alaric_w Posted January 10, 2019 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 81 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 106 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/10/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2019 The superficial answer is “Breaking of God’s law.” The deeper answer is “Sinning is the state or condition of all man.” For example, a fish swims and a sinner sins. Everyone is born into a condition called sin (Except for Jesus who is without sin). No one can escape this condition by obeying the law or doing righteous works. The bible compare the righteousness of a sinner to a filthy rag. Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. The law was given to make everyone aware that he/she is a sinner. Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. The law cannot save anyone. But the law is necessary. Because without it, everyone will not know what is sin. Resulting in not having the need for a saviour (Jesus). 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bible_Gazer Posted January 10, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 450 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 152 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/05/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2019 So are all those who died under the law of Moses dead and not saved ? About Jesus Jesus was of the seed of Abraham and David, so he was human, in the likeness of sinful flesh. Some say he was tempted in all points as we are, so he must had a sin nature to be tempted. If the sin nature doctrine is true - Jesus was a spotted lamb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not me Posted January 10, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 510 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 3,178 Content Per Day: 1.46 Reputation: 3,344 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/06/2018 Status: Online Share Posted January 10, 2019 5 hours ago, alaric_w said: The superficial answer is “Breaking of God’s law.” The deeper answer is “Sinning is the state or condition of all man.” For example, a fish swims and a sinner sins. Everyone is born into a condition called sin (Except for Jesus who is without sin). No one can escape this condition by obeying the law or doing righteous works. The bible compare the righteousness of a sinner to a filthy rag. Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. The law was given to make everyone aware that he/she is a sinner. Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. The law cannot save anyone. But the law is necessary. Because without it, everyone will not know what is sin. Resulting in not having the need for a saviour (Jesus). So true, the law was given that sin might be made manifest. So as you brought forth, mankind might see their need of a Savior. Would to God that all mankind would see their need. Blessings, Much love in Christ, Not me 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted January 10, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 940 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,416 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 8,958 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted January 10, 2019 On 1/10/2019 at 3:57 AM, alaric_w said: The law cannot save anyone. But the law is necessary. Because without it, everyone will not know what is sin. Resulting in not having the need for a saviour (Jesus Are you sure your final paragraph is stating what it is that you want to say? Seems to me sin and knowledge of sin predates the Law of Moses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted January 10, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 940 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,416 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 8,958 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Peace with God Through Faith Romans 5 ESV Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us. For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die— but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God. For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life. More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned— for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come. But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous. Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more, so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaric_w Posted January 11, 2019 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 81 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 106 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/10/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 Well it is 2 different thing between existence of sin and knowing you are a sinner. Take for example, someone born beautiful or ugly does not know that until he or she looks into a mirror. In the same way, the law of God is like a mirror that shows us that we are sinners. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) To sin is to do that which you know grieves God. Edited January 11, 2019 by Melinda12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandalfTheWise Posted January 12, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 24 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,459 Content Per Day: 0.61 Reputation: 2,377 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/23/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2019 Our inability to completely live as God intended us to live is evidenced by particular acts of sin and trespasses. This is something far deeper than trespassing particular rules and speaks to the fall of humanity. Sin as a whole is related to our inability to live the perfect physically, emotionally, socially, and spiritually healthy life God had originally planned for humanity. It is our falling short of God's intention and our inability to even reach it through our own efforts. I think Christians often lose sight that our salvation is not just forgiveness of individual trespasses but also becoming a new creation in Christ which directly addresses our sin-nature and the fall of humanity. Forgiveness deals with God overlooking particular trespasses we've committed. Being a new creation in Christ with a new nature directly deals with our inherent sin nature. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted January 12, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,792 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2019 What does it mean to sin? SIN...Biblical archery term. To miss the mark. The target. The standard. The law. The will of God.I can't do it, hit the mark that is. God says so. Unless I call God a liar. But. God says, I am dead to sin. I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. A new creation. I can do all things, in Christ! Not I, but Christ. In me. The mind of Christ. Abide. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bible_Gazer Posted January 12, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 450 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 152 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/05/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 John 2:3-5 (KJV) 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 1 John 3:4 (KJV) 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1 John 3:8 (KJV) 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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