snugpug240 Posted March 31, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 5 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 10 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/19/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted March 31, 2019 From a biblical standpoint, do you believe there is a difference between joy and happiness? If you can provide verses to support your stance, please cite them. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted March 31, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.93 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted March 31, 2019 32 minutes ago, snugpug240 said: From a biblical standpoint, do you believe there is a difference between joy and happiness? If you can provide verses to support your stance, please cite them. Thank you! Interesting question, snugpug. I always had a frame of mind, that happiness was a general sense of contentment, and well-being in our place with the Lord. Joy on the other hand, was something of like an elated feeling one can get, such as worship and praise. And joyful feelings in general, can come and go at times, not being a continual state of emotion. However, when glancing through a brief biblical commentary, it said the opposite was true. Oh well. There goes my train of thought! God bless you for bringing up the topic. Shalom, David/BeauJangles Nehemiah 8:10 KJV Then he said unto them, go thy way, eat the fat, and drink the sweet, and send portions unto them for whom nothing is prepared: for this day is holy unto our Lord: neither by ye sorry; for the joy of the Lord is your strength. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Mclees Posted March 31, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 158 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,915 Content Per Day: 0.81 Reputation: 910 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/15/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 hour ago, snugpug240 said: From a biblical standpoint, do you believe there is a difference between joy and happiness? If you can provide verses to support your stance, please cite them. Thank you! I think it should be lie peace and contentment. An inner sense of well being. That only comes from God. I don't have specific scripture right now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzephanyahu Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,625 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2,033 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/10/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2019 Shalom sister, Take a look at the below links for the specific use of the words your mentioned, which might be of help: JOY Hebrew: Chedvah - Strong's 2304 Greek: Chara - Strong's 5479 HAPPINESS Hebrew: Osher - Strong's 837 Greek: Makarios - Strong's 3107 As for my opinion and how I understand it, Joy is the root of Happiness, which is a fruit. Now, if the fruit is gone, you can still have Joy. For example, I feel Joy inside me, from the Spirit of God. Sometimes I can be happy and other times I can be sad. However, during those times that Joy is still present within me, unshakeable, albeit varying in effervescence. Now you could call it Peace instead of Joy, but that doesn't quite describe it positively enough. Perhaps the better word is Shalom (Strong's 7965). But perhaps Joy/Shalom is not the root of Happiness, but also a fruit of something much deeper? Maybe the order goes: Alignment to Yahweh >> Ruach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit) >> Eternal Life >> Joy/Shalom >> Love >> Happiness >> etc. If you take away from this list, one-by-one, starting from the right, the rest will still stand. However, if you take away from the left, the rest will come tumbling down. Love & Shalom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blessings from above Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 76 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 185 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 75 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/27/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2019 Joy is something eternal that that is measured on obedience and . Happiness is a feeling that is temporal and cannot be measured on the grounds of faith. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiards Ball Posted April 2, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,502 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 2, 2019 On 3/31/2019 at 5:58 PM, snugpug240 said: From a biblical standpoint, do you believe there is a difference between joy and happiness? If you can provide verses to support your stance, please cite them. Thank you! Hard to provide verses, since I'm not sure there is a verse that references happiness specifically, while many reference joy. Joy = despite circumstances, feeling upbeat and feeling like God has your back Happiness = temporary circumstances provide feeling, a TV show, winning a lottery, a good meal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest In Him Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) Rid me, and deliver me from the hand of strange children, whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood: That our sons may be as plants grown up in their youth; that our daughters may be as corner stones, polished after the similitude of a palace: That our garners may be full, affording all manner of store: that our sheep may bring forth thousands and ten thousands in our streets: That our oxen may be strong to labour; that there be no breaking in, nor going out; that there be no complaining in our streets. Happy is that people, that is in such a case: yea, happy is that people, whose God is the LORD. Psalm 144:11-15 ❤️ Edited April 2, 2019 by In Him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted April 2, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 950 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,524 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 9,025 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted April 2, 2019 . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted April 3, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 950 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,524 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 9,025 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Both joy and happy are found within a state of felicity. Yet it is more likely that one can count sadness for joy, but not sadness as happy but merely content. It is a matter of countenance maintained or fallen. Joy being a process and happy being a result. [ How about that?] - From deep in my heart deep in my heart.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted April 3, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 185 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,224 Content Per Day: 3.34 Reputation: 16,647 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted April 3, 2019 Word-studies Cognate: 5479 xará (another feminine noun from the root xar-, "extend favor, lean towards, be favorably disposed") – properly, the awareness (of God's) grace, favor; joy ("grace recognized"). According to this we have joy when we recognize God's grace, His underserved mercy. Personally, I have joy just fellowshipping with God. There is deep contentment in it as well, and a sense of well being even when circumstance are not the best. The joy of the Lord is my strength. The beatitudes start with the word blessed, which also means happy and to be envied. I don't always associate the circumstances in the beatitudes with happiness, such as being persecuted. I think of happy as being pleased, delighted or merry. They are transient feelings the way I use them and are more superficial since they are dependent on circumstances. Perhaps the word has changed in meaning slightly. When I am going through trials I may be rejoicing in the Lord and have joy; I don't remember being happy as in gleeful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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