douge Posted May 17, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 354 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 964 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 181 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/14/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted May 17, 2019 The church, the body of Christ, in this dispensation has not been given the new testament. If that would be the case, then we need to examine what the new testament is and how that would affect our understanding of what the church has in Christ. Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. This is the new coveanant which God made with the house of Israel, not with the church, the body of Christ. Ezekiel 36:24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. The body of Christ was not promised a land. 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. If the church is in the new testament, then we are declared to be unclean. The church, however has been cleansed in Christ (Ephesians 5:26). 36:28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God. The church does not have any fathers and we don't have any land. The church has a position in the heavenly places; being placed in the covenant would rob us of our spiritual blessings (Ephesians 1:3). Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; The times of refreshing is the coming of the Lord. Israel is waiting for their salvation when Christ comes. Saying that the church is under the new testament denies that the church has forgiveness in Christ now (Ephesians 1:7). 1 Peter 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. Israel's salvation is future and putting the church in the covenant would rob us of the power of God for our salvation which we now have (Romans 1:16). Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Jesus says it is the "covenant unto them", which is Israel and not the church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael (limmuwd) Posted May 18, 2019 Group: Non-Trinitarian Followers: 3 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 160 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 191 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/09/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 18, 2019 There is ONE Church, ONE Elect of God. Without the NT AND the Old, we do not exist. There is ZERO covenants made with Gentiles or "Christians." We enter only into the New Covenant - which was made ONLY with the house of Israel and the house of Judah - through the Messiah, who is the Lion of the tribe of Judah, as we partake of His substance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted May 20, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,272 Content Per Day: 1.73 Reputation: 1,677 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2019 There is only one way anyone can be saved. Just because someone is a Jew that does not qualify them for salvation. They have to accept Jesus as their saviour, which makes them a Christian. Or are you promoting salvation by works along side salvation through faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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