The abomination that causes desolation

[simplejeff]

4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

You need to consider using common sense some time.

Please , what is your definition of "common sense" ?

[frienduff thaylorde]

10 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Both result in death.    In the case of the one world church,  the death to billions of souls - much worse than the deaths in hiroshima.

Well jeff, you beat me to it .   SAME thought popped in my head .   

And what worse the death of the body , or the death of the soul .     Exactly .  

Exactly .

 

[Michael37]

12 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Please , what is your definition of "common sense" ?

Common sense equates to majority rule in some circumstances, when it is often contrary to "the wisdom from above". 

Just now, frienduff thaylorde said:

Well jeff, you beat me to it .   SAME thought popped in my head .   

And what worse the death of the body , or the death of the soul .     Exactly .  

Exactly .

How about this for a happy ending??? 

Rev 19:19-21
(19)  And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.
(20)  Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.
(21)  And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.
 

[simplejeff]

So 'majority' rule ,  AND ,  majority 'killed with the sword which proceeds from the mouth of Him '......... yes, that's true,

and that is the worldly common sense (they have no spiritual truth or spiritual good sense, according to Yahweh's Word).

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i.e. God's Word says man's knowledge and man's wisdom  (all mankind has to offer)

LEADS AWAY FROM CHRIST.    And prevents little ones from finding Yahweh's Kingdom (Heaven) or Truth.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

6 hours ago, Michael37 said:

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What a lot of ways there are to oppose God, and what a lot of authoritarians have been exalted and exalted themselves to divine status, so another Caesar won't be anything new. But what will be different about this one called "the man of sin" and "the son of perdition" and "that Wicked"?  Source: Another Caesar (see below).

 

Maybe you didnt understand my post.

When,the abomination of desolation is placed,jesus said it would be a time of great tribulation ,the worst the world has ever seen,of ever shall be.

https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-21.htm

This is not the act of a man,claiming to be the God.This is a war often called Armeggedon.

Nuclear weapons will be used at this time.

[Last Daze]

14 hours ago, suzan344 said:

What do you mean regarding the woman of Rev. 12 and her offspring have desolation brought against them?  I see in Rev. 12 that she is chased by a flood and is hidden away from satan-dragon.  Her children, are chased by the dragon then.

"The Woman Persecuted , KJV, Rev. 12: 15-17
…15  Then from the mouth of the serpent spewed water like a river to overtake the woman and sweep her away in the torrent. 

16  But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth to swallow up the river that had poured from the dragon’s mouth. 

17 And the dragon was enraged at the woman, and went to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore.…"  end quote

Berean Study Bible "

I see the woman as natural Israel and her offspring as spiritual Israel.

• And when the dragon saw that he was thrown down to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child.  Revelation 12:13

Satan's persecution of natural Israel desolates the nation and causes a remnant to flee to the wilderness to survive.  When he realizes that they are supernaturally protected, he begins his war against the saints.  A great multitude are martyred as a result.

[frienduff thaylorde]

13 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Common sense equates to majority rule in some circumstances, when it is often contrary to "the wisdom from above". 

How about this for a happy ending??? 

Rev 19:19-21
(19)  And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.
(20)  Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.
(21)  And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.
 

That will be the end for all who came not to Christ , for all who followed and believed a lie .

ITS why , by grace I keep warning out against this big end time all inclusive unity gathering that is going on .    THEY headed all right into the Den of the beast who is to rise .

And they thinks its all cute , warm fuzzy and love and peace .   I have never seen a spell like this at work before .   Heck

even the worst of enemies are becoming one , BUT NOT UNDER CHRIST , under INCLUSIVISM , world peace , unity .

Muslims are joining hands with buddists , with more and more christains so called as well , with jews , with wicans  with all .

Micheal, most folks do not recognize it at its earliest stages .   Heck many are not even recognizing it in its more advanced stage .

I aint never seen a delusion that can unite so many ,  make it all seem as love , make it all seem as true unity and fellowship , as peace and safety .

If any goes under this spell and continues in it , they may as well write their name In those verses you sent .  Cause where one gets led too ,   is also where they too will end up .

 

[Michael37]

7 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Maybe you didnt understand my post.

When,the abomination of desolation is placed,jesus said it would be a time of great tribulation ,the worst the world has ever seen,of ever shall be.

https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-21.htm

This is not the act of a man,claiming to be the God.This is a war often called Armeggedon.

Nuclear weapons will be used at this time.

So the "kings of the earth and of the whole world" gather at Armageddon and nuke themselves??? (Rhetorical question)

Rev 16:13-16
(13)  And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
(14)  For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
(15)  "Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame."
(16)  And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon.

Notice the outcome of this confrontation...

Rev 19:19-21
(19)  And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.
(20)  Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.
(21)  And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh.

And notice the outcome of this final confrontation...

Rev 20:7-10
(7)  Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison
(8)  and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea.
(9)  They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.
(10)  The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
 

The spiritual dimension is evident in these climactic encounters. Difficult to write nuclear bombs into the activity...but fiction will find any excuse to confound fact.

[simplejeff]

Some tradition of men has thought up nuclear weapons use to try to explain in man's puny terms 

what Yahweh says will happen when Yeshua Returns ......

 

There's a better way,  this explains a little bit :

excerpt from Blue Letter Bible Site Lesson:

" One of the cultural problems that we are having in western civilization today is that we are adopting secular viewpoints into Christian thinking. We are amalgamating the two viewpoints and thinking that this is the way to reach people. No, it is not and it never has been. God does not want us to talk like them, to do what they do, to think like them, or to go where they go. He wants us to be different and a lot of us are afraid of being different. The message in society today is to be the same with everybody alike. No, Christians are to be different. God wants us different. I like to use the word "weird" or I throw in "wacko." God wants us to be different. Paul even said, "I am a fool for Christ's sake" (1 Corinthians 4:10, paraphrased).

Holiness refers to His people.
Turn back to Leviticus 21. The holiness of God refers to His unique person, to His exalted position, to the specific places where He dwells, and to His special people. It also refers to His designated priests. Boy, you get a glimpse, of holiness when you look at what God said about priests in Leviticus 21. There is no group of people on the face of the earth that have had higher standards than the priests of the Old Testament."

 

[simplejeff]

14 hours ago, Michael37 said:

How about this for a happy ending??? 

This may well be a tangent,  but "cool!" one  :) ........   MIGHTY is YAHWEH !

concerning the end - from a study in Blue Letter Bible -

.... " ......   an earthquake on this planet like the world has never seen or ever measured. The Bible says that every island and mountain is going to be removed out of its place. All of the cities of the nations will fall. The Bible says in the Old Testament, describing this event that it is like God taking the planet in His hands and giving it a shaking. The entire globe will have one massive earthquake. Men's hearts will fail them for fear. There will be worldwide panic and they will know it comes from God because it is unlike anything they have seen before. And all heaven breaks out in praise because, "You alone, Lord, are holy" (Revelation 15:4). That is only one example. The tribulation period, in that holocaust of terror that God will bring on the earth, is going to be the greatest demonstration of the power of God that the world has ever seen. And they will know He is holy in His power. ... .... "