Robert William Posted January 9, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 612 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2019 Yes Born from Above Christians are worthy, but ONLY because of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ the Messiah who Atoned for the Predestined Elect, ALL humans including Christians deserve to be right now thrown into the eternal lake of fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted January 9, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted January 9, 2019 For God So Loved 15that everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.…John 3:15-17 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Mclees Posted January 21, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,915 Content Per Day: 0.80 Reputation: 910 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/9/2019 at 11:24 AM, Robert William said: Yes Born from Above Christians are worthy, but ONLY because of the crucifixion of Jesus Christ the Messiah who Atoned for the Predestined Elect, ALL humans including Christians deserve to be right now thrown into the eternal lake of fire. Are you worthy? How do you know? When did He tell you that you were predestined. Does this mean that those who came to Christ because they believed on the same crucifixion as you should have stayed home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert William Posted January 21, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 612 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, Mike Mclees said: Are you worthy? How do you know? When did He tell you that you were predestined. Does this mean that those who came to Christ because they believed on the same crucifixion as you should have stayed home. Jesus will separate the tares from the wheat, in other the Lord Lord types will be thrown into the eternal lake of fire, my brief testimony and evidence of being born from above is that in 1980 I was made a new creature or was born from above, and my so called friends including my family thought I was mad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert William Posted January 21, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 612 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike Mclees said: Are you worthy? How do you know? When did He tell you that you were predestined. Does this mean that those who came to Christ because they believed on the same crucifixion as you should have stayed home. Mike, free will is a Satanic deceptive invention for the purpose of permanently or allowing the majority to reprobate. Greeting Rom 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, Rom 1:2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Rom 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; Rom 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: Rom 1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: Rom 1:6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ: Rom 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. Longing to Go to Rome Rom 1:8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world. Rom 1:9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers; Rom 1:10 Making request, if by any means now at length I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you. Rom 1:11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established; Rom 1:12 That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me. Rom 1:13 Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles. Rom 1:14 I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise. Rom 1:15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also. The Righteous Shall Live by Faith Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith. God's Wrath on Unrighteousness Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. On 1/17/2019 at 7:24 PM, Michael37 said: I have never accepted Pelagian heresy so please don't judge me amongst them, Robert. Yes, Peter's letters are addressed successively to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ, and to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ, but in light of his recognition of their salvation and faith your interpretation of chapter 3:9 in his second letter doesn't make sense if "not wishing that any should perish but that all should reach repentance", only applies to them. That would be in contradiction to his words of greeting. Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert William Posted January 21, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 612 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 On 1/9/2019 at 1:08 PM, angels4u said: For God So Loved 15that everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.…John 3:15-17 angels4u, that can't mean ALL humans since scripture teaches that the natural man (not born from above) considers the gospel to be foolishness, ask yourself, if scripture teaches that the natural man considers the gospel to be foolishness. further study. 1 Corinthians 2;15. https://carm.org/total-depravity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 21, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.34 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, Cletus said: Christians are worthy of what? Worthy is The Lamb. Exactly Cletus . exactly . True Christians who love the LORD , KNOW HE IS THE ONE WHO IS WORTHY . And we rejoice in HIM . never looking to , or boasting in us . We , well were were worthy of nothing but death and the second death . BUT HE ALONE IS WORTHY OF ALL PRAISE . And in HIM we simply are counted worthy . Cletus its a well spring of joy to see when one just points to the LORD and not man . YOU JUST STAND UP and REJOICE IN THE LORD my brother . Just praise the LORD . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted January 21, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.34 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted January 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, Cletus said: Christians are worthy of what? Worthy is The Lamb. Rejoicing that they were counted , COUNTED WORTHY to SUFFER SHAME FOR HIS NAME . Guess folks don't like that part . OH BUT LET US REJOICE IN THE LORD no matter what comes against us . For its the righteous judgment of GOD that we SUFFER for the kingdom . THE RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENT OF GOD that we be counted worthy to SUFFER . And I bet you KNOW this Cletus . Well, what you said the other day rings true . TIME is running out and soon even in the west the church is gonna be hammered . OH but I say REJOICE , REJOICE , REJIOCE when we are persecuted . I Say LEAP FOR JOY in that day . BUT did I say this first . NOPE , JESUS DID . TIME TO LEARN THE TRUE JESUS of the bible . Folks its time to feast on every saying of HIS and every thing those true apostels also wrote for our own edification and growth . Cletus , you leap up and praise the LORD > 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert William Posted January 21, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 612 Content Per Day: 0.25 Reputation: 93 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, Cletus said: Christians are worthy of what? Worthy is The Lamb. Cletus, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted January 21, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2019 I am “ made worthy” by my faith in the Blood of Jesus .NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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