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49 minutes ago, simplejeff said:
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There were pious Jews from every nation under heaven living in Jerusalem.

QUOTE from Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible:

I. The great concourse of people that there was now at Jerusalem, it should seem more than was usual at the feast of pentecost. There were dwelling or abiding at Jerusalem Jews that were devout men, disposed to religion, and that had the fear of God before their eyes (so the word properly signifies), some of them proselytes of righteousness, that were circumcised, and admitted members of the Jewish church, others only proselytes of the gate, that forsook idolatry, and gave up themselves to the worship of the true God, but not to the ceremonial law; some of those that were at Jerusalem now, out of every nation under heaven, whither the Jews were dispersed, or whence proselytes were come. The expression is hyperbolical, denoting that there were some from most of the then known parts of the world; as much as ever Tyre was, or London is, the rendezvous of trading people from all parts, Jerusalem at that time was of religious people from all parts. Now, 1. We may here see what were some of those countries whence those strangers came (Act_2:9-11), some from the eastern countries, as the Parthians, Medes, Elamites, and dwellers in Mesopotamia, the posterity of Shem; thence we come in order to Judea, which ought to be mentioned, because, though the language of those in Judea was the same with that which the disciples spoke, yet, before, they spoke it with the north-country tone and dialect (Thou art a Galilean, and thy speech betrays thee), but now they spoke it as correctly as the inhabitants of Judea themselves did. Next come the inhabitants of Cappadocia, Pontus, and that country about Propontis which was particularly called Asia, and these were the countries in which those strangers were scattered to whom St. Peter writes. 1Pe_1:1. Next come the dwellers in Phrygia and Pamphylia, which lay westward, the posterity of Japhet, as were also the strangers of Rome; there were some also that dwelt in the southern parts of Egypt, in the parts of Libya about Cyrene; there were also some from the island of Crete, and some from the deserts of Arabia; but they were all either Jews originally, dispersed into those countries; or proselytes to the Jewish religion, but natives of those countries. Dr. Whitby observes that the Jewish writers about this time, as Philo and Josephus, speak of the Jews as dwelling every where through the whole earth; and that there is not a people upon earth among whom some Jews do not inhabit. 2. We may enquire what brought all those Jews and proselytes together to Jerusalem at this time: not to make a transient visit thither to the feast of pentecost, for they are said to dwell there. They took lodgings there, because there was at this time a general expectation of the appearing of the Messiah; for Daniel's weeks had just now expired, the sceptre had departed from Judah, and it was then generally thought that the kingdom of God would immediately appear, Luk_19:11. This brought those who were most zealous and devout to Jerusalem, to sojourn there, that they might have an early share in the kingdom of the Messiah and the blessings of that kingdom. (They weren't Christians but Jews seeking another Messiah who would restore Israel in every way. More to this in Matthew Henry's Commentary)

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11 hours ago, DonkeySpeaksAgain said:

I believe that God will bless it.

Nope, God won't even enter into it, 

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.  Dan 9:27

The word conform in the Hebrew is augment or add to, there will be a peace plan, the whole world is working on one today, ...what the AC will add to it will be to allow the Jews to build their Temple on the temple mount, here's what we believe, since it's future we can't be dogmatic, ...at the Inauguration he will present himself as god, the Jews will say the same thing to him as they said to Jesus, "You being a man claim to be God," and they will turn and flee.

During the time of Jacob's Trouble the rebuilt Temple will be completely destroyed, when Jesus comes back at the end He will build His own Temple to rule and reign from in Jerusalem, ...the city of the Great King.

Lord bless

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1 hour ago, pinacled said:

Though the two witnesses have escaped death. There will always be a remnant to fight.

No.

 

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3 hours ago, pinacled said:

What?

Seriously. If ever you boast in anyone other than Yeshua. I will be left with no other choice than to embarrass you.

Please Explain: What boast do you think I am making that requires your threat, pinacled? You seem to be cryptic in many of your posts which makes you "interesting" but unfortunately not "edifying" . It would be good if you were plain and simple in your correspondence, so for this I pray in the name of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

 

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8 minutes ago, pinacled said:

I suggest you get some rest youngin.

Youngin? Not a word, but you've got yourself ignored which amounts to a rest.

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On 2/20/2019 at 1:24 PM, simplejeff said:

Perhaps someone knows from the Bible,  but I think hasatan loves the new temple proposal that might soon be built - he apparently wants it built,  and might even pay for it !   

Again, 'apparently'  ,  he's going to use it like the group in rome used constantine to force or trick others and claim(ed) to be God's representative on earth all the while they were God's enemy and opposed to Jesus and killed (or silenced) the disciples of Jesus whenever they could.

Yes, But Once built, God can take it away from Satan in the future. Remember Satan wants to be like the Most High, so this New Temple will be a platform for him to rule from. Later;  For when the Glory of the Lord enters and fills the Temple from the East Gate (which is now closed), the Temple will then be Pure and it is where the Lord Almighty will live with the Israelites forever.  Ezk 43.

God can let someone else build something, but then take it away and give it to others.

In Christ

Montana Marv

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15 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Yes, But Once built, God can take it away from Satan in the future. Remember Satan wants to be like the Most High, so this New Temple will be a platform for him to rule from. Later;  For when the Glory of the Lord enters and fills the Temple from the East Gate (which is now closed), the Temple will then be Pure and it is where the Lord Almighty will live with the Israelites forever.

Don't you think this wisdom would apply to a new temple built by them too?

Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Ask now the priests concerning the law, saying, If one bear holy flesh in the skirt of his garment, and with his skirt do touch bread, or pottage, or wine, or oil, or any meat, shall it be holy? And the priests answered and said, No.  Then said Haggai, If one that is unclean by a dead body touch any of these, shall it be unclean? And the priests answered and said, It shall be unclean.  Then answered Haggai, and said, So is this people, and so is this nation before me, saith the LORD; and so is every work of their hands; and that which they offer there is unclean. Hag 2:11-14

Lord bless

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30 minutes ago, JustPassingThru said:

Don't you think this wisdom would apply to a new temple built by them too?

Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Ask now the priests concerning the law, saying, If one bear holy flesh in the skirt of his garment, and with his skirt do touch bread, or pottage, or wine, or oil, or any meat, shall it be holy? And the priests answered and said, No.  Then said Haggai, If one that is unclean by a dead body touch any of these, shall it be unclean? And the priests answered and said, It shall be unclean.  Then answered Haggai, and said, So is this people, and so is this nation before me, saith the LORD; and so is every work of their hands; and that which they offer there is unclean. Hag 2:11-14

Lord bless

Yes, all that they do will be considered unclean.  Yet, what about us, unclean until the day of our salvation.  Now we are considered clean.  The Temple can be/is considered unclean now, but once the Glory of the Lord enters that Temple, it will no longer be unclean, but cleansed and clean. just as we were.  Where the Glory of the Lord is, it is Clean.

Thanks, good question

In Christ

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On 2/20/2019 at 4:44 PM, Michael37 said:

The grafted-in branches are pretty special actually, being instrumental in the preaching of the Gospel to all nations. Until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled unbelieving Israel remains in the wilderness.

Rev 12:6
(6)  And the woman (Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

The Jews, in particular the Pharisees opposed the Gospel and killed the Messiah, so God's kingdom has been taken away from them. Not only that, because they idolised OT Law and refuse the Gospel of Christ, Israel is under the curse(s) of the OT Law.

Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Mat 21:42-44
(42)  Jesus said unto them, Did you never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
(43)  Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
(44)  And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
 

Until any left of Israel has the testimony of Christ and welcomes Him as their Messiah, Israel remains a desolate house, filled with the demons of worldly religious and political self-service.

Rev 12:14-17
(14)  And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle (Roman Empire), that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
(15)  And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood (of persecution) after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
(16)  And the earth (world) helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
(17)  And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
 

Luk 13:34-35
(34)  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which kills the prophets, and stones them that are sent unto you; how often would I have gathered your children together, as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not!
(35)  Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, You shall not see me, until the time come when you shall say, Blessed is he that comes in the name of the Lord.

And what does the NT say about the 'grafted in' branches? They can also be removed for disobedience. 

The candlesticks in Revelation represent the churches (believers) in heaven, but they too are given a warning (from Jesus) that they too, in the same way as the branches, can be removed.

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On 2/20/2019 at 6:18 PM, Michael37 said:

QUOTE from Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible:

I. The great concourse of people that there was now at Jerusalem, it should seem more than was usual at the feast of pentecost. There were dwelling or abiding at Jerusalem Jews that were devout men, disposed to religion, and that had the fear of God before their eyes (so the word properly signifies), some of them proselytes of righteousness, that were circumcised, and admitted members of the Jewish church, others only proselytes of the gate, that forsook idolatry, and gave up themselves to the worship of the true God, but not to the ceremonial law; some of those that were at Jerusalem now, out of every nation under heaven, whither the Jews were dispersed, or whence proselytes were come. The expression is hyperbolical, denoting that there were some from most of the then known parts of the world; as much as ever Tyre was, or London is, the rendezvous of trading people from all parts, Jerusalem at that time was of religious people from all parts. Now, 1. We may here see what were some of those countries whence those strangers came (Act_2:9-11), some from the eastern countries, as the Parthians, Medes, Elamites, and dwellers in Mesopotamia, the posterity of Shem; thence we come in order to Judea, which ought to be mentioned, because, though the language of those in Judea was the same with that which the disciples spoke, yet, before, they spoke it with the north-country tone and dialect (Thou art a Galilean, and thy speech betrays thee), but now they spoke it as correctly as the inhabitants of Judea themselves did. Next come the inhabitants of Cappadocia, Pontus, and that country about Propontis which was particularly called Asia, and these were the countries in which those strangers were scattered to whom St. Peter writes. 1Pe_1:1. Next come the dwellers in Phrygia and Pamphylia, which lay westward, the posterity of Japhet, as were also the strangers of Rome; there were some also that dwelt in the southern parts of Egypt, in the parts of Libya about Cyrene; there were also some from the island of Crete, and some from the deserts of Arabia; but they were all either Jews originally, dispersed into those countries; or proselytes to the Jewish religion, but natives of those countries. Dr. Whitby observes that the Jewish writers about this time, as Philo and Josephus, speak of the Jews as dwelling every where through the whole earth; and that there is not a people upon earth among whom some Jews do not inhabit. 2. We may enquire what brought all those Jews and proselytes together to Jerusalem at this time: not to make a transient visit thither to the feast of pentecost, for they are said to dwell there. They took lodgings there, because there was at this time a general expectation of the appearing of the Messiah; for Daniel's weeks had just now expired, the sceptre had departed from Judah, and it was then generally thought that the kingdom of God would immediately appear, Luk_19:11. This brought those who were most zealous and devout to Jerusalem, to sojourn there, that they might have an early share in the kingdom of the Messiah and the blessings of that kingdom. (They weren't Christians but Jews seeking another Messiah who would restore Israel in every way. More to this in Matthew Henry's Commentary)

Isn't this referring to the first century? What is the event or time spoken of here?

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