students not to follow superstition and embrace the scientific method where any quarter given to a deity is rejected. Basically if you profess any faith in God then you will not graduate but rituals to Satan is all right. What else would we expect in the last days ?

Now I believe this is important for the saints to know and when it happens you can be a comfort to those around you. Jesus said that he would send his angels to gather his elect from the four winds and from one end of heaven to the other. To gather from the four winds is all points of the compass which means anywhere on this earth, but the word translated as heaven comes from the one below;
 

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οὐρανός
ouranos
oo-ran-os'
Perhaps from the same as G3735 (through the idea of elevation); the sky; by extension heaven (as the abode of God); by implication happiness, power, eternity; specifically the Gospel (Christianity): - air, heaven ([-ly]), sky.

 

It is a place off the earth, way up in the sky, what we understand today as outer space. This means that the saints will be traveling off world before the time of the rapture, whether under our own steam or aided by others, it does not matter. Just know that the Lord has made provision for this event that is to come and that the saint is not to despair if they are taken away before the rapture as they will not be left out the event because of distance.

Now events on earth at the time of the rapture is important to look at. Yes there will be a lot of persecution against the saints but the heathen are not going to be in any great disturbance. The actual Rapture event is going to come right out the blue with absolutely no warning what so ever. We are simply told that when we see the end of age events happening then know that we are in the right season for it to happen but give no heed to date setting etc.
 

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Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

 

A comparison is made with how things were happening in the days of Noah. The social order will be undisturbed and in full swing, people marrying and going about their daily business so commerce will be in full swing. The civilization of the day will be trucking along completely oblivious of what is about to transpire, Then wham the gathering takes place. Saints gone and the rest that mocked them left behind in a world that returns to the law with only the nation of Israel left to represent God on the earth. Naturally this situation will allow the anti-christ to rise to prominence in the confused chaos that follows the event.

There is however some limits on how long it will take for these events to transpire;
 

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Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

 

It is expected that the generation that sees the start of these events will be the same generation that sees the fulfilment of them. We live in the time where it has become obvious that the end of the age events and technologies have started to emerge so that means that our generation is the one that is going to see the end of the age unfold. We are the ones, this is it !

The Changing Condition of the Church

In the early chapters of the book of Revelation Jesus sends messages to seven of the newly established churches at the birth of Christianity in the first century ad. But as time has passed it has also become obvious that the order in which these messages were given correspond to the general condition of the church in each successive age of its history over the past two thousand years.

The second last message was to a church with open doors which corresponds to the missionary outreach of the seventeen and eighteen hundreds. But the last church is to represent our time now, and thus it is to be a warning of the problems we are to face as the end of the age saints. It’s obviously totally accurate and so I have included it for a quick study here.
 

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Rev 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Rev 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Rev 3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

 

Most of the problems in the last days church is caused by the pastors and priests. They incorporated the church and turned it into a business for profit. Hence there is a limit placed on preaching only that which will not chase away the customers. And the congregation will be the ones looking out for that kind of preacher.
 

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2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

 

The first warning will be that the last church will be lukewarm. Well the saints are taught all about Gods love and gifts and promises, but nothing about his severity or judgments. The saints will be taught about being the kings kids, not about the persecution and the cost associated with the faith. The fear of God gets lost when the saints start to see God as being there for their benefit and the understanding of what it means to serve God gets lost. The net result is a social church of convenience, not a vibrant body that will sing in the fires of persecution.

The next warning is that the saints will be embracing the riches of the world and equating it with the blessings of God. You cannot serve God and Mammon, the two philosophes are opposed to one another. The riches that endure are the fruits of the spirit and the gifts of the spirit. Physical stuff and prestige among men are not riches that have any endurance. They are the deceit of the world system. But what do we see coming out the modern day church. Faith being twisted into a force to attract worldly wealth to you. By that standard every drug seller and gangster with a million dollars must be very holy. Which obviously they are not !It is nothing more than occult practices that have been sanitized and pushed into church philosophies. In other words we end up with a false church. The end of age church will suffer from a lack of sound doctrine and Jesus will be spitting its members out his mouth unless they get their act together.

A look at the Opening of the Seals

The seals of Revelation chapter six are basically just repeating the events that Jesus warned about in the Gospels. But they come in a nice order that points out the progress of the events in a nice time line. These are events that originate in this earth. It is the kingdom of Satan coming against the saints of the kingdom of God. The first seal is what started the wars and the rumours of wars;
 

 
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Rev 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
Rev 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

 


Now you do not go forth conquering, and to conquer unless you intend to dominate and rule over that which you bring into subjection. The one doing this has a crown which indicates that we are looking at a recognized authority. An authority that wants to bring all nations under central government, in other words a global empire. The white horse gives some indication of who the rider may be, Some say the white horse rode out the White House while others say It is the White Lodge. Considering the White lodge has had control of the White House through its initiates, it makes little difference. Others yet say it represents the white nations that went out and colonised the other nations thus modernizing them and making them globally aware.

Well the first seal ends up being opposed by the second seal;
 

 
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Rev 6:3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
Rev 6:4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
 

 


This second rider has no crown. He is not a recognized authority which would indicate that the rider is a grass roots movement that rises up to resist the power of the kings striving for global government. This movement is given a great sword to fight with and it does take peace away from the earth indicating that there is a lot of fighting between many groups. Think of all the different liberation movements all over the place. The horse is coloured red, the same colour as the communists have adopted. There is no winner between these two horses ! But as Jesus said, there will be wars and rumours of wars, but these are just the beginning of sorrows.

 
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Rev 6:5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

 


A black horse represents a time of darkness and hardships. The balances represent rationing, a means of measurement of quantity. The amounts of product that can be bought for a penny indicates that the rationing will be carried out by control of the amount of money available. To not harm the oil and wine indicates that the better things will be available but out of economic reach to the masses. It appears that we are looking at artificially controlled shortages here. Probably though a form of taxation and endless rules and regulations. Already we can see the evaporation of the middle class world wide. There is an economic unbalance in the world today where the cost of living is always set just a little higher than the regular incomes and there is no savings for emergencies or ability to build up any real disaster endurance. Get sick go broke.

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Rev 6:7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

 

Now the word translated as Pale Horse is this one;
 

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chlōros
khlo-ros'
From the same as G5514; greenish, that is, verdant, dun-colored: - green, pale.

 

Beware the green movement, it has already stated that it wants to drop the worlds population by billions, to save the earth of course !For the rider to be called Death indicates that the killing is going to be deliberate and planned. It will be harvesting humans for Hell. It will be using any means available to do the killing. Take note of the culture of death that has sprung up in our modern society. Skulls and the dead in art and trinkets and clothing and songs all over the place. Now even cannibalism is being given a push along with every sexual perversion and occult practices, and it’s the worlds leaders that are being caught up in it !

This is not the way our civilization should have logically matured, But Satans influence has become so pervasive that we have become nothing more than technological savages.

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Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

 

Right from the start of the Christian faith the world has been against those belonging to the faith. In the early Roman days we were simply fed to the Lions in the circus for entertainment. But as the number of saints increased so the persecutions died down to a simmer where the worlds reaction was more that of mocking than killing. Jesus did warn his disciples about this;

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Luk 21:16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
Luk 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
Luk 21:18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
Luk 21:19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

 

However in these last days the persecutions are going to rise to a grand crescendo. The world is going to throw whatever it is able against the saints so as to get rid of the faith altogether. The saints are going to have to go through this, this is when the night that Jesus talked about comes. The objective here is to save our souls, not our bodies. We need to keep that in mind. Loose your soul and all is lost, save your soul and all else becomes replaceable.

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Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

 

There is way more to the sixth seal than just these few verses but it is better to look at this section in small bites. It starts off with a massive earthquake that shifts the earths mantle so all mountains and islands end up at different longitude and latitude positions. There is also a lot of cosmic disturbances which is probably also the trigger event for the earthquake. This also talks of something between the sun and the earth causing a shadow. But the most interesting part is that the worlds human population is bolting for cover, not because of the cosmic events but because they are trying to hide from God and Christ. They recognize and understand that they have done wrong and who is giving them their attention.Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

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Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
Rev 7:5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.

 

These events are still a part of the sixth seal. From the description Jesus gave in the gospel of Matthew we can see that the cosmic disturbances are associated with the Rapture that will follow right after. When this happens the time of the gentiles ends and the old testament covenant restarts for the last week. The daily sacrifices in the temple will restart etc. With the spirit filled saints gone the Israelites will need to take over. It appears that God the Father is going to be doing the choosing with the sealing of this 144000. 12000 from each of the 12 tribes.

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Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
Rev 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
Rev 7:11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
Rev 7:12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

 

This is still a part of the sixth seal. What we are looking at here is the redeemed saints before the throne of Christ. In other words these are the events just after the rapture. Notice that their being there is attributed to the Blood of the Lamb. Nothing about works, keeping the law or over coming the Mark of the Beast. A huge multitude.

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Rev 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
Rev 8:2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
Rev 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
Rev 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
Rev 8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.
Rev 8:6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.

 

This is the last of the seven seals. Age of grace has ended and we have the return of the law. God the Father is the judge of the law and as such he holds sway over the earth through his own chosen nation, Israel. Now things on earth are going to change as well. This seventh seal is where the angels get set to blow their trumpets in warning to the inhabitants of the earth. In the seals it was the people of the earth coming against those that wanted to follow Christ. In the Trumpets it is God coming against those same people that persecuted the saints and were left behind by the rapture. .

A Look at the Trumpets.
 

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Rev 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

 
The first trumpet burns up all the green grass and a third of the trees. No input from anything on earth. This is purely an act of God.
 
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Rev 8:8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
Rev 8:9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.

 

The second trumpet sounds like a giant meteor crashing into one of the seven seas. An act of God that destroys a third of what ever is there.

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Rev 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
Rev 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

 

Once again a third part of the target. In this case fresh water and with it all poisoned people die.

 
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Rev 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.
Rev 8:13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

 


Now this would be mid Great Tribulation. As in Daniels last week. It is probably somewhere around this point that the Abomination of Desolation is set up. But no one will know for sure until the event actually happens. Once again we see the amount of a third. There is no indication of how long this will last but obviously food crop production will be effect if for any length of time. It is also at this time that angels start to speak directly to men.

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Rev 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
Rev 9:2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
Rev 9:3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
Rev 9:5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
Rev 9:6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
Rev 9:7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
Rev 9:8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
Rev 9:9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
Rev 9:10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
Rev 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

 

This seems like a direct punishment, probably for the Mark of the Beast. This hoard of insects that sting like a scorpion are intelligently controlled by a demon. But Men not being able to die, now that is something new. We are not likely to know how this comes about until the time but there is speculation that it may be the unintended consequence of sciences pursuit of the singularity.

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Rev 9:13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
Rev 9:14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
Rev 9:15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
Rev 9:16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
Rev 9:17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
Rev 9:18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
Rev 9:19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
Rev 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
Rev 9:21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

 
The Euphrates river has its start in the highlands of Turkey, passes down through Syria and into Iraq where it empties into the Persian gulf. The part of the Middle east that is really being stirred up and antagonized right now. They are to be spiritually driven and for them to be able to kill off a third of the human race means that they probably are going to be using weapons of mass destruction. What excuse actually sparks the conflict off is still future, but as the nation of Israel is still around it will probably have something to do with them.

The hardness of hart should also be noted here as well. All men know that Jesus is and God is real because of the events of the rapture. But despite every thing that is happening around them they have no intention of even attempting to come to repentance. They are happy in their barbarity.

The seventh Trumpet covers far more ground than the first six and covers an over view of other events that occur during the blowing of the trumpets which are not a direct result of the actual trumpets them selves. Again it will be best to cover these in smaller sections, but before that I just want to skip to the end, To just before the bowls of wrath.

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Rev 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
Rev 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
Rev 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
Rev 15:4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

 

Now those verses are located at the end of the trumpets and just before the pouring out of the bowls of wrath. This group of people are standing before the throne of God, not the throne of Christ where the saints of the church are found, This is the group that was left on the earth after the rapture, mostly the Jews who applied the law and reinstated the daily sacrifices.

They are identified as those that overcame the Mark of the Beast etc. They operated under works, not grace. ie; they were under the law. They sang the song of Moses and the song of the lamb. Only the Jews sing the song of Moses, not the church. The fact that they are singing the song of the Lamb as well indicates that they have accepted Jesus as their Messiah which also makes him their king over them as well, as in the throne of David which Jesus is going to inherit.

Anyway at this point all of Gods people are off the earth and only the people that have submitted to Satan remain for the pouring out of the bowls of wrath. Now to return to the other events that are shown originating from the earth during the last Trumpet.
Rev 10:5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,

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Rev 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

 

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Well do you agree with it or hate it or want to burn it or frame it ;

 

Some reaction, anything !

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10 minutes ago, Traveler said:

Well do you agree with it or hate it or want to burn it or frame it ;

 

Some reaction, anything !

It's too much. In conversation, one doesn't talk for half an hour until they give someone else a chance. This leaves no room for back and forth DISCUSSION.

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8 minutes ago, PepperS said:

It's too much. In conversation, one doesn't talk for half an hour until they give someone else a chance. This leaves no room for back and forth DISCUSSION.

 

26 minutes ago, Traveler said:

Well do you agree with it or hate it or want to burn it or frame it ;Some reaction, anything !

Sigh...

The last days will last until the Lord returns. Life goes on. Hysteria doesn't help. Dogmatism divides. Obsession is unbalanced. Here's a good passage to ponder again and again as necessary...Eph 1:3-12
(3)  Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
(4)  According as he has chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
(5)  Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
(6)  To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
(7)  In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
(8)  Wherein he has abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
(9)  Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he has purposed in himself:
(10)  That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

(11)  In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who works all things after the counsel of his own will:
(12)  That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

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14 hours ago, PepperS said:

It's too much. In conversation, one doesn't talk for half an hour until they give someone else a chance. This leaves no room for back and forth DISCUSSION.

I guess it was a very long and extended version of a posttrib rapture belief - a belief which I disagree with.  

The truth is, Jesus coming FOR His church might well be the very next event on the horizon. 

Did you not notice that Paul's timing for the rapture - the one HE wrote of - will come a moment before God's wrath gets poured out? 

Paul gives us a paradigm - two different results for two different groups of people. A moment after the dead in Christ rise, Paul tells us that those alive and in Christ will get raptured; but those living in darkness will be left behind to face sudden destruction...not some time later, but at that very moment. One group gets called up; another group gets caught in sudden destruction - an earthquake caused by the dead in Christ rising. Then Paul tells us this sudden destruction is the start of God's wrath on earth. Rapture / wrath in that order; nothing between. 

Where then does God's wrath begin in Revelation? At the 6th seal. Where does the 70th week begin in Revelation? AT the 7th seal. In other words, the rapture is pretrib. God is not going to set any appointments for us with His wrath.

Sorry, I meant to click on Traveler's last post.

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21 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

Paul gives us a paradigm - two different results for two different groups of people. A moment after the dead in Christ rise, Paul tells us that those alive and in Christ will get raptured; but those living in darkness will be left behind to face sudden destruction...not some time later, but at that very moment. One group gets called up; another group gets caught in sudden destruction - an earthquake caused by the dead in Christ rising. Then Paul tells us this sudden destruction is the start of God's wrath on earth. Rapture / wrath in that order; nothing between

Where then does God's wrath begin in Revelation? At the 6th seal. Where does the 70th week begin in Revelation? AT the 7th seal. In other words, the rapture is pretrib. God is not going to set any appointments for us with His wrath.

Brilliant! until the last part. Yes, the rapture comes before God's wrath is poured out. But God's wrath is NOT the tribulation of the Church; the tribulation of the Church is brought about by Satan's wrath:

Rev. 12:12 “Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

God tells those of his people that they must endure the tribulation:

Rev. 6:9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.

Luke 21:36 “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass [that is, the trials of the trib.], and to stand before the Son of Man.”

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On 1/9/2019 at 9:58 AM, Traveler said:

If ever there was a subject that is filled with controversy, this will be it. I have found that I can take 20 well schooled Bible Scholars and no two of them will be in full agreement. Yes they will settle on main topics that are self evident but the division come in regards to the timing and overlap of the separate events.

In fact at lot of people know more about the different stances, which now all have their own names, than they know about the actual supporting scriptures. eg; pre-Trib, mid-Trib or post-Trib rapture. Obviously only one stance can be correct, which also means the other two have to be wrong indicating their theology is off. Just as well that our salvation is not dependant on our ignorance or cleverness in knowledge of the scriptures, but upon our faith in Jesus and his sacrifice on the cross.

To add to the mix is the fact that most events found in the book of Revelation, also has its counterpart describing the same event in the old Testament as well. There is also an overlooked situation where the destiny of the Israelites are different from that of the Gentiles. Only the 12 tribes of Israel were represented at the covenant that made up the old Testament under Moses, where as the Gentile nations come under the new Covenant established by Christ. Psalm number 2 explains this rather well. In fact this psalm is very prophetic and points to the end of age judgments.

There really is no New Covenant, it's only "New" in that it is not the Law as given to Moses, but Moses' Laws was given 430 years after the Promise was given unto Abraham, the "Promise" was of the coming Messiah to take away the sins of mankind, it was not the Law as given to Moses, so the original Covenant was THE PROMISE, not The Law. 

On 1/9/2019 at 9:58 AM, Traveler said:

The end time events have to begin at some point in our historical time line and it has become quite obvious that this marker has already passed. It has also become obvious that the end times are going to drag out as a long drawn out marathon, not a short sprint to the end.

Jesus warned us about this in the parable about the ten virgins and their lamps. This is worth taking a look at;

The End Times begin after the Church has Preached the Gospel unto the ends of the earth, then we are Raptured to Heaven, then and only then can the End Times start. 

On 1/9/2019 at 9:58 AM, Traveler said:

Now the virgins represent the saints, they all perceived that the time of Christs return was close which is why they gathered their lamps in the first place. They all came together so as to meet him when he came but there was a delay resulting in them all slacking off. However when the call went out that the time of his return had actually come, only half of the number were still properly prepared. We are currently in that delay !

During the 1800's missionaries went out to all parts of the world along with the explorers and colonisers. This has been described by theological scholars as the greatest age of missions. At this point in time there is no nation in this world that has not heard of Christ. Many have rejected the message and some nations drawn back from following Jesus while the academia of the world has gone out of its way to disprove Christ. Even the nations that were once considered the bastion of Christendom have drawn back opening the door for the rise of Satanism.

But the fact remains all have heard of Christ and the gospel of salvation. And right on cue the end time events start to unfold through the natural course of events. The reason there is so much aggression directed against Jesus and his saints is because we are in the end times, what else are we to expect at this time ? Jesus warned of this period as progressing to when the night falls and no man is able to preach.
 

Those left of course are Christians that were not ready to make Heaven, they did not have enough Oil (Holy Spirit).  The Virgins that make the Wedding get Married in Rev. 19 and return with Christ Jesus to defeat the Beast.

On 1/9/2019 at 9:58 AM, Traveler said:

The First Signs.

Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Tell us WHEN shall these things (Temple thrown down) be, AND when is your return AND what is he end of the world/age.  So the first thing Jesus does is tell them about the 70 AD event, verses 4-6 tell us that. Verses 7-14 is about the Church Age, verses 15-31 is about the Tribulation Period, verses 36-51 is about the Coming Rapture that Matthew was never told about, only Paul was given the Harazo/Rapture.

On 1/9/2019 at 9:58 AM, Traveler said:

The very first thing that Jesus warned about was the rise of false teachers and prophets to corrupt the simplicity of the Gospel. Even to the point of some claiming to be Christ himself. This basically started while the original Apostles were still living and has only gotten worse. At this time the promotion of the false has become an avalanche.

In the last days here we have reached the point where there is now an entire false church system operating along side the real. The best way to tell the difference is what does the body in question teach about Mammon. In order to understand the difference between the kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Satan you really do need to understand the significance of mammon and its levers of operation.

Then the next marker for the end days is wars, think the first two world wars, what is significant here is that they were fought on a global scale. This is very significant and is what separates these wars from the wars of the past. In the past it was basically one tribal group looting the other. But here it was all done with a global view and rule of law even though the laws were in conflict. It placed in the minds of men the idea of a global government so as to prevent these wars. A concept that was not really plausible before.

The industrial age has enabled mankind to slaughter itself on an industrial scale and the use of money provided under Usury is the chains that binds all nations in a common net. The concept of a single world government along with the striving for world domination is what points to the end of the age wars. Jesus spoke in terms of global events, not regional, which was not possible before.

Along with the wars would also come natural disasters. The size and frequency of earthquakes has definitely increased. So has pestilence and famine. With global travel common now the pestilence is spread globally very quickly. We are also running into diseases never seen before like Ebola and AIDS. Bio weapons coming out the labs is also new to nature but are produced for these last days.

However we are told that this is just the beginning of sorrows. Indicating that we have this start then there is a period of time to pass before the rest comes crashing down on us.

The Main Event Begins.

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Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

 

I am writing this in December 2018. You can see the hatred of Christians growing world wide, It is organized and very violent, In fact there is no shortage of the saints getting their heads lopped off around the globe. Satanism is now open and on the rise. Christmas has become a yearly battle fought both in the courts and on social media, an entire generation has been indoctrinated to be anti Christian through the education system. Who would have thought that a season for peace on earth and good will towards men would be so hated.

This is so obviously spiritually driven that there is no denying that the kingdom of Satan is behind it. Which would indicate that the event in the verses below must have occurred; The woman that brought forth the man child is the nation of Israel, This nation is currently being blamed for all the troubles in the world right now. The man child is Jesus who founded the church so by extension Satan will be going after the saints for persecution as well.
 

 

 I have done an Exegesis on Matt. 24, but I will just offer up a few snippets as per the four sections I see.

1.) Rome Destroys the Temple/sacks the city. Jesus mentioned this first, then his disciples wanted to know when.

Matthew 24 King James Version (KJV)
24 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Step by step here, Jesus prophecies about the Temple's destruction and the disciples want to know when this will happen AND when he will come again AND when the world will end as we know it. So I think Jesus gives them EVERY ANSWER to EVERY QUESTION in partitioned responses. Firstly about the Temple:

Jesus says hey, do not let anyone deceive you, there are going to be false christs, I think this fulfills John 5:43, the Pharisees, Jews understood Rome was the Fourth Beast, they did not understand the Little Horn would come 2000 some odd years later, thus when they saw Rome becoming more aggressive, they put forth Messiahs desperately, naturally since they thought Rome was the Fourth Beast (and they were correct, it was the Fourth Beast). The Jews were looking for a Conquering Political figure, not a Lamb who was a suffering servant. So I think they tried to force someone to the fore, this is what Jesus is warning the disciples about, because he knows if the disciples journey back to Jerusalem to fight for their country/city/people that they will more than likely be killed, hurting the commission Jesus gave them, to spread the Gospel. Jesus doesn't want them to mistake this 70 AD event for the Zechariah 14 event where Jesus will indeed show up in Jerusalem to save the Jewish peoples, so he tells them in verse 6 that when they hear of these things not to worry, because the END WILL BE BY AND BY..............or as per Matthew, the End is not yet. So Jesus basically tells the disciples, hey guys, the Temple will be destroyed, you will hear about this from afar, wars and rumours of wars, but do not under any circumstances come back looking for me as per my Second Coming because my second coming will be later on, you will die first (he basically says that in verse 9). So verses 1-6 is all about the 70 AD event. 

2.) Church Age (would naturally cover 70 AD but of course it's MOSTLY after 70 AD. And I think Jesus meant it that way.)

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

The reason Jesus speaks about Rumours of Wars in verse 6 and then about Kingdoms arising against Kingdoms in verse 7 is he TRANSITIONS to the 2000 some odd year Church Age. Remember, he says at the end of verse 6, THE END IS NOT YET or is by and by. So the Kingdom vs. Kingdom, Nation vs. Nation, Pestilences, Famines and Earthquakes in DIFFERENT PLACES (not Jerusalem per se) are all a part of the SORROWS, better known as the Birth Pangs, as these things get more frequent the end time events will get closer and closer. So the Nation vs. Nation, Kingdom vs. Kingdom means wars will become more frequent, as will the pestilence, famines and earthquakes until the end times are BIRTHED. That is what Jesus is trying to convey here.

Jesus then seems to say but until that time arrives (verse 15) here is a few more things that will happen in the Church Age Period. In verse 9 he tells the disciples that basically all of them will be killed, he adds that the world will hate them. Then Jesus mentions false prophets again, evry mention IMHO, is about a different time period, the false preachers will lead many astray, we see this every day from David Koresh to Jim Jones etc. etc. etc. We might add in the Rabbis who led the Jews away from Christ after Christs death. Jesus then tells them that because people love sin they will wax cold, I think that is RIGHT NOW !! Abortion is cold !! How could a mother do that ? No conscious at all !! He that ENDURES to the end shall be saved means we must run the full race, it has nothing to do with the End Time Events and enduring the Anti-Christ. That is why the very next verse tells us that once the Gospel has been preached unto all the World, then THE END will come !! Amen. (THE RAPTURE should be next, verses 36-51, but of course Matthew did not given the Rapture understanding.)

3.) The 70th Week or The Tribulation Period. (THREE SECTIONS)

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

{{{ This can only be the End Time Abomination of Desolation, the other verses all around it prove this. Verse 21 cites Dan. 12, the GREATEST TROUBLES EVER, which says in Daniel 12 that the Saints will be raised up and stand in their lot at the end, so it can be nothing but the END TIMES, or else why mention Daniel? By the way, Daniel wrote what the man in linen (Jesus) said, so really Jesus is just quoting himself. Then in verse 22 (BELOW) we see that Jesus says those days will be Shortened, which means he will return to end the Jews tribulation after 1260 days, else no flesh would have been saved, God understood that when he made His original prophecies, He didn't have to change His plans. We also see THE Anti-Christ and False Prophet in verse 24. There is no doubt this is END TIME EVENTS. }}}

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

{{{ In the third mention of false christs, we have the third time period from Jesus. We have the END TIMES mentioned in verse 14 as coming after the Gospel has been preached unto all the world, and we see the AoD (verse 15) is in that 70th week time period. Thus we get the Anti-Christ and False Prophet menton, these are DIFFERENT, they perform MIRACLES !! Jesus said if it were possible (IF meaning its not possible) they would deceive the ELECT....well who is the elect here ? The Jews who have Repented and thus Flee Judea unto Petra, it can't be the Church who is in Heaven, it can't be the 2/3 of the Jews who refused to repent, they are already deceived !! The ELECT are the Jews (1/3) who Repented. Why can't they be deceived ? Because Jesus tells them EXACTLY WHERE HE IS COMING FROM !! The Eastern Skies !! 

Jesus says behold, I have told you before (beforehand I have forewarned you). Do not go unto these false christs or false prophets in the Desert or in the Storeroom (SECRET CHAMBERS) that will not be me. Thus he has warned them, don't go out unto them (from their safezone in Petra) or else they will kill you.....if they were not in Petra they wouldn't need to be DECEIVED, the Anti-Christ/Beast would just kill them. Jesus them tells them where he will be coming from, I will come from the EASTERN SKIES !! Then he tells them another important event he will be at, Armageddon. He tells them the eagles are always where the Carcass is at. By reading Rev. 19, the Fowls at the Marriage Supper, we are to understand this is what Jesus means here about the eagles being where the Carcass is at. The Marriage Supper is Armageddon, we eat the Kings flesh and the Captains flesh METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING. So this is another way of Jesus saying when I return, I will be Conquering the evil of this world, not co-mingling with them.}}}


29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

{{{ The Tribulation of those days start with the First Seal and lasts to the 7th Vial, so IMMEDIATELY AFTER those days, which Joel told us about, Jesus will return, these events have Joel's prophecy in them but is about all the Seals, Trumpets and Vials, then when the 7th Vial is poured out Jesus will return in the clouds (Eastern Skies). The Angels gather the Elect (Church/Bride) to return with Jesus from the Four Winds (all parts or every directions) of Heaven, just as Rev. ch. 19 tells us. }}}

Rapture of the Church
4.) Verses 36-51 is the Rapture, Mathew was not given the Rapture understanding, thus he placed it here at the end of the passage, unless this was meant to go with the Matthew 25 passage about the 10 virgins with 5 being locked out, either way, this is the Pre tribulation Rapture IMHO.

 

Getting long.......look at the rest later.

Edited by Revelation Man

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2 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Brilliant! until the last part. Yes, the rapture comes before God's wrath is poured out. But God's wrath is NOT the tribulation of the Church; the tribulation of the Church is brought about by Satan's wrath:

Rev. 12:12 “Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

God tells those of his people that they must endure the tribulation:

Rev. 6:9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.

Luke 21:36 “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass [that is, the trials of the trib.], and to stand before the Son of Man.”

The 5th seal is the martyrs of the church age. Stephen was without a doubt one of them. They had no idea how long it would be before judgment would come. Anyone martyred during the 70th week would know judgment had already come.

Did you not read John (somewhere around 95 AD) when He wrote:

"I john in THE tribulation." It was tribulation in John's day. Most translations ignore the "THE" but it is there in all the Greek manuscripts. In other words, God calls the church age "the tribulation." However, this has nothing at all to do with the 70th week of Daniel which is also called "the tribulation." It is going to last for 7 years. The last half will include days of GREAT tribulation.

God's wrath is NOT the tribulation of the Church; the tribulation of the Church is brought about by Satan's wrath:  This is really a true statement, but not the way you meant it. People imagine they can separate God's wrath from Satan's wrath, but any good student of Revelation knows that God's wrath comes while Satan's wrath comes - simultaneously! When the murdering of the saints gets really going, Satan's wrath at its peak, God begins pouring out the vials of His wrath to shorten those days of GT. Don't take my word for it. God's wrath begins at the 6th seal, and does not end until after Jesus comes as seen in Rev. 19. Satan's wrath comes when he is cast down at the midpoint of the week.  It is easy to see then that Satan's wrath and God's wrath in the vials happen at the same time.  Next, the church is not going to be here when Satan's wrath is poured out. The rapture will take out the church before the week, and before the 6th seal when God's wrath begins.  Paul tells us God is not setting any appointments with us for ANY time after the 6th seal. In other words, the rapture will come before the 6th seal.  However, all that said, the "normal" tribulation throughout the church age comes from Satan's hatred of God and His people.

For all those matyrs of the church age: it WAS "tribulation" for them, probably great tribulation: anyone martyred cannot be killed again! For them tribulation was great: it could not get greater. But that is still not the days of GT Jesus spoke of that will begin at the abomination event.

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You got it Traveler.  100%

Everyone else missed it, but you got it nailed.  Is that what you are looking for?

Except what if you are not?  What if you missed it?  

 

What if the Christ showed up here-- right here, right now and told you (and everyone else) that they missed the boat, the timeline, the signs, and the very arrival?

 

Well-- predictably the church would shout-- Heretic!  False!  Antichrist!  -- and leave no room for having missed it all..... which is exactly what happened btw, when He arrived in a manger.

 

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