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5 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said:

Who is using Grace to willfully disobey God?  That is the common argument by those that don't understand grace and their sinful nature!

You say you believe in Grace, do you willfully disobey?

Answer me this question, then I will answer yours:

If Jesus told us that we cannot serve two masters, God and money, and someone works for money, then can they also serve God. Answer me.

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3 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

This fellow is not seeing this clearly at all .    I left my old job , but  I stated my own work with my own two hands .   

It is not a sin to work , and yes I get paid by those I work .    Let him that steal , steal no more , but rather labour working with his own hands that he might not lack

and so he can Give to those without .     JESUS never commanded folks to go and work no more .  He said go and sin no more .

And the apostels ,  yeah they left their jobs , to start the work of His ministry .   Some eat of the flock , others work and give aide to those in need or to those who teach .

This fellow is not seeing things clear .    If he left his job and is going town to town with the gospel , then amen , and GOD will provide .

But to tell folks they cant work clean jobs ,  man that needs to get stopped .   However , in the days ahead wont any of us be working anyway .

We going to be cast out , and that mark ITS at the door .    SO work , but don't fear to lose anything .   Just work unto the LORD and give to any who lacks .

 

Where did I say that Jesus commanded folks to go and work no more? Read carefully, friend.

I am saying that we shouldn't work for money. That has, and is, the point I am making. Does that mean we just sit around and do nothing? God forbid. What we need to do after we obey Jesus' command and stop working for money, is to continue obeying Jesus' command and start working for God. Simple, isn't it?

Jesus never taught for his disciples to become donors to those sent out into the mission; rather he taught that what we should do is pray that God will send more labourers into his harvest (Luke 10:2). Sadly everybody wants to sign up as a 'financial supporter', but nobody wants to follow Jesus by taking up their cross and following Him.

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4 minutes ago, UnprofitableServantJames said:

I am sincerely sorry to hear that God sent you there, for you to then turn away. Why do I say this? God was wanting you to work indeed, but it wasn't for money, rather he wanted you to work for Him.

James said "Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith from my works." man, you didn't even have the courtesy to read what I wrote, I'm wasting my time...

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5 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said:

James said "Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith from my works." man, you didn't even have the courtesy to read what I wrote, I'm wasting my time...

I am very confused at your reaction to what I shared above, and why you quoted this verse from James? You mentioned it in your post, and I do admit I didn't finish reading it, I apologize for doing that.

Now that I have read what you said in the bottom, I am more convinced that what you are sharing isn't from God, rather, as you say, from man.

If you believe that what God wants for me, and any other Christian, is to work for money, then I can't accept that. Not because I want to be stubborn and hold onto my belief, rather this is the clear doctrine taught by Jesus.

You mentioned that if you had to learn something from man, then it isn't from God. While there is truth to that, that also isn't as black and white as you make it out to be. Have you honestly never learned something from the same pastor that shared this thought to you? God uses people to reveal his words to us, because we have a tendency to close our ears to further revelation.

I pray you can consider that it is you who is basing what you believe to be God's will on what man said, not me.

Also, when I hear the term Word of God, I think of Jesus. It sounds like you believe that the Word of God is the Bible, but that isn't scriptural.

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11 hours ago, UnprofitableServantJames said:

Where did I say that Jesus commanded folks to go and work no more? Read carefully, friend.

I am saying that we shouldn't work for money. That has, and is, the point I am making. Does that mean we just sit around and do nothing? God forbid. What we need to do after we obey Jesus' command and stop working for money, is to continue obeying Jesus' command and start working for God. Simple, isn't it?

Jesus never taught for his disciples to become donors to those sent out into the mission; rather he taught that what we should do is pray that God will send more labourers into his harvest (Luke 10:2). Sadly everybody wants to sign up as a 'financial supporter', but nobody wants to follow Jesus by taking up their cross and following Him.

You treed the wrong coon my friend .    ITs the LOVE of money that is the root of all evil .   The love of it .   I have never prayed for money .  Not once .

 I don't worry over it .  If we lose all its only gain ,   if riches do increase set not your heart on them , GIVE GIVE GIVE to those who lack and DO NOT STORE UP .

But if money itself was evil ,  WHY did JESUS not tell that to the Pharisee who tempted him .  HE said give unto ceasar that which is HIS .  HE did not say

Money , tribute is evil .   ITS the love of it .    WE should learn godliness with CONTENTMENT .    Be content , not seeking to have more , just be content .

IF we lose it all then we lose it all,  and if it increases its only meant to share with others . 

You got this fixation in your head that we cant work and get paid .    The jews themselves sold livestock .   They worked and earned money , IF NOT how were they able

to pay Taxes to the roman govt .  You getting this all wrong .  YES I agree a man can be called out and simply preach the gospel and live of that .  And what a blessing

while others can still work and Let the light shine and speak Christ to all .

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11 hours ago, JustPassingThru said:

James said "Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith from my works." man, you didn't even have the courtesy to read what I wrote, I'm wasting my time...

You know I love you .  But you just gave james the upper hand .  THIS is not talking about working for money at all .  It means having good works . 

Now he feels justified .     we cant take scripture out of text .  This is simply meaning to do good works .     You know why this happens to so many .

They  forget what paul once said ,   if after the first or second admonition one is not hearing ,  Ya gotta move on .  Alll it does is lead to strife and then we cant see clear .

Its why you don't see my continue too much after one just keeps rejecting .  ONLY GOD can give the increase .    

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13 hours ago, SelahSong said:

Ephesians 2:10 King James Version (KJV)

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

....Saved by grace by the blood (and nothing but the blood) of Jesus...Eph. 2:8-9, Col. 1:20

....and created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God has ordained that we should walk in 

    them...Eph. 2:10

....always abounding in the work of the Lord...1 Cor. 15:58

....What time is it, Frienduff? :soapbox:

....Selah:emot-heartbeat:

 

 

ITS TIME TO PRAISE THE LORD .   Hands up , sister , hands up and praise the Lord .

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1 hour ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

You know I love you .  But you just gave james the upper hand .  THIS is not talking about working for money at all .  It means having good works . 

Now he feels justified .     we cant take scripture out of text .  This is simply meaning to do good works .     You know why this happens to so many .

They  forget what paul once said ,   if after the first or second admonition one is not hearing ,  Ya gotta move on .  Alll it does is lead to strife and then we cant see clear .

Its why you don't see my continue too much after one just keeps rejecting .  ONLY GOD can give the increase .  

Thanks Bro, I love you too and I've added you to my prayer list, I was hoping something I had written would be a hook to open his eyes, ...I don't have the time to argue with people so as to give them time to try and make their point. 

If he has the upper hand it's only on a forum in cyber space, ...we know it's our Jesus that rules and reigns from Heaven!

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12 hours ago, UnprofitableServantJames said:

Now that I have read what you said in the bottom, I am more convinced that what you are sharing isn't from God, rather, as you say, from man.

Ya' know James, I have no problem with, content and at total peace with, ...letting Jesus show every one reading this who will receive their rewards at His Judgement Seat, 

So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.  Rom 14:12

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.  2 Cor 5:10

Lord bless

 

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