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So are all those who died under the law of Moses dead and not saved ?

 

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Jesus was of the seed of Abraham and David, so he was human, in the likeness of  sinful flesh.

Some say he was tempted in all points as we are, so he must had a sin nature to be tempted.

If the sin nature doctrine is true - Jesus was a spotted lamb.

 

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On 1/10/2019 at 3:57 AM, alaric_w said:

The law cannot save anyone. But the law is necessary. Because without it, everyone will not know what is sin. Resulting in not having the need for a saviour (Jesus

Are you sure your final paragraph is stating what it is that you want to say?

Seems to me sin and knowledge of sin predates the Law of Moses.

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Peace with God Through Faith Romans 5 ESV

 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.  Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.  Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance,  and endurance produces character, and character produces hope,  and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us.

 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.  For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die—  but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.  Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.  For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, now that we are reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.  More than that, we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.

 

 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned—  for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.

 But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.  And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. For if, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.

Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.  For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous.  Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,  so that, as sin reigned in death, grace also might reign through righteousness leading to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

 

 

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Well it is 2 different thing between existence of sin and knowing you are a sinner. 

Take for example, someone born beautiful or ugly does not know that until he or she looks into a mirror. In the same way, the law of God is like a mirror that shows us that we are sinners.

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To sin is to do that which you know grieves God. 

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Our inability to completely live as God intended us to live is evidenced by particular acts of sin and trespasses.  This is something far deeper than trespassing particular rules and speaks to the fall of humanity.   Sin as a whole is related to our inability to live the perfect physically, emotionally, socially, and spiritually healthy life God had originally planned for humanity.  It is our falling short of God's intention and our inability to even reach it through our own efforts.

I think Christians often lose sight that our salvation is not just forgiveness of individual trespasses but also becoming a new creation in Christ which directly addresses our sin-nature and the fall of humanity.   Forgiveness deals with God overlooking particular trespasses we've committed.  Being a new creation in Christ with a new nature directly deals with our inherent sin nature.

 

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Oh the sacrifice of Jesus, who died on the cross...for us.  Before the crucifixion of Jesus, a veil separated the presence of God from men.  When Jesus died at the cross, that very instant, that veil was torn in two, and now we can boldly approach God, our Father.  When God sees those of us who have been born from above, He sees the precious blood of Jesus. 

John 3:16 tells us...

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes on Him should not perish but have everlasting life.  Amen!

 

Selah:emot-heartbeat:

 

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What does it mean to sin?

SIN...Biblical archery term.
To miss the mark. The target. The standard. The law. The will of God.
I can't do it, hit the mark that is. God says so. Unless I call God a liar.
But.
God says, I am dead to sin. I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. A new creation.
I can do all things, in Christ!  Not I, but Christ. In me.
The mind of Christ.
Abide.

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