why did Jesus wait 2500ish years to contract with the Jew to keep the 10 commandments

[Marilyn C]

54 minutes ago, RRep said:

ok Marilyn this is where the rubber meets the road, and people talk with a forked tongue. Give me your definition of the word "REPENT" I will not assume, you do not know what it means! 

Did Adam and Eve confess their unbelief to Jesus when He asked what they had done to know they were naked? or did he just blame her and her the serpent? Is not, that called passing the buck? "Humble heart" so with your theology no one is in heaven? what kind of God do you have? My God knows that people are not perfect in fact only God is perfect and He proved that by keeping all the laws and hell yah He raised himself from the dead and many others. Quite frankly I do not want to be god because it will end me going to the lake of fire, where Satan is headed, for wanting nothing to do with Jesus but be A god. 

"God requires a repentant, humble heart." Show me in scripture this exact wording and I will tell you this is why the woman should not preach. 

Then, after all, you wrote the BTW statement. so Isn't it true that if we confess our sin we have something to brag about in heaven? ah haha I confessed my sin now I am in heaven hehehe.  Sorry to burst your bubble woman the only one going to heaven are those who want Jesus in their lives now and we can brag about that and brag about what He had to go through to get some to believe, He is God in the flesh by His Resurrection. 

Be careful how you word things you could sound like a Catholic stuck in replacement theology.

Adam did not even get baptized lol oh no he is in hell. yah right. what kind of God would slowly roll out what He expects of us over 2500 years! It is pretty obvious that believing what God says is very important to Jesus. When He said do not eat from the tree of death you are to believe that. He will not lead you astray.  It was their unbelief that got them in trouble so they had to suffer here for 900 years. We suffer 100 if we are lucky but go to the lake of fire for unbelief. unbelief, before we die, is unforgivable. The Universe is the testament to a creator.  

If we understand the book of Genisis we can filter out the Catholic garbage that made its way into the KJV new testament. Even calling it a new and old testament is garbage.  

So after reading all that and you still have not looked up the meaning of  ?Mateneo? ie. repent = change your mind do a 180 degree turn.  So "Repent and believe," I think that wording will be found in scripture.

Sorry to be brash Jesus was too. "pit of vipers and whitewashed tombs."  

Hi RRep,

Actually it was the Holy Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead, not Jesus Himself.

`But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His spirit who dwells in you.` (Rom. 8: 11)

Now you do know that God`s word was written in Hebrew & Greek, so of course there is no exact words for -

`God requires a repentant, humble heart,` as I said. However there is the meaning of what I wrote in scripture.

`You do not delight in burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit, a broken and contrite heart - these, O God you will not despise.` (Ps. 51: 16 & 17)

(repentant) Contrite heart - penitent, one who repents of sin.

` God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.` (James 4: 6)

(humble) - humble.

So we see that a contrite, repentant heart does NOT brag that it has confessed for God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.

Also if you truly believe, then you will - listen, obey and worship the Lord. All evidence of believing.

Finally your `I want` is based on emotionalism of today. And that is NOT pleasing to God, for there is NO bragging in heaven, as you seem to think there is.

 

Marilyn.

 

[RRep]

7 hours ago, Who me said:

And your evidence that Adam didn't know how God expected him and his decendants to live is?

That Cain and Able sought to worship God shows that they knew how to worship and the correct way to worship. It is in gen 6 that we read that wickedness was increasing.

After Noah a rightous man the world was populated by his sons who knew about God and how to serve him.

That people forgot or ignored what they were taught  about God is not surprising, what is, is how willing God has always been to bring people into his worship see 1Kings 8:41-43 Solomons dedication of the temple includes other nations coming because they have heard about God.

Salvation is from the Jews, because Jesus was born, brought up and lived as a Jew.

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"And your evidence that Adam didn't know how God expected him and his descendants to live is?" So was that required of them to go to heaven? Absolutely not. why you ask. hehe because Jesus should have made it clear as day to them by giving the 10 laws and stating keep them or go to the lake of fire. and not drag out His expectations 2500+ years. not a fair way to run your ship is what I would say to your god.

"That Cain and Able sought to worship God shows that they knew how to worship and the correct way to worship. It is in gen 6 that we read that wickedness was increasing." yeah a free will offering of an animal sacrifice.  The wickedness of unbelief was increasing. The more unbelief in a society, people tend to forget God. keep it (going to heaven) separated bro, from the law.

"After Noah a rightous man the world was populated by his sons who knew about God and how to serve him. " Brother what made Noah righteous, lol, was His belief in the God that created his great granddad (Adam). Noah was not perfect and Ham went into his own mother and Canaan was the offspring of the coupling. Noah curst Canaan remember. 

"That people forgot or ignored what they were taught  about God is not surprising, what is, is how willing God has always been to bring people into his worship see 1Kings 8:41-43 Solomons dedication of the temple includes other nations coming because they have heard about God." Think in context brother. 1 kings is a jewish book, The Jew entered into an impossible contract with Jesus at Mt. Sinai. Remember Moses and Jethro showing him Gods Mountain. Even Jethro knew God/Jesus. ie had a relationship with. Think about this one, Jesus used to talk with the prophets right, because most of the Jews decided they did not want to directly talk to Jesus at Sinai = Jabel el laws, which is in Saudi Arabia. anyway If Jesus wanted to convert people He can do it Himself as He did to Paul/Saul. I believe Jesus is just giving us something to tarry over while He is away. I would not get all tied up in knots trying to convert people that pressure is just coming from pastors who need money to fill there children's bellies. 

"Salvation is from the Jews, because Jesus was born, brought up and lived as a Jew." We need salvation from unbelief. The Jew needed salvation from the Romans, the law contract they could not keep and unbelief. Going to heaven is from believing in Christ's death burial and resurrection...now    1 corith 15.    and eph 2 will tell you why. 

[RRep]

53 minutes ago, angels4u said:

You said,Jesus is the God? Do you agree that Jesus is God ?

Did you asked Him to be your personal Savior?

John 3 

The New Birth

3 There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2 This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”

3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you,unless one is born [a]again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”

5 Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

9 Nicodemus answered and said to Him, “How can these things be?”

10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things? 11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should [c]not perish buthave eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed. 21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

John the Baptist Exalts Christ

22 After these things Jesus and His disciples came into the land of Judea, and there He remained with them and baptized. 23 Now John also was baptizing in Aenon near Salim, because there was much water there. And they came and were baptized. 24 For John had not yet been thrown into prison.

25 Then there arose a dispute between some of John’s disciples and the Jews about purification. 26 And they came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, He who was with you beyond the Jordan, to whom you have testified—behold, He is baptizing, and all are coming to Him!”

27 John answered and said, “A man can receive nothing unless it has been given to him from heaven. 28 You yourselves bear me witness, that I said, ‘I am not the Christ,’ but, ‘I have been sent before Him.’ 29 He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice. Therefore this joy of mine is fulfilled. 30 He must increase, but I must decrease. 31 He who comes from above is above all; he who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above all. 32 And what He has seen and heard, that He testifies; and no one receives His testimony. 33 He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true. 34 For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure. 35 The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand. 36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

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honestly, a lot of the scripture you quote has no value to me in light of the fact that Jesus did not ask or tell Adam to keep the 10 laws for salvation. It all goes in file 13 as Catholic rhetoric adding to scripture.

"Did you ask Him to be your personel savior" would that make you feel comfort knowing I did? and want to continue convercing with me? show me where in scripture it says to do that. Dear? Paul sure as hell did not do that. 

"do you agree that Jesus is God" I do not have to agree woman. Anyone who does mirricals and resurrects is GOD

Are you one of those fruit inspectors? Not realizing the only fruit Jesus is looking for is the edification of Him.

[RRep]

51 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi RRep,

Actually it was the Holy Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead, not Jesus Himself.

`But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His spirit who dwells in you.` (Rom. 8: 11)

Now you do know that God`s word was written in Hebrew & Greek, so of course there is no exact words for -

`God requires a repentant, humble heart,` as I said. However there is the meaning of what I wrote in scripture.

`You do not delight in burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit, a broken and contrite heart - these, O God you will not despise.` (Ps. 51: 16 & 17)

(repentant) Contrite heart - penitent, one who repents of sin.

` God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.` (James 4: 6)

(humble) - humble.

So we see that a contrite, repentant heart does NOT brag that it has confessed for God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.

Also if you truly believe, then you will - listen, obey and worship the Lord. All evidence of believing.

Finally your `I want` is based on emotionalism of today. And that is NOT pleasing to God, for there is NO bragging in heaven, as you seem to think there is.

 

Marilyn.

 

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marilyn wow no one will be forced to not bragg in heaven but they will have nothing to bragg about in terms of how they got into heaven. Gess wiss woman! God is perfect nothing is pleasing but perfection, good thing grace is an atribute of a creator. Get this through your head Jesus only cares to have believers  who want Him in thier lives in heaven. Satan is out because he did not want Jesus. Jesus's grace kicked him to the earth  to try to be god of it and is doing a bad job.

"Actually it was the holy spirit that raised Jesus from the dead." ok lets get tectnical. It was Jesus/God/spirit that raised the body reanimated it. caused it to vibrate again. there how is that.  emoji toung sticking out.

well you do know that hebrew  is a form of Aramaic(Abraham)lol 

You do understand that the use of the word OBEY brings the connotation of a dictator god. That god you have is really Satan, who needs to control us to survive off our sweat. Jesus is a servent King, needs nothing from us. you choose now who you want to live with for eternity.

paslms 51 was written by a guy trying to figure out who God is. because God is not very forth coming it would seem until you understand the Godman.  

" god resists the proud" that has nothing to do with going to heaven!

If I/you truly believe" I will know where the Gospel is found in scripture and give it out to the masses 1 corith 15 

"contrite repentant heart" well i guess Adam And Eve are doomed? lol seems to be alot of doing  going on  to get into your Catholic heaven. Go to blueletterbible.org and search all the different bible versions for all the times God repented(changed his mind) also look up all the times Obey is used and figure out what faction wrote that version.  shed some light in your darkness. your use of the word "penitent" is a red flag. 

You are spewing cult message  in a believer only to enter heaven cite. The sad thing is you bit the hook I was fishing for you with. this is both good and bad  I will leave it up to you, the know it all, to figure out the good and  bad. 

[FresnoJoe]

On 2/22/2019 at 6:53 PM, RRep said:

no one but the Jews....
needed to be saved from the Law contract they foolishly agreed to keep....

Jesus

No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is Himself God and is at the Father’s side, has made Him known. John 1:18 (Berean Study Bible)

Gave The Law

When the LORD finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai, he gave him the two tablets of the covenant law, the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God. Exodus 31:18 (New International Version)

Through Moses To The Jew

Thus the LORD used to speak to Moses face to face, just as a man speaks to his friend. When Moses returned to the camp, his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, would not depart from the tent. Exodus 33:11 (New American Standard Bible)

So, Why Should Some Fellow Think It Was Foolishness

For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or one stroke of a letter will pass away from the law until all things are accomplished. Matthew 5:18 (Christian Standard Bible)

~

It Is Apparent To Any Worthy Reader

And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire from hell. James 3:6 (Webster Bible Translation)

That By One's Tone And Contempt Toward Believers

But the things which proceed out of the mouth come out of the heart, and they defile the man. Matthew 15:18 (World English Bible)

It Is Needful Of The Holy Spirit Before Correctly Addressing The Beloved

As it is written, "There is no one righteous; no, not one."
"There is no one who understands. There is no one who seeks after God.
They have all turned aside. They have together become unprofitable. There is no one who does good, there is not even one."
"Their throat is an open tomb. With their tongues they have used deceit." "Viper's poison is under their lips;"

"Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness." Romans 3:10-14 (New Heart English Bible)

Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:
The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27 (King James Bible)

Love, Your Brother Joe

~

Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. Psalms 119:160 (King James Bible)

The Bible contains the mind of God, the state of man, the way of salvation, the doom of sinners, and the happiness of believers. Its doctrines are holy, its precepts are binding, its histories are true, and its decisions are immutable.

Read it to be wise, believe it to be safe, and practice it to be holy. It contains light to direct you, food to support you, and comfort to cheer you.

It is the traveler’s map, the pilgrim’s staff, the pilot’s compass, the soldier’s sword and the Christian’s charter. Here too, Heaven is opened and the gates of Hell disclosed.

Christ is its grand subject, our good its design, and the glory of God its end. It should fill the memory, rule the heart and guide the feet. Read it slowly, frequently and prayerfully.  It is a mine of wealth, a paradise of glory, and a river of pleasure.

It is given you in life, will be opened at the judgment, and be remembered forever. It involves the highest responsibility, rewards the greatest labor, and will condemn all who trifle with its sacred contents.

From The Inside Of My Gideon New Testament

[George]

This thread has become way too personal!  I'm closing down the thread.  RRep, we discuss topics in a way that does not degrade another person.  For now, I'm placing you on Moderator Review until you understand what we expect.  It's very basic ... we discuss in love ... and not rudely or in a spirit of condemnation.     Just stick to the topic.