Ogner Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) Does God love satan? Should we love enemies of God? Should we love satan and his children? Can we love God & satan? What is this if not betrayal? Do you think it's possible to love God and satan at the same time? Edited April 1, 2019 by Ogner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.24 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2019 I suggest that we look at who they are, what they represent, and then ask if that is what you can love. Keep in mind that angels are not offered salvation through Christ as they have been with God since the beginning of their existence and there is no faith needed for they know He is God. AS for loving your enemies, one can love the person but hate what they do or believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,298 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,685 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ogner said: Does God love satan? Should we love enemies of God? Should we love satan and his children? Can we love God & satan? What is this if not betrayal? Do you think it's possible to love God and satan at the same time? We are not called to have anything to do with the devil. We are called to love other people. That does mean loving the followers of the devil, the intention is always to tell them about Jesus, that they might come to a saving knowledge of him. As the bible says no one can serve two master. It is not possible to love both God and the devil. So stay with being obedient to Jesus's commands and leave the devil alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, OneLight said: I suggest that we look at who they are, what they represent, and then ask if that is what you can love. Keep in mind that angels are not offered salvation through Christ as they have been with God since the beginning of their existence and there is no faith needed for they know He is God. AS for loving your enemies, one can love the person but hate what they do or believe. What about enemies of God? Where God says that we should love his enemies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Who me said: We are not called to have anything to do with the devil. We are called to love other people. That does mean loving the followers of the devil, the intention is always to tell them about Jesus, that they might come to a saving knowledge of him. As the bible says no one can serve two master. It is not possible to love both God and the devil. So stay with being obedient to Jesus's commands and leave the devil alone. Are you trying to tell that they hate us because of God and we should love them because of God? What if I can't? You think God will punish me and I'm going to hell for that? Edited April 1, 2019 by Ogner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.32 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted April 1, 2019 45 minutes ago, Ogner said: Does God love satan? Should we love enemies of God? Should we love satan and his children? Can we love God & satan? What is this if not betrayal? Do you think it's possible to love God and satan at the same time? First you have to understand what love is. Love is treating people as you would have them treat you. So, yes, we love Satan, but we also know that Satan's goal is to tempt us into sin and destroy our lives. Therefore, we must have nothing to do with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,298 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,685 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ogner said: You're trying to tell that they hate us because of God and we should love them because of God? What if I can't? You think God will punish me and I'm going to hell for that? Keep things simple. It always helps. As a Christian we are to be respectfull to all we meet, whether that is presidents, princes or paupers. We should take the same leval of care to them in how we deal with them. In our giving to charity we should take the same care in assessing the effectiveness of that charity regardless of whether it is a Christian or a secular charity. That is the simplest way of loving others. The next is to pray for people. Not the 'oh God bless ...' rubish but intelligent prayers asking for there good based on your knowledge of their needs. Wil God send you to hell because you haven't done the above? God send unrepentant sinners to hell, not disobedient christians. What you won't get is to hear Jesus say , " Well done," Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.24 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 1, 2019 49 minutes ago, Ogner said: What about enemies of God? Where God says that we should love his enemies? Can you clarify what you mean by enemies of God? Do you mean atheist? Demons? Those who reject Christ? I don't believe there is a "one size fits all" answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogner Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 562 Content Per Day: 0.19 Reputation: 268 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/27/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said: First you have to understand what love is. Love is treating people as you would have them treat you. So, yes, we love Satan, but we also know that Satan's goal is to tempt us into sin and destroy our lives. Therefore, we must have nothing to do with him. Does God forgive those who hate Jesus despite all the good He's done? Does God forgive those who do not ask him? They hate Jesus after all the sacrifices He made for them. And they are always going to hate us because of God, nothing we ever do will change that. Why should I forgive and love thoes who wish me harm and show no mercy on me because I love God? What if I can't? You think God will punish me and I'm going to hell for that? Edited April 1, 2019 by Ogner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted April 1, 2019 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.32 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ogner said: Does God forgive those who hate Jesus despite all the good He's done? Does God forgive those who do not ask him? They hate Jesus after all the sacrifices He made for them. And they are always going to hate us because of God, nothing we ever do will change that. Why should I forgive and love thoes who wish me harm and show no mercy on me because I love God? The Lord forgives those who repent of their sin. I disagree with your premise that "They are always going to hate us because of God, nothing we ever do will change that." People do change. I see no need for you to forgive those who wish you harm and show no mercy because you love the Lord. But when they repent, you are required to forgive them. Edited April 1, 2019 by johnthebaptist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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