Tzephanyahu Posted May 14, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,625 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2,033 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/10/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Still Alive said: Your number two is a rule I've had in place since 1997. I articulate it thusly: Every time you post something on the internet, assume that the one person in the world that wants to do you the most harm will read it. And they will use it in any way possible to harm or discredit you. It's served me very well. A great way to approach posting on the internet because there is a real potential of such things happening. But even worse, imagine your own posts being read before you on Judgement Day. A sobering thought... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted May 14, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.34 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, OneLight said: Christian sites have always had those who come in to challenge the beliefs of the members. That is expected, and even welcomed. How else will they hear the truth? Some are trolls, but others are not. But, I think you are talking more about the members who are Christians that continue to battle with each other. It seems that more and more people have studied the scriptures and developed their own theology, which is normal and can be a really good step forward. What is not an act of maturity in Christ is when they close and lock their theology and will not consider that they may be wrong, often degrading a question posted to them into a heated debate that includes name calling, insulting and even questioning someone's salvation. That is an act of pride and arrogance, not one where people reason together. I would suggest when a conversation begins down a negative path, speak the truth and then turn away. An argument needs two sides. If one walks away, the argument stops. If you do decide to do the mature thing and realize that the discussion is going nowhere and leave, don't be drawn back in when someone posts something negative to you last post, usually coming in a way of trying to have the last word in proving how wrong your words are. Let them stand on their own merit. If they are the truth, others will see it. Never have a closed mind, as if you hold the truth and if anyone disagrees with you, they are wrong. Everyone is in a different place in Christ, some just beginning, usually very zealous, and others more mature, usually calmer and more reserved. Yet, even Paul tells us that we see through a glass darkly, or in a mirror dimly. Nobody on any site holds the truth 100% of the time. I also see it this way: The internet is doing to Christianity something similar to what the invention of the printing press did: Giving us a form of reformation. Case in point: Now that people can freely study, discuss and debate the ECT vs CI issue, ECT is in real trouble and CI is growing at an amazing pace. When people are free to discuss, the truth percolates to the top. But it also causes a lot of debate and downright consternation with those that refuse to budge or even really debate - kinda like the Pharasees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted May 14, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 949 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,522 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 9,025 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted May 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Tzephanyahu said: At the moment I'm not recommending this forum to anyone. You and the Pope eh? Personally, I love Worthy Christian Forums! It leads me into Bible study each day. It leads me into prayer for various saints and visitors and enemies of our Lord and savior each day. It leads me into praise of God each day. It leads me into joy and into encouragement and appreciation of fellowship with born again believers from cultures so different from my own, and to the humor of others. May God continue to bless the ministry Worthy Christian Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzephanyahu Posted May 14, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,625 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2,033 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/10/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Neighbor said: May God continue to bless the ministry Worthy Christian Forums. Amen and amen. My plight is not against WCF itself. Unfortunately, you've misunderstood my posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted May 14, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.24 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted May 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, Still Alive said: I also see it this way: The internet is doing to Christianity something similar to what the invention of the printing press did: Giving us a form of reformation. Case in point: Now that people can freely study, discuss and debate the ECT vs CI issue, ECT is in real trouble and CI is growing at an amazing pace. When people are free to discuss, the truth percolates to the top. But it also causes a lot of debate and downright consternation with those that refuse to budge or even really debate - kinda like the Pharasees. I am not good with acronyms. Can you spell out ECT and CI for me so I can follow? I blame it on age! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted May 14, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 949 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,522 Content Per Day: 5.02 Reputation: 9,025 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Hi again, Just an additional thought: If a thread seems to be a set up for an argument one does not wish to engage in nor see anymore, use the nifty feature Ignore this Thread. And if one does not wish to be reading a particular poster's essays and comments just use Ignore Poster with all it's options. I use ignore this thread often just to thin out what I no longer can gain much from. And I do use ignore This Poster as well. One can always turn the features back off at any time or peek in on a thread or a posters response should the desire overcome. Seems to me reading posts that one does not like because they contain views different from one's own is silly. Just stop reading them. Just as I am now doing on this one, and putting it on ignore, before it becomes like reading vain argument. May God bless all with a happy heart today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted May 14, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,036 Content Per Day: 7.97 Reputation: 21,377 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, OneLight said: Christian sites have always had those who come in to challenge the beliefs of the members. That is expected, and even welcomed. How else will they hear the truth? Some are trolls, but others are not. But, I think you are talking more about the members who are Christians that continue to battle with each other. It seems that more and more people have studied the scriptures and developed their own theology, which is normal and can be a really good step forward. What is not an act of maturity in Christ is when they close and lock their theology and will not consider that they may be wrong, often degrading a question posted to them into a heated debate that includes name calling, insulting and even questioning someone's salvation. That is an act of pride and arrogance, not one where people reason together. I would suggest when a conversation begins down a negative path, speak the truth and then turn away. An argument needs two sides. If one walks away, the argument stops. If you do decide to do the mature thing and realize that the discussion is going nowhere and leave, don't be drawn back in when someone posts something negative to you last post, usually coming in a way of trying to have the last word in proving how wrong your words are. Let them stand on their own merit. If they are the truth, others will see it. Never have a closed mind, as if you hold the truth and if anyone disagrees with you, they are wrong. Everyone is in a different place in Christ, some just beginning, usually very zealous, and others more mature, usually calmer and more reserved. Yet, even Paul tells us that we see through a glass darkly, or in a mirror dimly. Nobody on any site holds the truth 100% of the time. yes and this as well 1 Cor 8:1-3 8 Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth. 2 And if any man think that he knoweth anything, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know. 3 But if any man love God, the same is known of him. KJV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzephanyahu Posted May 14, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,625 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2,033 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/10/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Neighbor said: Seems to me reading posts that one does not like because they contain views different from one's own is silly. I think you are misunderstanding Neighbor, but that's okay. What I mean is how it appears as a witness to new joiners or new believers. Such posts also pull peaceful brothers and sisters into it, with provocative comments, and then those who are in need in the forum get less time and attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted May 14, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,024 Content Per Day: 1.34 Reputation: 1,224 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted May 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, OneLight said: I am not good with acronyms. Can you spell out ECT and CI for me so I can follow? I blame it on age! LOL Sure ECT - Eternal Conscious Torment CI - Conditional Immortality i.e. only the saved have eternal life. The lost are annihilated. It's covered in more detail here: http://www.jewishnotgreek.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted May 14, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.24 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted May 14, 2019 41 minutes ago, Still Alive said: Sure ECT - Eternal Conscious Torment CI - Conditional Immortality i.e. only the saved have eternal life. The lost are annihilated. It's covered in more detail here: http://www.jewishnotgreek.com/ Thank you for explaining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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