one.opinion Posted July 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.13 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, Abdicate said: Ok, so how do you "interpret" Genesis 9:15 if it was a local flood? It could very easily and consistently be interpreted as a promise from God to never cause a flood of that magnitude again. People can legitimately disagree with you without calling God a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvelloustime Posted July 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 15 Topic Count: 206 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 5,608 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 11,415 Days Won: 33 Joined: 11/26/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 23, 2019 Thank you Jesus! This thread just popped up on my notifications. Last night, a dear loved one was asking me to prove God exists, and mentioned specifically Noah and the flood. I prayed to Jesus, but my mind just went blank and I couldn't think. Then tonight, I see this thread, and also posted on here are two websites that explains Genesis, to help us describe it to people. Amen!!! God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.opinion Posted July 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.13 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Abdicate said: This is a fundamental question: do you believe God. Another easy answer - yes. And I believe He said something different from what you think He said. Although I don't believe it is the case, I admit that I could be wrong. After all, God is the omniscient one, not me. I don't harbor illusions that my understanding is perfect and anyone that disagrees with me is wrong and is calling God a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary8 Posted July 23, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 240 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 200 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/23/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Abdicate said: My words will be the word of God and His promises. 10 minutes ago, Abdicate said: My words will be the word of God and His promises. Amen. The ark came to rest about 12,000 to 16,800 feet above sea level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.opinion Posted July 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.13 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, Mary8 said: The ark came to rest about 12,000 to 16,800 feet above sea level. Any sort of calculation is an inference from what the Bible says - certainly not taken directly from scripture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.opinion Posted July 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.13 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 23, 2019 Good, we are moving past "If you disagree with me, then you are calling God a liar" to "I believe you are wrong because..." The latter indicates Biblical humility, while the former does not. 21 minutes ago, Abdicate said: God said specifically the waters exceeded 15 cubits above the mountains. That can only mean a global flood. Not necessarily - the ancient Hebrew word used to describe the area that would be impacted is eretz, and like many words in ancient Hebrew, it has a variety of possible meanings. It can mean (and frequently does in the OT) a large area, but not the entire planet. A flood covering all of the mountains in a specific area would not require that the entire planet be covered by the flood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted July 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,272 Content Per Day: 1.73 Reputation: 1,677 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, one.opinion said: It could very easily and consistently be interpreted as a promise from God to never cause a flood of that magnitude again. People can legitimately disagree with you without calling God a liar. Yes Genesis 9 contains Gods promise, repeated twice, was never to destroy all life, never to destroy the earth with water. the magnitude of the flood was a global from such a promise is not a local or regional flood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.opinion Posted July 23, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.13 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Abdicate said: You just do not believe the word of God for what it says and it begs the question No. I believe the Word of God says something different from what you think it says. There is a difference between disagreeing with the Word of God and disagreeing with a person that thinks their views are inerrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one.opinion Posted July 24, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,240 Content Per Day: 2.13 Reputation: 1,356 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Abdicate said: Whatever helps you sleep at night. I am touched that you are concerned about the quality of my sleep. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristin Posted July 24, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 875 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 757 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/04/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 24, 2019 On 4/28/2019 at 11:45 AM, BeauJangles said: Some really thoughtful questions, Leyla. And I couldn't begin to answer them. But as a child camping out in the Sierra Mountains, where the largest and alleged oldest trees are, ( Sequoia Redwoods ) I stumbled on a few very tiny clam shell halves. I'm no scientific expert, but this must mean seawater must have reached these levels at one time. And missmuffet is right in saying, if the bible says there was a flood, surely there was one. God bless! Shalom, David/BeauJangles My idea is maybe the world was flat before the flood. The flood caused the mountains. You are correct about shells and sea creature fossils on high mountains and hills and valleys. The evidence is there and documented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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