n2thelight Posted January 22, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2019 Genesis 25:23 "And the Lord said unto her, "Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger." My question,where are they today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adstar Posted January 22, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,399 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,307 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2019 Easu is the originator of the Edomites.. Jacob was the originator of the 12 tribes of Israel.. So the Jews are decendants of Jacob.. Note the prophecy never said that both nations would last forever.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted January 22, 2019 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,896 Content Per Day: 3.26 Reputation: 4,826 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, n2thelight said: Genesis 25:23 "And the Lord said unto her, "Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger." My question,where are they today? Esau's line did indeed became the Edomites who were the inhabitants of Idumea. Wkpd has this to say: Antipater the Idumaean, the progenitor of the Herodian Dynasty along with Judean progenitors, that ruled Judea after the Roman conquest, was of mixed Edomite/Judean origin. Under Herod the Great, the Idumaea province was ruled for him by a series of governors, among whom were his brother Joseph ben Antipater, and his brother-in-law Costobarus. According to Josephus, during the siege of Jerusalem in 70 CE by Titus, 20,000 Idumaeans, under the leadership of John, Simeon, Phinehas, and Jacob, helped the Zealots fight for independence from Rome, who were besieged in the Temple.[53] After the Jewish Wars, the Idumaean people are no longer mentioned in history, though the geographical region of "Idumea" is still referred to at the time of Jerome.[30] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted January 23, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 Can anyone see Russia as that nation of Esau? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted January 24, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,103 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,543 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/21/2019 at 10:20 PM, n2thelight said: My question,where are they today? Edomites are in Saudi Arabia and Jordan, nationally; but ethnically, they are all over. Just as the descendants of Jacob are all over, but primarily in Israel and America. On 1/23/2019 at 7:50 AM, n2thelight said: Can anyone see Russia as that nation of Esau? No. Russians are from the lineage of Japheth, not Shem. Not that there aren't Edomites/sons of Esau in Russia also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted January 25, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) On 1/24/2019 at 4:51 PM, WilliamL said: Edomites are in Saudi Arabia and Jordan, nationally; but ethnically, they are all over. Just as the descendants of Jacob are all over, but primarily in Israel and America. No. Russians are from the lineage of Japheth, not Shem. Not that there aren't Edomites/sons of Esau in Russia also. Check out the below and let me know what you think. As I do see Russia as Esau Edited February 1, 2019 by George Removed link for connection to Shepherds chapel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted January 31, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,103 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,543 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 5:17 AM, n2thelight said: Check out the below and let me know what you think. Not much. Lots of claims without any solid biblical or historical evidence that shows Russians are descended from Esau. Russians are Slavs, Edomites are Shemites. Not even the same race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted February 1, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 13 hours ago, WilliamL said: Not much. Lots of claims without any solid biblical or historical evidence that shows Russians are descended from Esau. Russians are Slavs, Edomites are Shemites. Not even the same race. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted February 1, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,795 Content Per Day: 6.22 Reputation: 11,242 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 3:17 AM, n2thelight said: Check out the below and let me know what you think As I do see Russia as Esau Your link (which I edited out of this post) is to a site that promotes the studies of shepherds chapel, a very bad group with unsound doctrine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2thelight Posted February 1, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 2 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,139 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 796 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/20/2015 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, ayin jade said: Your link (which I edited out of this post) is to a site that promotes the studies of shepherds chapel, a very bad group with unsound doctrine. All good,thanks for the response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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