WordSword Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 163 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,152 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 639 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted April 17, 2019 Note: Lately cannot find an alignment option. God bless! Upon encountering the title of this article one’s first thought might seem negative about it, but with all who become “born again” there is a period of growth that involves learning in the Word of God about the “old man,” which is the sin nature first seen in Adam and Eve, then in the entirety of their progeny—mankind (Rom 5:12-19). Upon rebirth the soul becomes “spiritually minded,” due to the imparting of the Spirit of God and the new nature (new man); and the old man continues to become more obviously identifiable so that we can continue to be taught by it—through the contrast of it with the new man! Thus, it’s our position in Christ that will mature our walk in Christ, as the carnality will be seen to progressively decrease, as our spirituality increases, thereby maturing from a carnal Christian to a spiritual Christian (1Co 3:1); which within the last few generations requires much time due to the multitude of errant Biblical doctrines, resulting (in my opinion) from the lack of fundamental spiritual-growth-centered teachings (and just not enough Word-time reading and studying). Thus there now coexists two natures in the soul of the believer, the old man and the new man; and through these both God’s school of godliness is taught, by which those reborn will all “be conformed to the image of His Son” (Rom 8:29), and thereby “grow up into Him in all things” (Eph 4:15). All believers will pass through the “babe-in-Christ” stage (1Co 3:1), for though Christ is in you at rebirth, He is in not yet “formed in you” (Gal 4:19), that is, “unto a perfect man” (mature-in-Christ Eph 4:13), which concerns our “walk” or lifestyle. Redemption-wise believers are complete in Christ, which the lifestyle will manifest more all the time of what we already are in Christ. As long as we are presently earthly bound we can never be completely free of carnality, which always remains to some degree or another, due to the indwelling of the old man; but this has no effect on our fully redemptive position in Christ, only on our growth in the strength of our faith. “Through faith,” grace came to us, and it is through the strengthening of our faith (only via the studying of Word of God by His Spirit) that we are able to “grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus, the Christ” (2Pe 3:18). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elihoenai Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 208 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 41 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, WordSword said: Note: Lately cannot find an alignment option. God bless! Upon encountering the title of this article one’s first thought might seem negative about it, but with all who become “born again” there is a period of growth that involves learning in the Word of God about the “old man,” which is the sin nature first seen in Adam and Eve, then in the entirety of their progeny—mankind (Rom 5:12-19). Upon rebirth the soul becomes “spiritually minded,” due to the imparting of the Spirit of God and the new nature (new man); and the old man continues to become more obviously identifiable so that we can continue to be taught by it—through the contrast of it with the new man! Thus, it’s our position in Christ that will mature our walk in Christ, as the carnality will be seen to progressively decrease, as our spirituality increases, thereby maturing from a carnal Christian to a spiritual Christian (1Co 3:1); which within the last few generations requires much time due to the multitude of errant Biblical doctrines, resulting (in my opinion) from the lack of fundamental spiritual-growth-centered teachings (and just not enough Word-time reading and studying). Thus there now coexists two natures in the soul of the believer, the old man and the new man; and through these both God’s school of godliness is taught, by which those reborn will all “be conformed to the image of His Son” (Rom 8:29), and thereby “grow up into Him in all things” (Eph 4:15). All believers will pass through the “babe-in-Christ” stage (1Co 3:1), for though Christ is in you at rebirth, He is in not yet “formed in you” (Gal 4:19), that is, “unto a perfect man” (mature-in-Christ Eph 4:13), which concerns our “walk” or lifestyle. Redemption-wise believers are complete in Christ, which the lifestyle will manifest more all the time of what we already are in Christ. As long as we are presently earthly bound we can never be completely free of carnality, which always remains to some degree or another, due to the indwelling of the old man; but this has no effect on our fully redemptive position in Christ, only on our growth in the strength of our faith. “Through faith,” grace came to us, and it is through the strengthening of our faith (only via the studying of Word of God by His Spirit) that we are able to “grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus, the Christ” (2Pe 3:18). It is impossible for Sensual Devils to cease from Sin, neither do they want to. They Fulfill the Lust/Will of the Flesh. He that committeth Sin is of the Devil. Spiritual Warfare! 1 John 3:8 King James Version (KJV) 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Edited April 17, 2019 by Elihoenai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordSword Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 163 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,152 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 639 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2010 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Elihoenai said: It is impossible for Sensual Devils to cease from Sin, neither do they want to. They Fulfill the Lust/Will of the Flesh. He that committeth Sin is of the Devil. Spiritual Warfare! 1 John 3:8 King James Version (KJV) 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. There's more truth to your comment than one might think. If not reborn, the only nature you possess is human nature (old man), which is similar to that of the devil's nature (Jhn 8:44; 8:23). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 17, 2019 Every Christian has three enemies. The world, the flesh and the devil. A Christian needs to ask themselves how they are doing in keeping these three things out of their life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordSword Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 163 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,152 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 639 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2010 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, missmuffet said: Every Christian has three enemies. The world, the flesh and the devil. A Christian needs to ask themselves how they are doing in keeping these three things out of their life. Amen, and when He returns it will be "quickly" (Rev 3:11; 22:7, 12, 20). Blessings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WordSword Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 163 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,152 Content Per Day: 0.24 Reputation: 639 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/07/2010 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, WordSword said: Amen, and this comes by the Spirit's opposition to the enemy (Gal 5:15), and the Father's "work" in us (Phl 2:13). Blessings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderCowboy Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 213 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 303 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/05/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 17, 2019 I tend to agree. Civilization today throws the "carnal" in our faces, further strengthening desires of the flesh. This is merely another ongoing test from God ( the devil plays a major role however ), to separate the wheat from the chaf. How strong are you? This is the question above all. i struggle with life's challenges as all do, in my mind it becomes a matter of will.......God or temptation? Which will it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenyon Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 56 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 48 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/15/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 17, 2019 I think the worlds enfolds the other two so the less secular you can be the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted April 18, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2019 11 hours ago, WordSword said: Amen, and when He returns it will be "quickly" (Rev 3:11; 22:7, 12, 20). Blessings! Oh yes, very quick for the rapture. Although this world will go through 7 years of hell on earth before He returns for the second coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elihoenai Posted April 18, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 208 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 41 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2019 19 hours ago, WordSword said: There's more truth to your comment than one might think. If not reborn, the only nature you possess is human nature (old man), which is similar to that of the devil's nature (Jhn 8:44; 8:23). Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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