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Or... is it really inhibited religious people only recently recovering from past prudish behavior and beliefs?

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I'd say the saturation is real. A lot of bad behaviors are being touted as acceptable under the guises of "tolerance" and "liberation". The internet has allowed pornography, once something regarded as shameful and something a person would have to be secretive about, to become widespread and easily accessible to any teenager with a phone. As the internet becomes more and more a part of our daily lives that problem will only increase. Look back at what happened to some of the more sexually "tolerant" and "liberated" societies like ancient Rome, Babylon, and so on. Widespread sexual immorality isn't the only factor involved in the fall of a society but it does seem to be a factor, and there are some sound biological reasons (as well as scriptural ones!) for why it fits in to a downfall.

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1 hour ago, JohnD said:

Or... is it really inhibited religious people only recently recovering from past prudish behavior and beliefs?

The porn is prevalent and children are exposed. It's as simple as moving all porn (at least in one sexual saturation area) to .XXX domains and protecting children! Let's start there!

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31 minutes ago, Billiards Ball said:

The porn is prevalent and children are exposed. It's as simple as moving all porn (at least in one sexual saturation area) to .XXX domains and protecting children! Let's start there!

 I don't get it I guess. I don't think my Bible espouses my putting all my sin in one easier to find locale, but instead demands I repent of it, being turned to God by God for God's pleasure and for my own eternal fellowship with my creator instead.  I would venture a guess that children exposed to porn are less likely adversely affected and addicted to it than I might be as an adult. Why bunch  it and save it all for me? ???

Seems to me people are not quite as saturated in this world today as was much of the "civilized" world of old, of the Greek culture, and further back to the city of such aggressive shame as that which Lot and his family inhabited. I have not had  groups of men and demons demanding my guests be turned out to them for use in satisfying their perversions. Nor I have offered up my daughters instead.

 I do think mankind has been steeped in depravity from the moment of awareness. From the moment mankind tried to fix sin by covering and hiding all the while being aware of it. Seems to me a plea of mercy upon me is my only salvation and it is provided not of my doing but by God having suffered it's shame for me.

To me this is a time of times, a great beginning  time of the signs in which there is awesome joy  to be found in the worship of my Lord my savior  Jesus by whose blood I am washed to be seen as white as snow in the eyes of God the Father.

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Saturation. I remember watching my first porn video back when I was like, 11 or 12 years old. It wasn't even on a legit porn site, it was just posted on Myspace (back when it was a social site and not just for music). Many people think it's laughable and ridiculous if you're a virgin past the age of 16, or even earlier. Even much of the clothing people wear anymore, men and women, is really inappropriate. Even the stuff made for children; it's sad when you see some 7 year old girl wearing tight short shorts and what could basically qualify as a sport bra for a top.

Humankind has always been depraved, but has gone through cycles of acceptability. Things go from bad to worse, and people let all manner of depravity loose. It's laughable that Hitler, HITLER, was the one who's movement cleaned up Berlin from what it was, with legalized prostitution and murder and all manner of wickedness. Likewise, then there's a period of staunch protocols against such activity. Think back to the days when even at the implication of witchcraft, with no chance to defend themselves, so many people in Salem were executed. Then there's the gradual loosening up again, but still having lingering staunch protocols. I Dream of Jeanie got kicked off the air because, while Jeannie could have her cleavage visible, her belly button appeared too often. It was okay for a guy to look at her chest, but the remnant of where her umbilical cord was, that was far too lewd. Then, lo and behold, we're back to the days when 13 year olds get knocked up and people are very much considering to make prostitution legal.

As for the "prudish" people, I'd like to think that's a bit of a misconception. A girl goes through her whole life without being touched once, but then a boy taps her shoulder to get her attention, and that makes her some kind of sex maniac? It's an idea presented by the opposition, this idea that a person needs to have a deep and complex understanding of sexuality, and likewise engage in it and experiment with it often, in order to function like a "normal" human being. Perhaps there might be something about repressed sexuality over a larger time span, like if you were to look at a young gay man back in 1973 compared to now. He didn't live in an area where it was acceptable, and so likely had few and far between opportunities, but nowadays runs loose and wild with that guy and this guy, because the societal situation has changed. What do we blame for the fire blazing higher; the fire itself, or the fuel added to it? If a fire cannot breathe and expand further, it eventually dwindles into embers. However, if you add fuel to it AKA loosened values in society in general, then that is what makes the fire burn higher. I just blame the fuel, myself.

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26 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

 I don't get it I guess. I don't think my Bible espouses my putting all my sin in one easier to find locale, but instead demands I repent of it, being turned to God by God for God's pleasure and for my own eternal fellowship with my creator instead.  I would venture a guess that children exposed to porn are less likely adversely affected and addicted to it than I might be as an adult. Why bunch  it and save it all for me? ???

Seems to me people are not quite as saturated in this world today as was much of the "civilized" world of old, of the Greek culture, and further back to the city of such aggressive shame as that which Lot and his family inhabited. I have not had  groups of men and demons demanding my guests be turned out to them for use in satisfying their perversions. Nor I have offered up my daughters instead.

 I do think mankind has been steeped in depravity from the moment of awareness. From the moment mankind tried to fix sin by covering and hiding all the while being aware of it. Seems to me a plea of mercy upon me is my only salvation and it is provided not of my doing but by God having suffered it's shame for me.

To me this is a time of times, a great beginning  time of the signs in which there is awesome joy  to be found in the worship of my Lord my savior  Jesus by whose blood I am washed to be seen as white as snow in the eyes of God the Father.

Yes, because of Jesus's advent and the influence of the Bible in this world, we don't (entirely) live in Sodom. Sure.

Here's the problem--every study and testimony I've seen shows the hardest porn addicts are exposed to porn in early (or pre-) adolescence. There are dozens of verses indicating that children should be kept in the light and away from smut!

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3 hours ago, JohnD said:

Or... is it really inhibited religious people only recently recovering from past prudish behavior and beliefs?

I think we are subjected to a sex saturated society. Satan loves it.

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100ish years ago the age of consent laws were ridiculously low

Was legal to sleep with a 7 year old in Delaware

Must be Satan pushing those higher and higher consent ages

 

 

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5 hours ago, JohnD said:

Or... is it really inhibited religious people only recently recovering from past prudish behavior and beliefs?

I don't think it is more prevalent than it was in the early 1900's. It does go a bit further in skin covering, or should I say less.

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Does the Pope wear a funny hat?

OF COURSE we are in a sex saturated society. Advertisers figured out a hundred years ago that sex sells. And it is now EVERYWHERE. 

Whenever someone says to me, "The bible sez money is the root of all evil.", first I tell them that that is not what the bible sez, but second, Sex is the root of a lot more evil than money is. To the human animal we occupy (our "natural man" body), pretty much everything comes down to sex. It's the way we're wired. That is why it's a constant struggle - more for some, and less for others, but always there. 

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