MARK 1:44 THE LAW OF MOSES AND YOU

[douge]

7 hours ago, JohnD said:

The Law of Moses was also in place until the death of the Messiah on the Cross.

Hebrews 9:16–17 (AV)
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

 

Hi

Yes absolutely right

[Elihoenai]

On 4/14/2019 at 12:04 PM, pinacled said:

I hadn't given much notice to the curse as something to consider as written only. More specifically I had thought that the curse was due to an oath with blood as witness. The blood testifies of the oath.

1 corinthians 9;

Sort of like a contractual agreement of restitution. 

The final reconciliation being our Redeemers death and resurection to Eternal life. The old oaths of restituting punishment had been perverted by a corrupt lineage of priest that defiled the populace until a levite known as yochanon was born.

Which is why I imagine he did not partake of the offerings at the temple. Instead lived on a more specific diet.

Blessings Always

If you were Abraham's Seed, you would do the works of Abraham. Hypocritical Scribes and Pharisees!

 

John 8:38-39 Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

38 I -- that which I have seen with my Father do speak, and ye, therefore, that which ye have seen with your father -- ye do.'

39 They answered and said to him, `Our father is Abraham;' Jesus saith to them, `If children of Abraham ye were, the works of Abraham ye were doing;

 

Matthew 23:4 King James Version (KJV)

4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

 

Greetings!

[Elihoenai]

20 hours ago, douge said:

Hello

Your posts are hard to follow

I originally thought you were speaking of Gentile proselytes of Israel as to whether or not they had to be circumcised. I couldn't find a verse at first but just for the record here is one:

Exodus 12:48  And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

Now to the point in regard to Gentiles being circumcised today.....it profits nothing. 1 Corinthians 7:19

Amen! None of these shall want her mate.

Uncircumcised Gentiles must be Circumcised.

 

Isaiah 34:16 Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

16 Seek out of the book of Jehovah, and read, One of these hath not been lacking, None hath missed its companion, For My mouth -- it hath commanded, And His spirit -- He hath gathered them.

 

Hebrews 13:8 King James Version (KJV)

8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

[Elihoenai]

20 hours ago, JohnD said:

The Law of Moses was also in place until the death of the Messiah on the Cross.

Hebrews 9:16–17 (AV)
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

 

Goats you are!

In his Law, he doth meditate day and night. The Wonderful Laws of Elohim.

 

Matthew 17:1-3 Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

17 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, and James, and John his brother, and doth bring them up to a high mount by themselves,

2 and he was transfigured before them, and his face shone as the sun, and his garments did become white as the light,

3 and lo, appear to them did Moses and Elijah, talking together with him.
 

Edited April 15, 2019 by Elihoenai
Clarity

[Elihoenai]

3 hours ago, pinacled said:

Good morning,

 

Yes they were very corrupt leaders. The priest even conspired to kill Yeshua with some of those hypocrites. In most if not all of the instances its as if they are looking to find fault as evidence to charge. When the charade would not work they resorted false witness. Then even further used a foreign court to convict him to death.

That's because they new full well that the Royal Torah would never of convicted Yeshua of a crime.

The burdens remind me of cruel taskmasters. They were caught beating the servants of the Lord.

Blessings Always

Good morning,

 

Yet Yeshua knew aforetime that these things would come to pass and fully accepted the Will of the Father. True Disciples of Yeshua do likewise as he did. We do well to bring these things into remembrance.

 

Matthew 16:23 King James Version (KJV)

23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

 

1 Corinthians 11:25-26 King James Version (KJV)

25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

Edited April 15, 2019 by Elihoenai

[Elihoenai]

25 minutes ago, pinacled said:

Yeshua, Was, is, and is to come.

Yes, true disciples follow him in serving the will of HaShem. 

 They are to serve as a royal priesthood after the manner of melcheizedek.

Blessings to the Lord in blessing avraham.

As for the comment of rebuke you mentioned. Think of who that was directed at. Have you ever considered that perhaps kefa(peter) had been influenced by Judas. After all the disciples were typically in pairs.

Even more important Is that the rebuke would of been heard by them all. 

Just a thought.

 

Filthy Judas/Judah/Jew is numbered among the twelve and agreed to betray/kill Yeshua for money.

 

Luke 22:1-5 King James Version (KJV)

22 Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover.

2 And the chief priests and scribes sought how they might kill him; for they feared the people.

3 Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.

4 And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them.

5 And they were glad, and covenanted to give him money.

[Elihoenai]

29 minutes ago, pinacled said:

Nor sure if Judas is of the tribe of yhdh. 

perhaps he's of the tribe of Binyamin. 

Just a thought.

According to the Strong's Concordance and Dictionary of Scripture Proper names, Judas is Greek for Judah/Jew.

The Mystery of this could be wrapped up in the following question:

 

Given that Circumcision is common in the USA, is USA a Jewish Nation?

 Prevalence of circumcision

 The prevalence of circumcision is the percentage of males in a given population who have been circumcised. The rates vary widely by country, from virtually 0% in Honduras and Japan, to 3.8% in the United Kingdom, to 7% in Spain, to 45% in South Africa, to 82.5% in the United States, to over 90% in many Muslim-majority countries.[2][3][4] In 2007, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimated 33% of adult males worldwide (aged 15+) are circumcised, with about two-thirds of those being Muslims.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_circumcision
 

Edited April 15, 2019 by Elihoenai

[Elihoenai]

13 hours ago, pinacled said:

Good afternoon,

Linguistics is an interesting subject concerning the Greek transliterations. But shouldn't the focus been best applied to Judas surname?

Not to mention the historical context of the era. There are plenty of factors to explore in order to gain a broader picture.

Blessings Always

Good afternoon,

 

The focus should be on the firstname Judas/Judah/Jew and the surname Iscariot. Being in Scripture both names are important. All Scripture is Inspired by Elohim and profitable.

During betrayal, Yeshua called Judas/Judah/Jew by his firstname Judas .

 

Luke 22:47-48 King James Version (KJV)

47 And while he yet spake, behold a multitude, and he that was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them, and drew near unto Jesus to kiss him.

48 But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?

  

A member on these forums is yet to provide a direct answer to the following question:

Given that Circumcision is common in the USA, is USA a Jewish Nation?

[Blood Bought 1953]

1 hour ago, Elihoenai said:

Good afternoon,

 

The focus should be on the firstname Judas/Judah/Jew and the surname Iscariot. Being in Scripture both names are important. All Scripture is Inspired by Elohim and profitable.

During betrayal, Yeshua called Judas/Judah/Jew by his firstname Judas .

 

Luke 22:47-48 King James Version (KJV)

47 And while he yet spake, behold a multitude, and he that was called Judas, one of the twelve, went before them, and drew near unto Jesus to kiss him.

48 But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?

  

A member on these forums is yet to provide a direct answer to the following question:

Given that Circumcision is common in the USA, is USA a Jewish Nation?

 

It is a circumsized nation, not a Jewish Nation......

[Elihoenai]

45 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 

It is a circumsized nation, not a Jewish Nation......

Thanks for your reply.

The above quote is an answer to the following question:

Given that Circumcision is common in the USA, is USA a Jewish Nation?

 

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

9 have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites,

10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, the reign of God shall inherit.
 

 

Galatians 5:19-21 King James Version (KJV)

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Edited April 16, 2019 by Elihoenai