stuart allen Posted April 23, 2019 Group: Catholic Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 67 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 17 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/06/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 23, 2019 My basic point is this... why is this still supposed to be something worthy of memory and discussion? i wasn't there neither was anyone else reading this there were many and numerous guilty parties involved...may God forgive them all i pray dredging up events, however dreadful, from hundreds of years ago is detrimental to Christian unity today only the foe want us to remain divided a divided witness is a weakened witness does anyone seriously believe Jesus wants THAT??? discord, bitterness, rejection, resentment, animosity, hatred...all of this comes from our enemy choosing to remember past wounds plays straight into the hands of the foe and is especially nonsensical when we weren't even there LOVE (and only love) mercy and FORGIVENESS comes from our God when we stand apart from our brothers and sisters in Christ, in heart or mind, in thought, word or deed whether those family members be Catholic, Orthodox or Protestant (conformist or non-conformist) then we are FAILING failing to love failing to forgive failing to accept (our own family members...Father Gods family members) and that failure to love and forgive is SIN we have torn apart the Body of Christ and CHRIST has felt every tear...all 33,000 of them now... unity is not necessarily uniformity if we cannot unite organizationally/theologically we can UNITE IN LOVE and acceptance and forgiveness of one another it's time to stand together, shoulder to shoulder, hand in hand Catholic/Orthodox/Protestant WITH AND FOR JESUS CHRIST OUR KING THAT IS LOVE dredging up barbarous events from hundreds of years ago has no place in that whatsoever love to one and all Pax Christi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart allen Posted April 27, 2019 Group: Catholic Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 67 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 17 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/06/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 27, 2019 the post about Catholicism/Protestantism/teachings and Scripture prompted this... for anyone... i'm Catholic i believe i am saved by Grace through faith in Jesus Christ there is no other way to be saved no faith, no Grace, no sanctification, no salvation i also believe my Savior requires, indeed He commands, good works from me i believe He sees these as further proof of my love for Him a practical outworking of His Love and Compassion from my heart and He wants me to show love for others partly in this way the Love that He has given me and commanded me to share these works include... feed the hungry give drink to the thirsty clothe the naked shelter the stranger visit the sick visit the prisoner He said so so i do my best enabled always and only by His Grace and Provision to do them in obedience to Him (it's not necessarily any more complicated than that) if i may be so bold... so much for the faith v works controversy...it's really just smoke and nonsense now consider this... faith (the absolute requirement for our salvation) without works is DEAD (James) DEAD...non-existent in Gods sight so for God 'no works' equals 'no faith' He said so...in His Word and the 'goats' on Judgement Day...did none of the above good works, and get condemned (Revelation) saved by works then? NO...we are saved by faith alone (there is no other way, confess Christ or be lost) good works an optional extra after that confession? apparently not...not according to Jesus they're not...they're mandatory...He requires them of us and i believe He takes a mighty dim view of disobedience because those who have chosen not to do them are condemned (Lord have mercy on us all) all who call upon the name of Jesus will be saved (Paul) yes, but also from him... work out your salvation in fear and trembling (Paul) in other words... 'welcome to Gods Family...now live to serve and please Him' and according to Jesus...woe betide us if we don't because clearly we could then find ourselves counted among the goats what are good works? well Jesus gave us the above list and told us to love one another so perhaps we could also say... a simple kindness a gentle gesture a loving smile a kind word a helping hand most especially when given to the poor the things WE ALL DO ANYWAY because we are Christians because we love Jesus and we want to please Him they're good works within our families within our workplaces our towns and cities all these are witnessing for Christ IF people know we are Christian do we wear visible symbols of our faith so that they can know? a Cross? a Crucifix? a Rosary? (yes that too is all about the life of Christ) a JESUS baseball cap? a JESUS t-shirt? clearly visible for all to see wearing those and loving anyone and everyone that also is good works isn't it? for the person who adjudged The Holy Catholic Church to be a servant of satan, leading people into error... we are all repentant sinners we have all made mistakes some of my own have been grievous but you need to be aware that your comments are hugely offensive you need to say sorry to Jesus for that one my friend The Holy Catholic Church is every bit as much His Church as is your own just say sorry, His Love and Mercy are unfathomable, He will forgive you most especially if you have been misguided by others or floundered in confusion and He knows too that your intention is only to be zealous for Him as best you understand that offered in love (i have posted elsewhere regarding the infiltration of 'enemy agents'...homosexuals/paedophiles/freemasons/illuminati into HRCC...trust me we will not be the only one's to suffer so in these times...eg see Holy Lutheran Church of Sweden reported position on LBGTQ 'issues') Pax Christi love to one and all Pax Christi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joulre2abba Posted April 27, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 463 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 175 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/08/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 27, 2019 On 4/17/2019 at 4:04 PM, existential mabel said: When Mary became Queen of England, she worked to bring England back to the Roman Catholic Church. One of her first acts was to arrest Bishop Ridley, Bishop Latimer, and Archbishop Thomas Cranmer When Ridley was asked if he believed the pope was heir to the authority of Peter as the foundation of the Church, he replied that the church was not built on any man but on the truth Peter confessed -- that Christ was the Son of God. Ridley said he could not honor the pope in Rome since the papacy was seeking its own glory, not the glory of God. "Christ made one oblation and sacrifice for the sins of the whole world, and that a perfect sacrifice; neither needeth there to be, nor can there be, any other propitiatory sacrifice." These opinions were deeply offensive to Roman Catholic theologians. https://www.christianity.com/church/church-history/timeline/1501-1600/bishops-ridley-and-latimer-burned-11629990.html An unfortunate part of church history. Jesus had redeemed adherents from the curse of the law, and provided God's grace.. but the Catholic church put all right back into the burden of the law, Catholic laws. And the wages of sins as the Catholic rulership saw it by discounting Catholic law was .. death. They forgot to love the believers, so they walked in darkness as 1 Jn.1:6 says. Thus that era was rightly called the dark ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
existential mabel Posted April 28, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 151 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3,149 Content Per Day: 1.05 Reputation: 2,066 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 4/23/2019 at 12:55 PM, stuart allen said: dredging up barbarous events from hundreds of years ago has no place in that whatsoever love to one and all if we dont know our past then ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
existential mabel Posted April 28, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 151 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 3,149 Content Per Day: 1.05 Reputation: 2,066 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) I have when I have come across various articles have posted them be they catholic or c of e oh and Islum and the newage movement. It all illustrates how mankind can go very awry. It reminds us of this fact. Lets not get lost in the man made traditions. Whatever religion. When the Israelites were in the desert they built a golden calf and God allowed them to follow their desires and hence they were lost for 40 years Edited July 9, 2021 by existential mabel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPassingThru Posted April 28, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,979 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,112 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2019 This is why we remember the martyrdom of our faithful brothers and sisters: Latimer died much more quickly; as the flames quickly rose, Latimer encouraged Ridley, "Be of good comfort, Mr. Ridley, and play the man! We shall this day light such a candle by God's grace, in England, as I trust never shall be put out." The martyrdoms of Ridley, Latimer, and Thomas Cranmer are today commemorated by a Martyrs' monument in Oxford. The faith they once died for can now be freely practiced in the land. Lord bless us and strengthen us as we pick up the torch and follow our Lord! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPassingThru Posted April 28, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,979 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,112 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 4/27/2019 at 4:44 AM, stuart allen said: (i have posted elsewhere regarding the infiltration of 'enemy agents'...homosexuals/paedophiles/freemasons/illuminati into HRCC...trust me we will not be the only one's to suffer so in these times Hi Stuart, I believe from you confession you are my brother in Christ, only our Lord knows the heart, so I'm not judging you in say this. Since you acknowledge the darkness and false teaching, ...may I humbly suggest, in the love of Christ, you nail your list of grievances to the door of your church. Lord bless brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart allen Posted April 30, 2019 Group: Catholic Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 67 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 17 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/06/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 30, 2019 for anyone... Protestant martyrs...(and there were many)...never should have happened Catholic martyrs...(and there were many)...never should have happened who was behind both, urging those responsible on to hatred, cruelty and barbarity? THE FOE that's why we MUST forgive...and forget or we risk playing straight into the hands of the enemy memory is so often a sign of REcrimination and all the rancor that goes with that Who is our ultimate role-model?...Jesus Christ what does He do when He forgives? He forgets so why don't we imitate Him? if we cannot, in our human wretchedness, forget can we not then choose to see such memories ONLY as an opportunity to love and forgive? love and forgive Catholic...love and forgive Protestant Protestant...love and forgive Catholic at least stop dredging them up as an opportunity to bash one another about where is the love in that? remember the past or? the likelihood of Christians literally burning one another alive today is...NIL (please God, surely that is so) if anything, that happens, metaphorically, here on the internet and it shouldn't, lest we DO (in heart, thought and word) repeat the horrific events of the past and where is the love in that? love to one and all Pax Christi for JustPassingThru... hi brother : ) i made no mention at all of any supposed 'false teaching' Catholic teaching is established by The Magisterium of The Holy Catholic Church and has developed over 2000 years of prayerful examination of Holy Scripture and prayerful contemplation am i absolutely convinced it is devoid of HUMAN error? no, i'm not human beings make mistakes but nor do i think it will be far 'off base' either 2000 years of scholarly and prayerful examination would make that unlikely do i think it could ever contain corrupted teaching resulting from darkness? no, not a chance now... of darkness itself...yes, that i did mention but your quote is incomplete i referred also to the infiltration of such darkness into The Holy Lutheran Church of Sweden look at their reported position on LBGTQ 'issues' and see for yourself it comes straight from the pit of hell i think such attack will become increasingly evident in these Last Days here in UK another paedophile priest scandal has just hit the headlines this one in The Holy Church of England as for nailing grievances to doors...clearly i should not be the only one we must ALL be vigilant thank you for your love my brother love is a precious gift every Christian brother and sister is precious to me i love you peace be with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart allen Posted April 30, 2019 Group: Catholic Followers: 0 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 67 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 17 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/06/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 30, 2019 one more point... who do we think continued to produce copies of The Holy Bible in the 'dark ages'? Catholic monks by hand and often at risk of their very lives amid Barbarian persecution SO was the Word of God preserved SO was Light still shone upon the Earth amid darkness Pax Christi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appy Posted April 30, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 23 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,864 Content Per Day: 0.62 Reputation: 2,596 Days Won: 2 Joined: 08/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted April 30, 2019 The issue of and definition of “unity” is very different between the roman catholic church and protestant church. We can all get along and love each other, but that does not mean we have to follow certain behaviors or practices. Not all doctrines and teachings are biblical. There is a lot of doctrines and teachings taught and pushed, that I don't agree with, nor should I. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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