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I have been harrassed on other "Christian" websites for sharing my understanding of the Trinity, but I'll share it again here:

I believe the Trinity is the Lord serving us in three different ways. He is a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

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On 5/19/2019 at 7:34 AM, Behold said:

Yes, Jesus is the Holy Spirit.   Let me explain.   All the Born Again have "Christ in YOU, the Hope of Heaven"......."if you have not the Spirit of Christ, then you don't belong to God" .  Romans 8:9

Follow me so far?

Now, where is Jesus?    WHERE IS JESUS?     Isn't He ascended back into Heaven?   Does He not have a MANS's BODY?   Is He not coming again, to reign in Israel?   And He is the same One who came out of the TOMB, risen, and now is in Heaven, in the MAN's BODY....... So, how can Jesus, in a man's body, be in the born again?    So, you have to think..   Its obvious that if Jesus is in Heaven as a MAN in a Man's BODY, "making intercession" (Advocate) 1 John 2:1.   and yet "Christ is IN YOU".....then how can Jesus the Man, be CHRIST IN EVERY born again person".

Well, its the "Spirit of Christ".........and what is the SPIRIT OF CHRIST?    ITS THE HOLY SPIRIT. !   SO, JESUS IS the Holy Spirit, and He is also the COMFORTER.  as this is the Spirit of Christ = ALSO.

Obviously.

 

 

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I am not disagreeing here with you, I just prefer to break it down completely:

 

 

Like I mentioned from Genesis 6:3 "And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man..."

The Holy Spirit is the personal Spirit (like we have our own personal spirit) of Elohim, which is Yeshua  (Yeshua [I AM] told Moses that He was ELOHIM).

So technically the Holy Spirit is not Yeshua, but it is His personal Spirit.

 

In a roundabout way, you are on the right path concerning Yeshua and the Holy Spirit.   You just don't break it completely down to the Holy Spirit being the personal Spirit of Yeshua, WHO IS [both I AM & ELOHIM + Yahweh]!!   

In John 14:

8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast [[thou not known me]], Philip? he that (([[hath seen me hath seen the Father]])); and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

 

Technically, you are absolutely correct, that if the Holy Spirit is the personal Spirit of Yeshua...and the Holy Spirit lives inside of us, then Yeshua lives inside of us!!

 

 

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John 10:30 I and the Father are one

Isaiah 48: 16 – 17 "Come near me and listen to this: "From the first announcement I have not spoken in secret; at the time it happens, I am there." And now the Sovereign LORD has sent me, endowed with his Spirit. This is what the LORD says-- your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: "I am the LORD your God, who teaches you what is best for you, who directs you in the way you should go.

Matthew 3;16 - 17 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."

Matthew 28: 18-19 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

John 14:24-26 These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me. All this I have spoken while still with you. But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

Hebrews 1: 1-3 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

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Gen. 1:26, "Then God said, 'Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness

Gen. 11:7, "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language

Psalm 45:6-7, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your kingdom. 7 You havet loved righteousness, and hated wickedness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You."

Isaiah 48:16, "Come near to Me God, listen to this: From the first I have not spoken in secret. From the time it took place, I was there. And now the Lord God has sent Me, and His Spirit.

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Isaiah explains it the best:

 

5For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser (Holy Spirit), the mighty God (Elohim / I AM), the everlasting Father (the Father), called his name, "the prince of peace (the Son)."

 

 

All 3 manifestations in ONE BODY = the ANOINTED, or the MESSIAH

 

 

  הכִּי־יֶ֣לֶד יֻלַּד־לָ֗נוּ בֵּן נִתַּן־לָ֔נוּ וַתְּהִ֥י הַמִּשְׂרָ֖ה עַל־שִׁכְמ֑וֹ וַיִּקְרָ֨א שְׁמ֜וֹ פֶּ֠לֶא יוֹעֵץ֙ אֵ֣ל גִּבּ֔וֹר אֲבִי־עַ֖ד שַׂר־שָׁלֽוֹם:

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19 minutes ago, appy said:

John 10:30 I and the Father are one

Isaiah 48: 16 – 17 "Come near me and listen to this: "From the first announcement I have not spoken in secret; at the time it happens, I am there." And now the Sovereign LORD has sent me, endowed with his Spirit. This is what the LORD says-- your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: "I am the LORD your God, who teaches you what is best for you, who directs you in the way you should go.

Matthew 3;16 - 17 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."

Matthew 28: 18-19 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

John 14:24-26 These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me. All this I have spoken while still with you. But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

Hebrews 1: 1-3 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

I've debunked these already if you read my posts ^

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6 minutes ago, appy said:

Gen. 1:26, "Then God said, 'Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness

Gen. 11:7, "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language

Psalm 45:6-7, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your kingdom. 7 You havet loved righteousness, and hated wickedness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You."

Isaiah 48:16, "Come near to Me God, listen to this: From the first I have not spoken in secret. From the time it took place, I was there. And now the Lord God has sent Me, and His Spirit.

I've debunked these already if you read my posts ^

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Psalms 45:

8 You loved righteousness and you hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, anointed you with oil of joy from among your peers. 

חאָהַ֣בְתָּ צֶּדֶק֘ וַתִּשְׂנָא־רֶ֗שַׁע עַל־כֵּ֚ן | מְשָֽׁחֲךָ֡ אֱלֹהִ֣ים אֱ֖לֹהֶיךָ שֶׁ֥מֶן שָׂשׂ֗וֹן מֵֽחֲבֵרֶֽךָ:

 

 

I love this verse from David!!

 

The entire Chapter 45 is a prayer:

 

I love how David emphasizes this prayer in verse 8 with "Therefore God" (([[and then to the READER of this prayer so ((they)) will know WHOM this God David speaks of is actually]])) YOUR GOD (their/the Reader's God)!!

 

So in simple terms, David says His God is also YOUR/OUR God!!

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Gen. 1:26, "Then God said, 'Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness

Gen. 11:7, "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language

 

Since we know Elohim in the Hebrew Language and in the Biblical sense is ALWAYS ONE/SINGULAR, we know that God always goes to His Divine Council before making decisions:

 

Earlier in this thread I provide a chapter showing God speaking to His Divine Council and them speaking back to God before God made a decision pertaining to mankind.

 

And we know Angels had children with human women so they (Angels) and God have the same LIKENESS to us humans.

Species can only reproduce with LIKE species!!

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God's Divine Council

Tehillim - Psalms - Chapter 82

1 A song of Asaph. God stands in the congregation of God; in the midst of the judges He will judge.  (The Courtroom of God)

אמִזְמ֗וֹר לְאָ֫סָ֥ף אֱלֹהִ֗ים נִצָּ֥ב בַּֽעֲדַת־אֵ֑ל בְּקֶ֖רֶב אֱלֹהִ֣ים יִשְׁפֹּֽט:

 

But WHO are these judges that God stands in the midst of?

 

verse 6 enlightens us:

6 I said, "You are angelic creatures, and all of you are angels of the Most High." 

ואֲֽנִ֣י אָ֖מַרְתִּי אֱלֹהִ֣ים אַתֶּ֑ם וּבְנֵ֖י עֶלְי֣וֹן כֻּלְּכֶֽם:

 

Now look at all 6 verses together:

1 A song of Asaph. God stands in the congregation of God; in the midst of the judges He will judge. 

אמִזְמ֗וֹר לְאָ֫סָ֥ף אֱלֹהִ֗ים נִצָּ֥ב בַּֽעֲדַת־אֵ֑ל בְּקֶ֖רֶב אֱלֹהִ֣ים יִשְׁפֹּֽט:

2 How long will you judge unjustly and favor the wicked forever? 

בעַד־מָתַ֣י תִּשְׁפְּטוּ־עָ֑וֶל וּפְנֵ֥י רְ֜שָׁעִ֗ים תִּשְׂאוּ־סֶֽלָה:

3 Judge the poor and orphan; justify the humble and the impoverished. 

גשִׁפְטוּ־דָ֥ל וְיָת֑וֹם עָנִ֖י וָרָ֣שׁ הַצְדִּֽיקוּ:

4 Release the poor and the needy; save [them] from the hands of [the] wicked. 

דפַּלְּטוּ־דַ֣ל וְאֶבְי֑וֹן מִיַּ֖ד רְשָׁעִ֣ים הַצִּֽילוּ:

5 They did not know and they do not understand [that] they will walk in darkness; all the foundations of the earth will totter. 

הלֹ֚א יָֽדְע֨וּ | וְלֹ֬א יָבִ֗ינוּ בַּֽחֲשֵׁכָ֥ה יִתְהַלָּ֑כוּ יִ֜מּ֗וֹטוּ כָּל־מ֥וֹסְדֵי אָֽרֶץ:

6 I said, "You are angelic creatures, and all of you are angels of the Most High." 

ואֲֽנִ֣י אָ֖מַרְתִּי אֱלֹהִ֣ים אַתֶּ֑ם וּבְנֵ֖י עֶלְי֣וֹן כֻּלְּכֶֽם:

 

^God and His Angelic Host are having a conversation here.   The Angelic host are even making excuses for mankind (verse 5).   God actually goes to His Angelic Host and speaks to them and listens to them BEFORE making a decision.   How interesting is that?   And we have scripture to prove, "that God has a Divine Heavenly Council He speaks to and listens to before making decisions!!"

 

Names of the Council

The gatherings of God’s servants have several titles:

(“mount of assembly” — Isa 14:13); (“camp of God” — Gen 32:2); (“company” [of destroying angels] — Ps 78:49);  (“council of God” — Job 15:8, 29:4);  (“council of YHVH” — Jer 23:18, 22); (“council of holy ones” — Ps 89:7); (“congregation of God”— Ps 82:1);  (“assembly of holy ones” — Ps 89:6).

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