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Is Salvation obtained only by faith, or by works too?

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On 5/2/2019 at 9:56 AM, Ian_Car said:

Is Salvation obtained only by faith, or by works too?

Shalom Ian,

Thanks for your question and sorry to see it was left unanswered!

As I'm sure you would have seen by now, there are many opinions on this matter.  Some say "Once Saved, Always Saved (OSAS)" and others say "Grace and Obedience". 

Are you still unsure on this matter?  If so, just reply and we can talk it through.

If you do still need to talk about it, could you share with me YOUR PERSONAL understanding of salvation in the Lord Jesus?

Love & Shalom

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On 5/2/2019 at 4:56 AM, Ian_Car said:

Is Salvation obtained only by faith, or by works too?

Faith. Works follow. I can tell how much faith a person has in their brakes by how fast they drive. I can tell a person has faith in a chair because he is sitting in it. 

In fact, if you are doing good works for the purpose of showing yourself worthy, the bible has a name for those works: Dead works.

Salvation is sort of the equivalent of eternal "citizenship" and pretty durable. I compare it to being a citizen of the US. What does it take to lose your US citizenship? Denouncing it. 

You can be in prison for murder, robbery, rape, etc., but you are still a US citizen. Just not particularly upstanding. 

So enjoy your citizenship in the Kingdom of God. Now ACT like a citizen, knowing that it is not what your citizenship depends on, but your simple acting on your desire to please your creator and savior. It's more of a "thank you" for what he has given you than a payment for what he has given you. You don't have enough to come close to paying for it. 

 

And believing that his sacrifice was not payment enough is an insult to his sacrifice.

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Still alive has given a great answer.

 

All I will say is the bible verse Eph 2:8+9

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.

 

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On 5/2/2019 at 3:56 AM, Ian_Car said:

Is Salvation obtained only by faith, or by works too?

Salvation is obtained by only faith.....   but it should always result in works....       works don't save people but saved people do good works...      it just works that way.

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On 5/2/2019 at 1:56 AM, Ian_Car said:

Is Salvation obtained only by faith, or by works too?

Both but not only by works. 

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17 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Both but not only by works.

Sorry Missmuffet but that is a contradictiuon and therefore false.

 

Please reread stayalive excelent reply to this question.

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