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19 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

They forget that while it is true we are saved and kept by grace ,   that men will fail of grace IF THEY HEED NOT the SPIRIT . 

I am so worried for so many Cletus .    I mean utterly worried to the upmost for so many .    

Listen, if you are born again, then you have already "heeded the Spirit".  This is why you listened to the gospel, and trusted Christ.

So, once that happened, you are born again.   Nothing can change this, as God is the author and finisher of your Salvation.

Philippians 1:6.  "God who began your salvation, will Himself be faithful to COMPLETE it".

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3 hours ago, Behold said:

Listen, if you are born again, then you have already "heeded the Spirit".  This is why you listened to the gospel, and trusted Christ.

So, once that happened, you are born again.   Nothing can change this, as God is the author and finisher of your Salvation.

Philippians 1:6.  "God who began your salvation, will Himself be faithful to COMPLETE it".

And nothing can change the truth that if  a man continues not in HIM they will be cast out .

JESUS is the ONLY one who can keep me from falling ,   But if I don't heed HIM and start to heed that flesh ,  THEN I make myself a transgressor .

Aint HIS FAULT .   IT WOULD BE MINE .    HE gives me all I need I am also persuaded HE WILL KEEP ME ,  cause HE also persuades me , CONTINUE IN ME

CONTINUE IN ME ,  Heed not that lustful thought that just popped in your head , or Shut those eyes and don't just look at that half dressed lady .

ONLY we better HEED THE SPIRIT ,  EH .

Most go no true idea of what I speak about .     Better we all also beware the error of the all inclusive wicked ,  lest any man falls from his own steadfastness IN CHRIST .

Beware brethren lest you TOO being led away with the ERROR of the wicked ,  DO FALL .

BUT , the SPIRIT was the one who gave peter what to write and say .   SO today the SPIRIT is the same .  IT WARNS US to go and sin no more

IT WARNS us to warn others too .    It does the unctioning .   YET today all my warnings are seen as legalism ,  all my contant reminders as legalism .

WASNT IT PAULS DAY ,   WASNT in JAMES DAY ,   it wasn't ,  SO HOW COME IT IS TODAY .     Cause many have sat under the wrong men .   

That is why the approach of Go and sin no more has become , OH who can quit it ,  stop being legalistic .  OR let it not be named once , has become the same thing .

Todays mindset and pattern in almost all churches ,  well it truly stinks and is noting but death .   I stand on that too .    This man is in it for the long run

and my LORD SHALL SUPPLY ALL I NEED to continue doing so , both the desire and ability and not a one can stop me .     And I wish only good for them .

I Do want you all to know that ,  its not because I don't love , ITS BECAUSE I DO LOVE  

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4 hours ago, Behold said:

Listen, the bible teaches using 3 literary devices.

1. Literal

2. Symbolic

3. Analogy.


For example, Jesus literally rose from the dead, He literally walked on Water, and He literally ascended back into heaven.   

With analogy or symbolism you get "parables"  like "The Prodigal son".

With symbolism, you get something like....>" a sower went out casting seeds and some fell on...."

The parables have actual meaning.

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3 hours ago, Behold said:

Listen, if you are born again, then you have already "heeded the Spirit".  This is why you listened to the gospel, and trusted Christ.

So, once that happened, you are born again.   Nothing can change this, as God is the author and finisher of your Salvation.

Philippians 1:6.  "God who began your salvation, will Himself be faithful to COMPLETE it".

That IS the BEGINNING of GRACE ,  now continue in HIM ,  HEED HIM not the flesh ,   and be looking diligently lest any man FAILS OF the Grace of GOD .

As I said ,  we better continue IN HIM , HEEDING HIM and not the flesh .

Its why instead of today where those who say Go and sin no more , or let it not be named once ,   Get told OH you legalists stop tryng to earn it .

But the early church knew better .  Even Paul who had preached the gospel to more than all ,  KNEW if he did not keep that body

under subjection TO CHRIST ,  HE TOO would be cast out .    AND I don't want to hear Hermes of men that twist that too .  I done heard it .

PAUL KNEW .    THEY ALL KNEW .      IF one errs ,  BETTER RESTORE HIM ,   Better convert him , SAVE THAT SOUL FROM DEATH .

For if a man knew the true way way of righteousness IN CHRIST , cause lets face it , ONLY IN HIM CAN WE .   And then they return to the pit

and are OVERCOME ,  their latter end is EVEN WORSE man .  EVEN WORSE  ,  it had been better to have never even KNOW HIM , KNOWN the way of rigtheosness

than after knowing it to return back to the hog pen .   You might wanna help BLOOD bought out with that one .     Have you even seen what he says .

OH wait , I forgot it don't matter , none of it does , ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED EH .    MAN folks are in serious trouble .   No sense of urgency

but hey if we can go on in wlilfull sin and return to the hog pen , GUESS THEIR WONT BE NO SENSE of urgency , LIKE the early church , WHO KNEW BETTER HAD .

That is why the sense of urgency , gravity , fast to correct , IS GONE TODAY .  swept away by acronyms ,   WHEN it should have remained IN and BY CHRIST . 

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:horse:    okay .  HI HO SILVER I am out .    Remember I only say as I say because I do LOVE and desire NONE to perish .   REMEMBER THAT .  

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1 minute ago, Firm Foundation said:

The parables have actual meaning.

Amen. You are correct. There is deep Truth contained in each one, mysteries of the Kingdom of God. 

But remember, many, in fact most, will not understand the parables. 
Jesus said to His closest disciples, those who had forsaken all to follow Him - 

“To you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God; but to those who are outside, all things come in parables, 12 so that
‘Seeing they may see and not perceive,
And hearing they may hear and not understand;
Lest they should turn,
And their sins be forgiven them.’ ”

- Mark 4:11-12

Another verse that just came to mind -

“As it is written:  
“Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”

10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 16 For “who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.”
- 1Cor 2:9-16

Most fail to read past verse 9, and so we’ve come up with grandiose tales of what we think Heaven will be like, when we have no Scripture to back it up, or even a single verse to tell us that it’s our eternal home.
Verse 10 tells the diligent saints – “But God HAS revealed them to us through His Spirit”, and verse 16 tells us “we HAVE the mind of Christ.”  Yet we so often cannot see or perceive His Word.

In one of my favorite of all verses in the Psalms we have an answer -

“It is the glory of God to conceal a thing,
but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.”

- Prov 25:2

And God has called some to be kings, that royal priesthood who will serve Him, sit with the Lamb on His Throne, and minister Life to the saved nations in His Kingdom.
May we be among those who are searching for Truth, seeking God’s face, and following Jesus.

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