faither 2 Posted January 12, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 129 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 53 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2019 I'm new to the group and glad to be here. I thought I would propose a question to you all to get a sense of what your understanding of Faith is, and how it's applied. I'm sure we all agree, " salvation is by Grace, through Faith ." But what is your specific understanding of how Faith is applied that results in recieving the Spirit of Christ? Thanks . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 12, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 40,790 Content Per Day: 7.95 Reputation: 21,262 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Faith is the given capacity to exchange the reliance upon 1st born realities toward the promises given by God in His Word... To actually exchange priority to written Scriptures so that you live and act upon that and not upon the overwhelming influences we have been born into! We are made able by faith to produce activity that points to God and what He has said and this is magnified by the overwhelming things that come against us even in the doing... Hebrews chapter 11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faither 2 Posted January 12, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 129 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 53 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/31/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 41 minutes ago, enoob57 said: Faith is the given capacity to exchange the reliance upon 1st born realities toward the promises given by God in His Word... To actually exchange priority to written Scriptures so that you live and act upon that and not upon the overwhelming influences we have been born into! We are made able by faith to produce activity that points to God and what He has said and magnified by the overwhelming things that come against us even in the doing... Hebrews chapter 11 Thanks enoob. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 12, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 40,790 Content Per Day: 7.95 Reputation: 21,262 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 12, 2019 God's speed in your growth of faith dear brother!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faither 2 Posted January 12, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 129 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 53 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/31/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, enoob57 said: Faith is the given capacity to exchange the reliance upon 1st born realities toward the promises given by God in His Word... To actually exchange priority to written Scriptures so that you live and act upon that and not upon the overwhelming influences we have been born into! We are made able by faith to produce activity that points to God and what He has said and magnified by the overwhelming things that come against us even in the doing... Hebrews chapter 11 Do you think people today have a good understanding of what NT saving Faith is? Edited January 12, 2019 by faither 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 12, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 40,790 Content Per Day: 7.95 Reputation: 21,262 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, faither 2 said: Do you think people today have a good understanding of what NT saving Faith is? Not many! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faither 2 Posted January 12, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 129 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 53 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/31/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, enoob57 said: Not many! Are you familiar with the Greek words for Faith Pistis, and the corresponding verb pisteuo ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behold Posted January 12, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 7 Topic Count: 87 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 3,795 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 3 Joined: 07/30/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, faither 2 said: I'm new to the group and glad to be here. I thought I would propose a question to you all to get a sense of what your understanding of Faith is, and how it's applied. I'm sure we all agree, " salvation is by Grace, through Faith ." But what is your specific understanding of how Faith is applied that results in recieving the Spirit of Christ? Thanks . In the context of Christianity, when you are trying to define "faith", its a unique situation because we are required by God to believe in what we can't see or touch. Our faith, is built on those who came before us and said it's true, and were willing to die for this holy truth. The bible tells us to believe in the unseen, based on the "proof" of evidence that we are told to evaluate, like nature, or in general, "all of creation". So, as this is the case, "Christian faith" is basically 2 things......Its hope and trust. What we do know by evidence that is seen, is that everything that is here, started not of itself. You can't have creation, of any kind or sort, without a creator. Books don't write themselves. Paintings don't paint themselves. And Planets and Stars and the Galaxy didn't create themselves.. Everything that exists, has to have a creator. Everything that exists, was originally created, somehow, and as you go back in time and consider the creation of the universe, then this is where it becomes easier to Believe in God, as you consider it. And the reason is....... 2 things......... one is, there has to be a start, an original point where it all began, and two, is that what started originally, could not have possibly created ITSELF from NOTHING. It takes a CREATOR to create from nothing, all that began to exist. "The religion of Science", does not like this reality....the reality of "first cause"...so what they do, is smokescreen and veil the truth of "original creation", with "big bang theory" and "the theory of evolution", and others. And what this is, is the religion of Science pretending it ALL originally began, by misrepresenting (lying) about what was already HERE by calling it "the beginning".......as they can't deal with starting from the idea of how it all got here. As that would be the Truth. See, the " big bang theory" and "the theory of evolution", is the way science tries to falsely create the idea of the beginning, by starting their theories AFTER it was all here, pretending (lying) that this is the "beginning". See, you can't have a "big bang" unless you have something already HERE to "bang".......and you can't evolve unless you have something that is already here, to evolve. Science likes to start in the middle, because they can't deal with the beginning. The BEGINNING Is , "where did it come from"....but science pretends the beginning is "look how it big banged", which of course is not the beginning. But we we KNOW how it began.. "And God SAID"........."let there BE"... Edited January 12, 2019 by Behold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, faither 2 said: Are you familiar with the Greek words for Faith Pistis, and the corresponding verb pisteuo ? From Vine's ... Vine's Expository Dictionary "The main elements in "faith" in its relation to the invisible God, as distinct from "faith" in man, are especially brought out in the use of this noun and the corresponding verb, pisteuo; they are (1) a firm conviction, producing a full acknowledgement of God's revelation or truth, e.g., 2 Thess. 2:11,12; (2) a personal surrender to Him, John 1:12; (3) a conduct inspired by such surrender, 2 Cor. 5:7. Prominence is given to one or other of these elements according to the context. All this stands in contrast to belief in its purely natural exercise, which consists of an opinion held in good "faith" without necessary reference to its proof. The object of Abraham's "faith" was not God's promise (that was the occasion of its exercise); his "faith" rested on God Himself, Rom. 4:17,20,21." Belief Commit Intrust Trust Faith (above definition for pisteuo contained in paragraph 3 under pistis) Edited January 12, 2019 by Saved.One.by.Grace 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 12, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 40,790 Content Per Day: 7.95 Reputation: 21,262 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 12, 2019 53 minutes ago, faither 2 said: Are you familiar with the Greek words for Faith Pistis, and the corresponding verb pisteuo ? yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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