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16 minutes ago, backontrack said:

Heaven will be for those who are saved by believing and confessing Christ is the son of God his free gift to us. John 3:16 but heaven will be there even when people are in hell for rejecting this free gift and that is sad 2 different places one way to salvation.

Or is heaven the circumstances we find ourselves in when we make right decisions?

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32 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

You make it sound very easy.

Perception can be misleading, but facts are not. I was mainly addressing the way I see salvation and what follows in the christian walk as I read scripture.  It there is an error in my theology, by all means point them out as I am willing to learn from others too.

I read also, that the christian life is not easy as outlined in the scripture below and as I myself has and is a witness and experience too.

Anyway, I will move on now and hope to dialogue again.

1 Peter 4 King James Version (KJV)

12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.

16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

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7 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

You make it sound very easy.

 

 

Its this easy....... simply say, from your heart ( and God knows your heart)......Lord Jesus, have mercy on me , a sinner.....seeing one’s self as a lost sinner is the key to everything......

  “ Anybody that asks for mercy shall receive it”

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6 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 

 

Its this easy....... simply say, from your heart ( and God knows your heart)......Lord Jesus, have mercy on me , a sinner.....seeing one’s self as a lost sinner is the key to everything......

  “ Anybody that asks for mercy shall receive it”

What is the next step?

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16 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

Going to heaven is easy, I believe - all we have to do is repent (Matt 4:17). Not many people are crazy about the idea of repenting, though.

All we must do is repent and BELIEVE IN CHRIST .    lets make sure we say that in full .   Because I know lots of folks who follow not Christ

they pray to whatever , and they make all sorts of repentance mode prayers .   BUT THIER END will not be GOOD .

FOR their is NO salvation found in any other name than Christ .  Let us always be saying this  .     And if one does err from the truth ,  THEN do all to correct , rebuke

and pray they be led to repentance by a good godly sorrowing .  

I have a wonderful saying .    To any and all who holler Out JESUS name ,  yet their faith has no evidence , no works , they deceive themselves , its dead faith .

But on the other hand all the works in the world without faith in CHRIST is only death and the end is the second death .

May this sink so deep into hearts and minds , that if it were possible it could be seen on an encephlogram .   

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2 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

What is the next step?

How bout this beauty .   How do we know one is truly under the grace of GOD that does bring salvation .

Well watch how they walk as they profess Christ .  For the grace of GOD that brings salvation ,   OH it teaches us to DENY all ungodliness and worldy lusts

to be walking soberly , righteously and godly in this world as we await the coming of our LORD .

For the goodness of GOD leads to repentance .    It does not lead nor keep one in the darkness of sin .    It changes the heart , the mind , the inner conscious

and they walk by the power of HIS Spirit .    And if any errs they will be fast to correct those who err and they follow the pattern JESUS set and the apostels kept .

And they do it with JOY  , for the burden of the Lord is light , for it is a joy to be walking after the Spirit , where every word of HIS , is loved and treasured .

If a man says I love GOD , I LOVE CHRIST ,  yet twists HIS sayings ,   Better know and understand that man is a LIAR and loves not CHRIST .

And if one loves not Christ ,  I assure us all they LOVE NOT the FATHER who sent HIM .   Every saying of JESUS ought be loved and treasured , honored through obedience .

For if a man denies Christ ,   HE will be DENIED .     And now a word .   They profess to KNOW HIM  , yet in WORKS DENY HIM.     be a hearer and a doer or its all decepetion .

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40 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

All we must do is repent and BELIEVE IN CHRIST .    lets make sure we say that in full .   Because I know lots of folks who follow not Christ

they pray to whatever , and they make all sorts of repentance mode prayers .   BUT THIER END will not be GOOD .

FOR their is NO salvation found in any other name than Christ .  Let us always be saying this  .     And if one does err from the truth ,  THEN do all to correct , rebuke

and pray they be led to repentance by a good godly sorrowing .  

I have a wonderful saying .    To any and all who holler Out JESUS name ,  yet their faith has no evidence , no works , they deceive themselves , its dead faith .

But on the other hand all the works in the world without faith in CHRIST is only death and the end is the second death .

May this sink so deep into hearts and minds , that if it were possible it could be seen on an encephlogram .   

But I would say that part of repentance is believing In Christ.

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34 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

How bout this beauty .   How do we know one is truly under the grace of GOD that does bring salvation .

Well watch how they walk as they profess Christ .  For the grace of GOD that brings salvation ,   OH it teaches us to DENY all ungodliness and worldy lusts

to be walking soberly , righteously and godly in this world as we await the coming of our LORD .

For the goodness of GOD leads to repentance .    It does not lead nor keep one in the darkness of sin .    It changes the heart , the mind , the inner conscious

and they walk by the power of HIS Spirit .    And if any errs they will be fast to correct those who err and they follow the pattern JESUS set and the apostels kept .

And they do it with JOY  , for the burden of the Lord is light , for it is a joy to be walking after the Spirit , where every word of HIS , is loved and treasured .

If a man says I love GOD , I LOVE CHRIST ,  yet twists HIS sayings ,   Better know and understand that man is a LIAR and loves not CHRIST .

And if one loves not Christ ,  I assure us all they LOVE NOT the FATHER who sent HIM .   Every saying of JESUS ought be loved and treasured , honored through obedience .

For if a man denies Christ ,   HE will be DENIED .     And now a word .   They profess to KNOW HIM  , yet in WORKS DENY HIM.     be a hearer and a doer or its all decepetion .

I would imagine that the Lord has his own plans for us, and it is up to us to follow where he leads us.

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5 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

But I would say that part of repentance is believing In Christ.

The goodness of GOD leads us to repentance .   Marvel not , for no man can come to ME , lest the Father draws , leads Him .

OH IT IS .

But if any man is in Christ HE is a new creature .   He don't walk n darkness , nor is he of the night .   

The scary thing is , most walk in willfull sin , they live in darkness and are of the night and they think they of the day cause they say we believe in Christ .

I know I have said , what I say next before , but so I say this again .  I have declared all out war against the lies and lie of men and will expose

them and point ONLY to Christ and pure sound doctrine of His every word , pattern , his pattern which the true apostels kept and taught .

For the grace of GOD is in those who are in Christ , and by this grace we point to CHRIST alone and we correct any who errs and we expose all false teachers

so that not a one will go anywhere near them and sit under them .    For if we are of HIM we love HIM and the others and we desire none to perish . 

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9 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

The goodness of GOD leads us to repentance .   Marvel not , for no man can come to ME , lest the Father draws , leads Him .

OH IT IS .

But if any man is in Christ HE is a new creature .   He don't walk n darkness , nor is he of the night .   

The scary thing is , most walk in willfull sin , they live in darkness and are of the night and they think they of the day cause they say we believe in Christ .

I know I have said , what I say next before , but so I say this again .  I have declared all out war against the lies and lie of men and will expose

them and point ONLY to Christ and pure sound doctrine of His every word , pattern , his pattern which the true apostels kept and taught .

For the grace of GOD is in those who are in Christ , and by this grace we point to CHRIST alone and we correct any who errs and we expose all false teachers

so that not a one will go anywhere near them and sit under them .    For if we are of HIM we love HIM and the others and we desire none to perish . 

I would never want to offend anyone that believes in the rapture, but I truly pray they will understand that there is no flying away that’s going to happen to escape the tribulations that will be upon us soon.  We need to be ready to stand firm, SEALED with God’s Truth in our foreheads, knowing what the first seal mentioned in Revelation is:  that we must know that the antichrist comes first, and you better believe he is so full of lies and deception that, if possible, even the Elect could be deceived!… though I do not believe they will be because they know that the false one appears first.  

-Selah

 

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