existential mabel Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 151 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3,146 Content Per Day: 1.06 Reputation: 2,063 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) When Mary became Queen of England, she worked to bring England back to the Roman Catholic Church. One of her first acts was to arrest Bishop Ridley, Bishop Latimer, and Archbishop Thomas Cranmer When Ridley was asked if he believed the pope was heir to the authority of Peter as the foundation of the Church, he replied that the church was not built on any man but on the truth Peter confessed -- that Christ was the Son of God. Ridley said he could not honor the pope in Rome since the papacy was seeking its own glory, not the glory of God. "Christ made one oblation and sacrifice for the sins of the whole world, and that a perfect sacrifice; neither needeth there to be, nor can there be, any other propitiatory sacrifice." These opinions were deeply offensive to Roman Catholic theologians. https://www.christianity.com/church/church-history/timeline/1501-1600/bishops-ridley-and-latimer-burned-11629990.html Edited April 17, 2019 by existential mabel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortangel Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 839 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 634 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 17, 2019 I think a lot of Christians were perscuated around that time they didn't give up on their faith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted April 18, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,204 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,792 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2019 7 hours ago, existential mabel said: When Mary became Queen of England, she worked to bring England back to the Roman Catholic Church. One of her first acts was to arrest Bishop Ridley, Bishop Latimer, and Archbishop Thomas Cranmer When Ridley was asked if he believed the pope was heir to the authority of Peter as the foundation of the Church, he replied that the church was not built on any man but on the truth Peter confessed -- that Christ was the Son of God. Ridley said he could not honor the pope in Rome since the papacy was seeking its own glory, not the glory of God. "Christ made one oblation and sacrifice for the sins of the whole world, and that a perfect sacrifice; neither needeth there to be, nor can there be, any other propitiatory sacrifice." These opinions were deeply offensive to Roman Catholic theologians. https://www.christianity.com/church/church-history/timeline/1501-1600/bishops-ridley-and-latimer-burned-11629990.html "These opinions were deeply offensive to Roman Catholic theologians." And still are...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted April 18, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,272 Content Per Day: 1.73 Reputation: 1,677 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Online Share Posted April 18, 2019 What needs to be remembered is that many in the 16th century thought that the RC church needed reforming. There problem was they couldn't agree on what to base any reformation. Luther's protest was about abuse's of indulgence's, something most accepted as a fact. That the RC church could not control it's self lead to the reformation and violent attempts to repress it. That biblical based theology is offensive to RC is seen in the declaration's that came out of the council of Trent. Things like 'he who declares salvation is by faith is anathema!' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart allen Posted April 18, 2019 Group: Catholic Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 67 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 17 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/06/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2019 Hi not sure if this'll post on forum yet...i'm a newby dreadful what happened back then but Bloody Mary not only one guilty of savagery Henry VIII murdered many, many (Catholic) Christians simply because they wouldn't acknowledge HIS self appointed/supposed 'right' to rule Church or acclaim his divorce then Elizabeth I took her 'turn' at judicial murder based on denomination time to put ALL that behind us seem to remember Our Lord Jesus suffered at the hands of judicial murderers AND told us to love and forgive, love and forgive, love and forgive... as for doctrinal issues...if we love Jesus, that's all that really matters when we stand before Him He won't quiz us on our theology He will look for the love in our hearts love (and forgive) one another (no exceptions) as I have loved (and forgiven) you love to one and all : ) Pax Christi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted April 18, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,272 Content Per Day: 1.73 Reputation: 1,677 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Online Share Posted April 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, stuart allen said: Hi not sure if this'll post on forum yet...i'm a newby dreadful what happened back then but Bloody Mary not only one guilty of savagery Henry VIII murdered many, many (Catholic) Christians simply because they wouldn't acknowledge HIS self appointed/supposed 'right' to rule Church or acclaim his divorce then Elizabeth I took her 'turn' at judicial murder based on denomination time to put ALL that behind us seem to remember Our Lord Jesus suffered at the hands of judicial murderers Pax Christi Henry VIII is a poor example as he excuted those who rejected his adoption oif vthe position of head of the Church in England, while also exceuting those who taught the Lords prayer in English./ Then they rightly knew that what one believed was very important, literally amatter of life or death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted April 22, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,010 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,206 Content Per Day: 1.79 Reputation: 16,282 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/17/2019 at 1:04 PM, existential mabel said: When Mary became Queen of England, she worked to bring England back to the Roman Catholic Church. One of her first acts was to arrest Bishop Ridley, Bishop Latimer, and Archbishop Thomas Cranmer When Ridley was asked if he believed the pope was heir to the authority of Peter as the foundation of the Church, he replied that the church was not built on any man but on the truth Peter confessed -- that Christ was the Son of God. Ridley said he could not honor the pope in Rome since the papacy was seeking its own glory, not the glory of God. "Christ made one oblation and sacrifice for the sins of the whole world, and that a perfect sacrifice; neither needeth there to be, nor can there be, any other propitiatory sacrifice." These opinions were deeply offensive to Roman Catholic theologians. https://www.christianity.com/church/church-history/timeline/1501-1600/bishops-ridley-and-latimer-burned-11629990.html Thank you for posting the article. Hadn't heard of these wonderful, godly men before. Such a story.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elihoenai Posted April 22, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 208 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 41 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 22, 2019 On 4/17/2019 at 9:04 PM, existential mabel said: When Mary became Queen of England, she worked to bring England back to the Roman Catholic Church. One of her first acts was to arrest Bishop Ridley, Bishop Latimer, and Archbishop Thomas Cranmer When Ridley was asked if he believed the pope was heir to the authority of Peter as the foundation of the Church, he replied that the church was not built on any man but on the truth Peter confessed -- that Christ was the Son of God. Ridley said he could not honor the pope in Rome since the papacy was seeking its own glory, not the glory of God. "Christ made one oblation and sacrifice for the sins of the whole world, and that a perfect sacrifice; neither needeth there to be, nor can there be, any other propitiatory sacrifice." These opinions were deeply offensive to Roman Catholic theologians. https://www.christianity.com/church/church-history/timeline/1501-1600/bishops-ridley-and-latimer-burned-11629990.html Questions to consider for all members on these forums: Is England and United Kingdom Catholic Controlled Dominions? Is Protestantism disguised Catholicism? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/be/Flag_of_England.svg/320px-Flag_of_England.svg.png Flag of England The flag of England is derived from Saint George's Cross (heraldic blazon: Argent, a cross gules). The association of the red cross as an emblem of England can be traced back to the Middle Ages, and it was used as a component in the design of the Union Flag in 1606. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted April 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,272 Content Per Day: 1.73 Reputation: 1,677 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Online Share Posted April 23, 2019 22 hours ago, Elihoenai said: Questions to consider for all members on these forums: Is England and United Kingdom Catholic Controlled Dominions? Is Protestantism disguised Catholicism? As you haven't defined what you think is rc or protestant what sort of answer do you expect? I'm interested to read your responce to my first poost on this tread. The last couple of lines were:- Biblical bassed theology is offencive to catholism as is seen by the council of trents declaration that saving faith is anathema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elihoenai Posted April 23, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 208 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 41 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Who me said: As you haven't defined what you think is rc or protestant what sort of answer do you expect? I'm interested to read your responce to my first poost on this tread. The last couple of lines were:- Biblical bassed theology is offencive to catholism as is seen by the council of trents declaration that saving faith is anathema. We haven't given a Universal definition of what constitutes Roman Catholic or Protestant, as individual readers may have their own definitions. With the quote above we can construct Universal Definitions. If we assume that Roman Catholic opposes the True teachings of Scripture and Protestant is resisting for the True teachings of Scripture, than the Universals are the following: Roman Catholic - anything that Opposes (Devil/Satan) the True teachings of Scripture Protestant - anything resisting for the True teachings of Scripture If you don't know the True teachings of Scripture for yourself, how is it possible to know what is Protestant? Jude 3-4 King James Version (KJV) 3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Edited April 23, 2019 by Elihoenai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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